Kiss vs. Pantera

SS76 - 1-27-2009 at 11:03 AM

so its friday night, pounding some beers(or Cokes) with a group of friends. We got 2 cds, lets just say greatest hits compilations by each. I'm crankin my stereo up to eleven with:

SS76 - 1-27-2009 at 11:04 AM

and yeah, I know the guys in Pantera are big kiss fans.

CR83 - 1-27-2009 at 11:53 AM

KISS was the very first album I ever owned in '78. Santa brought it for me. I was 3.

I think Pantera has "the ghey"

panzerkreuzer - 1-27-2009 at 11:55 AM

KISS !!!!

XHonusWagnerX - 1-27-2009 at 12:01 PM

I like Pantera a lot... I think most of the records are good, but I had to go with Kiss.

Jason the Magnificent - 1-27-2009 at 12:08 PM

KISS = Four guys who put out an immense body of quality work highly influential to millions of musicians of all genres all over the world. Changed the face of rock music and what lives shows could be. 8 rock solid albums before they started doing solo albums and experimenting.

Pantera = Four guys who tanked in their effort at glam rocking and latched onto thrash due to a brilliant guitar players ability to write genre changing riffs. 2 rock solid albums and forgettable efforts afterwards.

Don't get me wrong...I do like CFH and VDOP, theyre two perfect albums...thats rare in any genre, but from a legacy standpoint Pantera doesn't even come close to the almighty KISS.

...and breaking it down to just a party standpoint...house full of people getting hammered with any of the 1st four KISS albums cranked having a good time sounds like a much more satisfying time then hanging out with a room of dudes and a bottle of Jagermeister hating the world along with Pantera. I've been to both.

SS76 - 1-27-2009 at 12:25 PM

I've never even listened to a kiss album.Their "popular" radio songs were more than enough for me. Advise me of something that'll change my mind and I'll check it out. My interest level in kiss has always been about equal with Poison. Dudes in makeup.

Jason the Magnificent - 1-27-2009 at 12:34 PM

Pantera...

Poison...

....hmmm

KISS absolutely gets a bad rap over the makeup...but the first 6 studio albums are essential. Check out s/t, hotter than hell, dressed to kill, destroyer, love gun, rock n roll over and alive I and II.

SS76 - 1-27-2009 at 12:43 PM

ouch.point taken....Pantera just lost a few cool points. Guess I never wanted to acknowledge that part of their past. I'll check out some kiss this week. Regardless if the music's good, Gene Simmons is a fucking asshole.

XHonusWagnerX - 1-27-2009 at 12:52 PM

the one thing to take into consideration with Pantera is that the Glam Rock records had a different singer. After they got Phil they put out the 'Power Metal' LP. They still look glammy on it, but its more of a Judas Priest style metal record. Then they became the thrash band that everyone knows them as. I always hated the whole "Dimebag" thing. Even on Cowboys from Hell he was "Diamond Darrel".

I'm not sure what happened to Phil after Pantera... hes in like 37 different underground black metal bands and then Superjoint Ritual which put out 1 great record and 1 okay record.

Discipline - 1-27-2009 at 01:32 PM

Kiss has put out many great albums, but I have to go with Pantera.

Dave - 1-27-2009 at 01:40 PM

is there a third choice?

CR83 - 1-27-2009 at 01:51 PM

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Originally posted by Shootingscars
I've never even listened to a kiss album.Their "popular" radio songs were more than enough for me. Advise me of something that'll change my mind and I'll check it out. My interest level in kiss has always been about equal with Poison. Dudes in makeup.

I'd recommend Double Platinum (I have the 8 track actually), Dynasty and the essential is Alive 1 and 2.

Siczine.com - 1-27-2009 at 04:30 PM

I can't stand Kiss so by default I'll go with Pantera, gay shit and all.

clevohardcore - 1-27-2009 at 05:11 PM

Vulgar and Far Beyond are good. Never liked KISS but I did have CRAZY NIGHTS on cassette as a youngster. Probably their worst record from what people tell me, but I like it. "THESE ARE CRAZY,CRAZY,CRAZY NIIIIGGGHHHHTTTTTS!"

Kid Ugly - 1-27-2009 at 05:44 PM

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Originally posted by Dave
is there a third choice?

random - 1-27-2009 at 06:29 PM

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Originally posted by Kid Ugly

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Originally posted by Dave
is there a third choice?

and if not, i'll suffer with pantera. cowboys from hell was cool when i was 8 or 9, but i can't say i've listened to them since that album.

