Rap music has had its influence on hardcore and punk rock for a

XHonusWagnerX - 6-13-2008 at 10:58 PM

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Rap music has had its influence on hardcore and punk rock for a long time. Bands like Youth Brigade, 7 Seconds and Youth Of Today have "rap" parts in their songs, going all the way back to the early '80s. But some people from the hardcore/punk scene have actually recorded and/or released rap records or ended up in some notable rap rock bands. Here are a few we came up with:

Ken Olden from Battery/Damnation A.D. and Issa from Good Clean Fun released a rap CD under the moniker Fort Knox.

Isaac Golub from A Chorus Of Disapproval put out a rap/rock demo while in the short-lived band CoIntelPro.

Rob Seeman from Naked Angels recorded under the name Rob R Rock, most notably having a track on the Voice Of The Voiceless compilation on Smorgasbord Records, as well as some of his own releases.

Zack De La Rocha from SoCal HC legends Hard Stance/Inside Out, of course, ended up in Rage Against The Machine.

Mike Hartsfield from Outspoken, Chris Lohman from Blackspot and Evan Jacobs from Ice layed down some tracks as the tounge-in-cheek rappers The Sinister Syndicate.

XEdgeX With Dreads recently put out a solo rap CD but was
formerly in such bands as Sentient, Vegan Reich, Burn It Down, Tears Of Gaia and Seven Generations.

Rey Oropeza from So Cal's late '80s straight-edge band Social Justice went on to front rap rock band Downset while Rogelio Lozano, Social Justice's guitarist, later played guitar for Cypress Hill.

And, last but not least, the Beastie Boys started out as a
hardcore/punk band releasing a 7" on Rat Cage Records, the same label that originally released Agnostic Front's "Victim In Pain" before they made history as a rap group.

clevohardcore - 6-13-2008 at 11:34 PM

don't forget the newer bands err maybe we should just forget them.

FNSRecords - 6-13-2008 at 11:37 PM

Thats all cool and everything, but does that answer why "hardcore kids" wear track suits and collect sneakers?

XHonusWagnerX - 6-14-2008 at 07:26 AM

kind of odd how he completly left out DANNY DIABLOW :rolleyes:

clevohardcore - 6-14-2008 at 09:22 AM

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Originally posted by XHonusWagnerX
kind of odd how he completly left out DANNY DIABLOW :rolleyes:

^^^^^^^^^^ Thats what I ment in my last post. Newer stuff wasn't included.

DaveMoral - 6-14-2008 at 11:22 AM

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XEdgeX With Dreads recently put out a solo rap CD but was
formerly in such bands as Sentient, Vegan Reich, Burn It Down, Tears Of Gaia and Seven Generations.

I don't know why this dude claims to have been in Vegan Reich. He wasn't. He auditioned, but was never in the band. Never played a show and didn't record. He's a nice dude, I remember he from when he was in Burn It Down... but he was never in Vegan Reich.

MikeCore - 6-15-2008 at 05:40 PM

'Crossover Sucks'

Siczine.com - 6-15-2008 at 07:32 PM

The only thing worth mentioning in that was the Beastie Boys but thats common knowledge IMO.

And this part was stupid,
Zack De La Rocha from SoCal HC legends Hard Stance/Inside Out, of course, ended up in Rage Against The Machine.

Yeah I get it RATM were one of "pioneers" of raprock or whatever the fuck you want to call it.

XHonusWagnerX - 6-15-2008 at 10:46 PM

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Yeah I get it RATM were one of "pioneers" of raprock or whatever the fuck you want to call it.

I hate that people say/think that. There was LOTS of stuff like that WAY before RATM.

ANTHRAX
HELMET/HOUSE OF PAIN

I think the first BIOHAZARD record was before the RATM lp too.

