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American Drug War

Murk - 5-11-2008 at 10:50 PM

http://www.americandrugwar.com/

i saw this last night.

very good documentary.

the name says it all.

it's on Showtime and available through Netflix.

BDx13 - 5-11-2008 at 11:54 PM

i tried to watch that, but it seemed to ramble on.
maybe it was just the narrator's voice that bugged me.
either way, i couldn't finish it.

Murk - 5-12-2008 at 12:18 AM

yeah, the dude's voice isn't the greatest.

Voodoobillyman - 5-14-2008 at 12:58 AM

I may end up down south pretty soon as the Navy has just stood up 4th fleet (Southern Command) and is about to step up it's drug interdiction operations in the Caribbean. More boardings and the chance to stop the flow of poison into our country, count me in! Fuck Drugs

Murk - 5-14-2008 at 04:12 PM

poison?

sorry, but when it comes to people dying in this country, illicit drugs don't even make the top ten.

Tobacco 435,000
Poor Diet and Physical Inactivity 365,000
Alcohol 85,000
Microbial Agents 75,000
Toxic Agents 55,000
Motor Vehicle Crashes 26,347
Adverse Reactions to Prescription Drugs 32,000
Suicide 30,622
Incidents Involving Firearms 29,000
Homicide 20,308
Sexual Behaviors 20,000
All Illicit Drug Use, Direct and Indirect 17,000
Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs Such As Aspirin 7,600
Marijuana 0

Journal of the American Medical Association, March 10, 2004,

http://www.csdp.org/research/1238.pdf

Siczine.com - 5-14-2008 at 06:02 PM

I saw an awesome documentary on Showtime called "In We Pot We Trust"...very good.

I will be checking this out tonight.

barc0debaby - 5-14-2008 at 08:28 PM

There are seriously way bigger problems then drugs. Its all about money, weather its lining the criminals pockets or the establishments (criminals in their own right). You can be damn sure once my service time is over I'll be promoting the cause of marijuana legalization and reform of drug laws in this country.


Excellent read on the errors of Americas drug policy

upyerbum - 5-14-2008 at 08:42 PM

Adverse Reactions to Prescription Drugs 32,000

I'm guessing that number should be much higher. With the number of people on behaviour modifying drugs, what qualifies as an adverse reaction? I'm thinking a large percentage of those suicides and homicides could qualify as "adverse" reactions.

Voodoobillyman - 5-15-2008 at 01:19 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Murk
poison?

sorry, but when it comes to people dying in this country, illicit drugs don't even make the top ten.

Tobacco 435,000
Poor Diet and Physical Inactivity 365,000
Alcohol 85,000
Microbial Agents 75,000
Toxic Agents 55,000
Motor Vehicle Crashes 26,347
Adverse Reactions to Prescription Drugs 32,000
Suicide 30,622
Incidents Involving Firearms 29,000
Homicide 20,308
Sexual Behaviors 20,000
All Illicit Drug Use, Direct and Indirect 17,000
Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs Such As Aspirin 7,600
Marijuana 0

Journal of the American Medical Association, March 10, 2004,

http://www.csdp.org/research/1238.pdf


Yup, poison. Your stats mean nothing to me bro. I have seen countless times first hand the effect drugs can have on an individual and their loved ones. If I can stop any of it from getting in, I will happily do so. Just the way I think, oh and if you smoke butts, your just a fucking moron. Everyone knows that, even smokers.

Voodoobillyman - 5-15-2008 at 01:20 AM

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Originally posted by barc0debaby
There are seriously way bigger problems then drugs. Its all about money, weather its lining the criminals pockets or the establishments (criminals in their own right). You can be damn sure once my service time is over I'll be promoting the cause of marijuana legalization and reform of drug laws in this country.


Excellent read on the errors of Americas drug policy


Yer a hippy;)

mattybar - 5-15-2008 at 06:19 AM

american drug war

good name for a band

upyerbum - 5-15-2008 at 06:46 AM

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Originally posted by Voodoobillyman
and if you smoke butts, your just a fucking moron. Everyone knows that, even smokers.


We'll see who the morons are when the aliens gas the atmosphere.

Murk - 5-15-2008 at 03:47 PM

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Originally posted by Voodoobillyman
Your stats mean nothing to me bro.

i hear ya. for some reason the biggest drug war advocates rarely care about stats and facts.
Quote:
Originally posted by Voodoobillyman
I have seen countless times first hand the effect drugs can have on an individual and their loved ones.

i have also seen, first hand, my uncle die from a prescription medication assigned to him by a doctor and purchased from WalMart.

i say if drugs are really such a huge problem get rid of them all, including the ones advertised on TV, day and night, not just the ones that are cool to be against.

Siczine.com - 5-15-2008 at 04:13 PM

All I know is anyone that thinks marijuana is worse than tobacco and alochol is a fucking moron.

barc0debaby - 5-15-2008 at 04:31 PM

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Originally posted by Voodoobillyman
Quote:
Originally posted by barc0debaby
There are seriously way bigger problems then drugs. Its all about money, weather its lining the criminals pockets or the establishments (criminals in their own right). You can be damn sure once my service time is over I'll be promoting the cause of marijuana legalization and reform of drug laws in this country.


Excellent read on the errors of Americas drug policy


Yer a hippy;)

Haha yes I am....its a real moral dilemma at work sometimes...but I can deal.

Voodoobillyman - 5-16-2008 at 03:44 AM

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Originally posted by Murk
Quote:
Originally posted by Voodoobillyman
Your stats mean nothing to me bro.

i hear ya. for some reason the biggest drug war advocates rarely care about stats and facts.
Quote:
Originally posted by Voodoobillyman
I have seen countless times first hand the effect drugs can have on an individual and their loved ones.

i have also seen, first hand, my uncle die from a prescription medication assigned to him by a doctor and purchased from WalMart.

i say if drugs are really such a huge problem get rid of them all, including the ones advertised on TV, day and night, not just the ones that are cool to be against.



The biggest drug war advocates mean nothing to me either, I don't share their greedy twisted motives. I have my own.

I am sorry to hear about your uncle, that is a tragedy in itself and I couldn't agree more about the "legal" drugs constantly advertised. It still does nothing to change my personal opinion on illicit drugs.

Barnesey - 5-23-2008 at 02:10 PM

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=american+drug+war&site...

Here's the whole enchilada. Drugs are drugs. No matter if they're legal or not. If the government can deal them, why can't we? I have no problem with recreational use unless you're hindering another's liberty. We can go through all the horror stories, but the fact is that the government is the one funnelling them into our country. It's good to be aware of what is happening but once you speak up and call this government on their shit, you'll end up like Gary Webb.