she is fucking sad and we as a nation are fucked....
white trash idiots love her crap and the stupider she looks the more people are going to vote for her.Discipline - 9-13-2008 at 06:02 PM
She's a fucking idiot.clevohardcore - 9-14-2008 at 01:09 AM
wow. I just spent 1/2 watching those vids.DaveMoral - 9-14-2008 at 01:54 AM
Seriously, I saw her attempted explanation about her "Iraq is God's work" thing... that was the worse refutation of an obvious crusader statement I've
ever seen or heard of. She's got the exact same position as so-called "jihadists!" The only difference is that she'll be a heartbeat away from being
able to nuke the whole world.moron - 9-14-2008 at 10:56 AM
Her answers to the earmark questions reminded me of what the Republicans went after with Kerry's voting record in the last election. The "I was for
the war before I was against it" thing, though Kerry wasn't a trailblazer for the war as it seem Palin was for the "Bridge to Nowhere". I wonder how
long McCain thought out his decision for VP. Doesn't seem like the thought too hard considering a key issue for him, earmarks, is a major weakness in
his running mate. How much of America is really going to care though? I can't help but feel that McCain only chose her because she's a woman, and
that's what people will notice the most and probably make the biggest deal over.BDx13 - 9-14-2008 at 12:49 PM
i think you're right, moron. had obama selected hillary, palin would not have been picked.
and for all the 'obama is a celebrity' rhetoric coming from mccain, that's exactly what they've made palin out to be. couple that with the fact that
there were eight weeks from the time she was picked until the election, and for the first two, she did no interviews. the republicans are hoping that
middle america will stay psyched on palin and not look beyond the glitz right through the election.DaveMoral - 9-14-2008 at 01:40 PM
Yeah... we're screwed.Discipline - 9-14-2008 at 01:43 PM
Dumb as she might be, it will gain him some of the female voters. They can also depend on the votes of people who don't want a black president.JawnDiablo - 9-14-2008 at 03:09 PM
great election.
it's like lets vote for the one we dislike least.clevohardcore - 9-14-2008 at 07:14 PM
Palin is ONLY in because Hillary wasn't.
And the voting on who we disslike least well that has been the case since day one I believe.clevohardcore - 9-14-2008 at 07:15 PM
O and think Gibson school Palin pretty good in this interview. She looked terrible trying to explain away everything she herself was in fact guilty
of.Siczine.com - 9-15-2008 at 05:04 PM
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Originally posted by Discipline
Dumb as she might be, it will gain him some of the female voters. They can also depend on the votes of people who don't want a black president.
And on top of that she gets the GOP the conservative votes.
And this bitch is retarded....a straight up fucking retardSiczine.com - 9-15-2008 at 05:08 PM
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Originally posted by clevohardcore
O and think Gibson school Palin pretty good in this interview. She looked terrible trying to explain away everything she herself was in fact guilty
of.
Tina Fey reminds me of my sophomore english teacher that I had in HS that I crushed on.JawnDiablo - 9-15-2008 at 06:49 PM
Tina Fey may be the only good thing to come out of Upper Darby Pa besides me and Gavin....Mark Lind - 9-16-2008 at 10:39 AM
Maybe I'm foolish but I think Obama is gonna win big.
Something also tells me that the morning after the VP debates there will be chunks of Sarah Palin in Joe Biden's stool.BDx13 - 9-16-2008 at 11:41 AM
^ i think that as well, but these polls that show them in a dead heat keep psyching me out.defstarsteve - 9-16-2008 at 11:54 AM
see I really think obama should win this with his eyes closed...
but he is running against the people who brought you bush, and bush 2...
a man who lost both elections, but still ended up president twice...
if it starts to look like obama is winning they will find a mounatin of dead white children in his basement....
of course they will have palins fingerprints all over them, but McCain will win and we all will lose.
or we'll start shit with russia, and all the pro war nutjobs will crawl out of the woodwork.
republicans are better at this whole game at this point, and will use fear, and hatred to win...
damn sithJason the Magnificent - 9-16-2008 at 12:53 PM
The Obama campaign dropped the ball big time.
They had momentum going into the DNC with this whole campaign of 'change'. No one knew what it really meant, they were just sure that it sounded good
because they were sick of what we already had. It was romantic...people felt like maybe their vote made a difference again.
Then he got the nomination, he announced the VP, people cried and the media was saturated with all things Obama. John McCain didn't stand a snowballs
chance in hell.
Then in one of the most brilliant political moves in years regardless of its motivation the McCain camp announces Palin as the VP...suddenly a RNC
that 3 people were at became Woodstock. The republicans had their own insta celeb.
Now that it's come time to go toe to toe and people want to know what each side stands for the Obama camp panics and goes into defensive stance
instead of offense. They're concentrating more effort on why not to elect McCain/Palin than on why to Elect Obama/Biden. Not only did the Palin
decision let the wind out of Obamas sails, it cut them from the mast.
I wouldn't be suprised at all to see McCain pull through on this one.
Don't be fooled. Palin is not on the ticket to bring gender balance to the White House. Her primary role is to reinforce traditional ideas of
masculinity and femininity.