JawnDiablo - 6-16-2008 at 09:30 AM

I think Zack De La Cock is a turd.
fuck him

gavin - 6-16-2008 at 09:34 AM

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I think Zack De La Cock is a turd.
fuck him

Discipline - 6-16-2008 at 11:21 AM

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I think Zack De La Cock is a turd.
fuck him

newbreedbrian - 6-16-2008 at 04:00 PM

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I think Zack De La Cock is a turd.
fuck him

upyerbum - 6-16-2008 at 08:48 PM

Rap has never influenced punk. If anything, its the other way around, and if you push it far enough back it was the Jamaicans, so fuck that. Aside from a brief a period of collaboration, which didn't work, I might add.

"Don't buy their records, cuz they won't buy yours." - Roger Miret

And I am completely prepared to put my hands over my ears and hum "Rule Brittania" if anyone chooses to argue.

upyerbum - 6-16-2008 at 08:50 PM

And all those dudes who make rap albums, its called "cashing in". (or selling out)

Siczine.com - 6-16-2008 at 09:43 PM

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Originally posted by Siczine.com

Yeah I get it RATM were one of "pioneers" of raprock or whatever the fuck you want to call it.

I hate that people say/think that. There was LOTS of stuff like that WAY before RATM.

ANTHRAX
HELMET/HOUSE OF PAIN

I think the first BIOHAZARD record was before the RATM lp too.

Same here.

clevohardcore - 6-16-2008 at 10:13 PM

ANTHRAX and PUBLIC ENEMY. Bring the noise was on constant rotation on MTV back in 89-90.

I know ANTHRAX isn't "hardcore" but they do have several connections to it. If its legit or not well you be the judge.

ICE T w/ bodycount. 90 or 91. I saw them at lollapalooza that year and ROLLINS was hyping him up before ice t played.

XHonusWagnerX - 6-20-2008 at 09:11 PM

PART II

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Following up on our fun fact last week about hardcore/punk
related people recording rap music, here are a few more that
people sent in (thanks):

Lord Ezec of Crown of Thornz, Skarhead and Icepick raps under
the moniker of "Danny Diablo." Mark Salomon, lead man of
Christian punk/thrash band The Crucified, Outer Circle
andÊStavesacre did a rap project in the early '90s called XL and
DBD. Freddy Madball has a project with DJ Stress called "Freddy
Madball and DJ Stress." Mad Joe and Richie Krutch of Krutch, Out
To Win, and Wisdom In Chains have a rap/rock band called
Boxcutter. And finally, Dee Dee Ramone, one of the godfathers of
punk rock, recorded the rap/rock Dee Dee King "Standing In The
Spotlight" album in 1989. For some extra "fun" (as in funny),
check out the Dee Dee King cover here:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3172/2468278823_ae95893694.jp...

upyerbum - 6-20-2008 at 10:03 PM

Rule Brittania! Brittania rule the waves!!

Siczine.com - 6-20-2008 at 10:35 PM

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PART II

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REVHQ FUN FACT
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Following up on our fun fact last week about hardcore/punk
related people recording rap music, here are a few more that
people sent in (thanks):

Lord Ezec of Crown of Thornz, Skarhead and Icepick raps under
the moniker of "Danny Diablo." Mark Salomon, lead man of
Christian punk/thrash band The Crucified, Outer Circle
andÊStavesacre did a rap project in the early '90s called XL and
DBD. Freddy Madball has a project with DJ Stress called "Freddy
Madball and DJ Stress." Mad Joe and Richie Krutch of Krutch, Out
To Win, and Wisdom In Chains have a rap/rock band called
Boxcutter. And finally, Dee Dee Ramone, one of the godfathers of
punk rock, recorded the rap/rock Dee Dee King "Standing In The
Spotlight" album in 1989. For some extra "fun" (as in funny),
check out the Dee Dee King cover here:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3172/2468278823_ae95893694.jp...

DJ Stress is really, really talented. He did work with Reef The Lost Cauze and other local philly acts. His group the Subhoodz includes Mike Miggs who used to play in Punishment and now plays in Nailed Right In. He also has pretty good taste in hardcore/metal.