MarkV - 1-27-2009 at 07:13 PM

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Originally posted by XHonusWagnerXI'm not sure what happened to Phil after Pantera... hes in like 37 different underground black metal bands and then Superjoint Ritual which put out 1 great record and 1 okay record.

Down
Superjoint Ritual
Viking Crown

SS76 - 1-27-2009 at 07:55 PM

I've been waiting over 5 yrs for Phil to release the Manson Family soundtrack. Great music on the movie...anyone have any of these?

"Pray Again for the Locust"
Written and performed by Philip Anselmo
Published by Warner-Tamerlane Publishing Corp (BMI) O/B/O Itself and Nodferatu's Dads Music. Licensed courtesy of Warner Strategic Marketing UK

"66666"
Performed by The Disembodied
Written by Philip Anselmo and Ross Karpelman
Published by Warner-Tamerlane Publishing Corp (BMI) O/B/O Itself and VDPR Music (BMI) Licensed courtesy of Warner Strategic Marketing UK

"Hypnotised By Those Eyes"
Performed by The Disembodied
Written by Philip Anselmo and Ross Karpelman
Published by Warner-Tamerlane Publishing Corp (BMI) O/B/O Itself and VDPR Music (BMI) Licensed courtesy of Warner Strategic Marketing UK

"Psychotic"
Performed by The Disembodied
Written by Philip Anselmo and Ross Karpelman
Published by Warner-Tamerlane Publishing Corp (BMI) O/B/O Itself and VDPR Music (BMI) Licensed courtesy of Warner Strategic Marketing UK

"Sads"
Performed by The Disembodied
Written by Philip Anselmo and Ross Karpelman
Published by Warner-Tamerlane Publishing Corp (BMI) O/B/O Itself and VDPR Music (BMI) Licensed courtesy of Warner Strategic Marketing UK

"Bad Acid"
Performed by The Disembodied
Written by Philip Anselmo and Ross Karpelman
Published by Warner-Tamerlane Publishing Corp (BMI) O/B/O Itself and VDPR Music (BMI) Licensed courtesy of Warner Strategic Marketing UK

"Scattered By Time"
Performed by Body and Blood
Written by Philip Anselmo
Published by Warner-Tamerlane Publishing Corp (BMI) O/B/O Itself and VDPR Music (BMI) Licensed courtesy of Warner Strategic Marketing UK

"Hippie Trip"
Performed by Body and Blood
Written by Philip Anselmo and Ross Karpelman
Published by Warner-Tamerlane Publishing Corp (BMI) O/B/O Itself and VDPR Music (BMI) Licensed courtesy of Warner Strategic Marketing UK

"Hippie Trip 2 - Big Brother"
Performed by Body and Blood
Written by Philip Anselmo and Ross Karpelman
Published by Warner-Tamerlane Publishing Corp (BMI) O/B/O Itself and VDPR Music (BMI) Licensed courtesy of Warner Strategic Marketing UK

"Shine"
Performed by Body and Blood
Written by Philip Anselmo
Published by Warner-Tamerlane Publishing Corp (BMI) O/B/O Itself and VDPR Music (BMI) Licensed courtesy of Warner Strategic Marketing UK

"Long Hair"
Performed by The Swinging Anselmo's
Written by Philip Anselmo
Published by Warner-Tamerlane Publishing Corp (BMI) O/B/O Itself and VDPR Music (BMI) Licensed courtesy of Warner Strategic Marketing UK

"Faded"
Performed by Southern Isolation
Written by Stephanie Opal Weinstein

I remember Long Hair being a real cool song.

Siczine.com - 1-27-2009 at 09:05 PM

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Originally posted by MarkV

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Down
Superjoint Ritual
Viking Crown

Add Arson Anthem to that list

MarkV - 1-27-2009 at 09:06 PM

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Originally posted by Siczine.com

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Originally posted by MarkV

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Down
Superjoint Ritual
Viking Crown

Add Arson Anthem to that list

Doh, yeah, that was actually the first one I was going to put down, but then went to see if Viking Crown was correct and forgot to add it.

tireironsaint - 1-27-2009 at 10:07 PM

I grew up on Kiss and still think the early stuff is some brilliant Rock 'N Roll, when the make up came off they got gay, but were very solid before that. Pantera I never could stand in any of their phases.

Siczine.com - 1-27-2009 at 11:36 PM

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Originally posted by tireironsaint
when the make up came off they got gay, but were very solid before that.

I believe that would qualify as a paradoxical statement.

Six66Mike - 1-28-2009 at 07:43 AM

Gene Simmons and the endless array of pathetic KISS merch have ruined the band for me. They still got some cool tunes but Pantera fucking blows them away.