Observers of contemporary politics, especially those who follow the high drama of presidential campaigns, are plagued by many questions. Most
vexing, perhaps, are those concerned with the role of gender in public life. Why is testosterone the coveted elixir of political power? More
specifically, what anxieties have made the ‘wimp factor' one of the most important variables in determining the outcomes of elections? First coined in
1988, this phrase…denotes a male candidate's deficient manhood. --Stephen Ducat, The Wimp Factor
The McCain campaign has spent the last two weeks trying to convince American voters that Sarah Palin is just the jolt of estrogen that the country
needs. She has five kids; long, pretty hair; and the teeth-gritting, fist-clenching fierceness of a mother about to pull a car off her toddler.
Reuters, in fact, reports that after her deus ex machina appearance at the Republican National Convention, McCain suddenly shot up 12 points ahead of
Obama with white women. (He was 8 points behind before the confetti fell in Minneapolis.)
Palin may have been plucked from obscurity to appeal to women voters who are aching for a maverick in mom's clothing, but don't be fooled. Palin is
not on this ticket to bring gender balance to the White House; her primary role is to reinforce the almighty power of traditional masculinity.
From her first public speech as VP candidate, she's been driving the point home. Of Obama, she quipped, "This is a man who can give an entire speech
about the wars America is fighting, and never use the word ‘victory.'" Notice that he's not just a candidate giving an address, but a man, a man who
doesn't have the balls to go after outright victory. There is ample evidence that the war in Iraq is not a win-lose equation (and never really was),
but a complex, messy civil entanglement with multiple competing interests, close to 5,000 American lives lost, and $200 million spent daily. Despite
these cold hard facts, Palin chides Obama for not appealing to vulnerable Americans' need to feel like invincible winners again.
And, in perhaps the most offensive display of her "wimp factor" agenda, she attempted to discredit community organizing by feminizing it. She
sarcastically told conventioneering Republicans (along with millions of Americans watching on television), "I guess a small-town mayor is sort of like
a ‘community organizer,' except that you have actual responsibilities." It was an eerie echo of what oblivious men in positions of traditional power
have been saying for centuries: that the work of community building -- whether it be child-rearing, elder-caring, teaching, nursing, social work, or,
yes, community organizing -- isn't really work at all. That, despite being the backbone of our economy and the heart of our civic life, it doesn't
count because it doesn't involve power suits and bottom lines. What makes this ridicule of community-building even more ironic is that the GOP is
simultaneously glorifying Palin's role as caregiver of her own sprawling family.
When it comes to Obama's policies, Palin throws plenty of punches. She asks, "Al Qaeda terrorists still plot to inflict catastrophic harm on America
... he's worried that someone won't read them their rights?" In a McCain/Palin world, even the Constitution is framed as embarrassingly soft. A man
who would worry about the rights of a potentially innocent human being, instead of seeking to immediately destroy him or her and any question about
America's brutal toughness, is seen as humorously wimpy.
"What does he actually seek to accomplish," Palin asks, "after he's done…healing the planet?" Coming from her, "healing" is preposterous and hippie,
something that might work for those touchy-feely community organizers, but not the tough-guy leader of the free world who should -- in Palin's
estimation -- have rigid goals and tank-like resolve. Healing isn't what soldiers are doing right now in underfunded VA hospitals or what McCain did
after suffering as a POW in the Vietnam War; guys tough it out. In fact, those returning from Iraq are often asked to pay out; eight out of 10 wounded
soldiers have been, according to a study commissioned by the First Infantry Division, asked to refund the military for the payments they mistakenly
received while injured. "Healing" is for sissies.
Men are, first and foremost, protectors in Palin's antiquated world. McCain is "not afraid of a fight;" he will "defend America." She assures the
American voters that there is "only one man in this election who has ever really fought for you," discounting with one pithy line the 35-year
political service of Joe Biden (many of them spent specifically focused on foreign relations) and all the ways in which Obama has tried to fight for
the security and safety of this country, including his role in nuclear non-proliferation policy. The Palin worldview is clear -- real men are warriors
and the rest of 'em are wimps.
The flip side of Palin's insistent McCain-mythologizing is her minimization of her own story. What should irritate women voters and certainly enrage
former Hillary supporters the most is that Palin consistently downplays her own ambition and intelligence. Her political narrative is that of "the
hockey mom," someone who didn't have much ambition beyond the PTA but got slowly sucked into electoral politics on a grander scale.
There's no question that becoming a mother is often a politically electrifying experience, but when Clinton spoke, she made clear that mothering was
just one critical part of her complex identity. She didn't attempt to make people comfortable with her femaleness by dressing it up in maternity.
Instead, she transformed the way people saw motherhood. With Clinton, mothering became a legitimate leadership experience. Palin demotes it to a
reassurance for retro thinkers, essentially saying, "Don't worry, I'm a woman with political power, but I'm still an old-fashioned mom."
Palin is standing by her new man, McCain, in the sugary-sweet manner of a '50s pop song. Sure, she's a little feisty, but only in the service of
making her war hero look manly and her own heroics look momly. She was strategically chosen as the sidekick who can call Obama a sissy without fearing
the repercussions, and sway disappointed women voters in the process.
If elected, she will break the glass ceiling of vice-presidential politics, but then she'll do everything in her power to make sure that the gender
roles in Washington -- and the rest of the country, for that matter -- stay exactly the same.defstarsteve - 9-16-2008 at 01:23 PM
