full frontal male nudity in the new Grand Theft Auto

XHonusWagnerX - 2-20-2009 at 08:56 PM

Parents groups are warning about explicit footage in a new Grand Theft Auto video game, even as a California law banning such material from being sold to children was struck down as unconstitutional.

Common Sense Media, a nonprofit group that reviews games, movies and other entertainment for children, sent out a message late Thursday warning against Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost & Damned.

"Heavy violence, strong language -- and now nudity," the group said. "Thought this M-rated game series couldn't go any lower? Think again." Common Sense Media reviewer Marc Saltzman said that The Lost & Damned, developed by Rockstar Games and published by Take-Two Interactive Software, contained depictions of full-frontal male nudity. It also included some graphically violent scenes, including one in which a gang member's face is pressed against the spinning wheel of a motorcycle -- splatter! The game, Saltzman said, "should be kept away -- far away -- from children."

The Lost & Damned is a $19.99 add-on game, released Tuesday, that's available only as a download on Microsoft's Xbox 360 game console. To play, one must already have Grand Theft Auto IV, which launched in April with little protest from parental groups. This version offers ...

... new characters, weapons, vehicles and music, among other things.

Both titles are rated Mature, a voluntary designation given by the industry-funded Entertainment Software Ratings Board. That means the board recommends that only people 17 or older play the title, and most retailers choose not to sell such titles to minors. The board also noted that The Lost & Damned contains "blood, intense violence, nudity, strong language, strong sexual content and use of drugs and alcohol."

Lawmakers from California, New York and other states have tried various measures to prevent minors from getting their hands on Mature-rated video games, but their efforts have met stiff resistance from federal courts.

Today, a three-judge panel of the 9th Circuit upheld a District Court ruling from 2007 that invalidated a California law banning the sale or rental of violent games to those younger than 18. The appeals court agreed with the trial court that the law was a violation of the 1st Amendment, which protects free speech. Similar laws in Illinois, Oklahoma, Minnesota, Illinois, Michigan and Louisiana have been struck down by federal courts on 1st Amendment grounds.

random - 2-20-2009 at 09:07 PM

Is digital penis really a selling point to the target audience for Grand Theft Auto?

clevohardcore - 2-20-2009 at 10:06 PM

shit not right no matter how its spinned. I wouldnt want my kid playing video games with dicks in it. Adult or child.

Kid Ugly - 2-20-2009 at 10:41 PM

What gets me is that with everything going on in the world, this is what people do with their fucking time, rather than being parents and just a) keeping it out of the house and/or b) bringing up your kids to know the difference between right/wrong fantasy/reality.

XHonusWagnerX - 2-20-2009 at 10:47 PM

the game is rated mature so theres no reason a kid should have it anyway.

Kid Ugly - 2-20-2009 at 10:59 PM

Kids will get it, anyway...older siblings and stores that don't give a fuck. I remember owning DMX when I was 12/13. But, I was raised right so I'm not a fucking murderer or some shit.

MarkV - 2-20-2009 at 11:57 PM

I actually think a male dong is the least of the problems with a kid playing those games.

XnMeX - 2-21-2009 at 12:02 AM

EXACTLY! an uproar over dong, but killing prostitutes is fine...

clevohardcore - 2-21-2009 at 12:23 AM

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Originally posted by Kid Ugly
Kids will get it, anyway...older siblings and stores that don't give a fuck. I remember owning DMX when I was 12/13. But, I was raised right so I'm not a fucking murderer or some shit.

^^^^^^^^^^^ Ya, but what about dongs? Dancing dongs in your dreams. THe games create dancing dongs with frontal male nudity.

JawnDiablo - 2-21-2009 at 12:42 AM

my son was really really good at state of emergency when he was like 5.....

DaveMoral - 2-21-2009 at 03:52 AM

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Originally posted by XnMeX
EXACTLY! an uproar over dong, but killing prostitutes is fine...

Yeah, I really don't understand that shit.

I mean, the last controversy was a softcore bj right? Big fucking deal. I'd rather my kid be seeing bjs and getting bj's than blowing motherfuckers away, running over pedestrians and beating prostitutes to death.

Lucabrasi - 2-21-2009 at 07:40 AM

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Originally posted by random
Is digital penis really a selling point to the target audience for Grand Theft Auto?

maybe?

http://www.diii.net/blog/comments/women-more-hardcore-gamers...

JawnDiablo - 2-21-2009 at 10:43 AM

who sang that song "detachable penis" back in the day?

Voodoobillyman - 2-21-2009 at 10:46 AM

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who sang that song "detachable penis" back in the day?

king missle

clevohardcore - 2-21-2009 at 11:55 AM

DIcks in video games is gay. MOre boobs less dongs.

Siczine.com - 2-21-2009 at 06:34 PM

I will never understand why people concern themselves with such trivial nonsense.

barc0debaby - 2-21-2009 at 08:35 PM

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Originally posted by Siczine.com
I will never understand why people concern themselves with such trivial nonsense.

We live in a society where personal responsibility is an abstract concept.

Discipline - 2-22-2009 at 12:21 AM

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Originally posted by clevohardcore
DIcks in video games is gay. MOre boobs less dongs.

Why is it gay? There's no real difference from female nudity in a game. Some people want to see naked women, some people want to see naked dudes. That doesn't make it gay, it just means you want to see something else.

clevohardcore - 2-22-2009 at 01:46 AM

I never met a chick that thinks video games are cool. Only dudes. If I am dating a chick and she's like "lets play the new blahbahblah, they have dicks in it." I will fart in her face and tell her that dougnen and dragons is not real life. Seriously, videogames and chicks don' tmix. And if they do your with the wrong chick.

clevohardcore - 2-22-2009 at 02:04 AM

Chicks that play video games with dicks in it, is a chick that looks like Kevin Smith and orders double whoppers with cheese and extra barbecue sauce and a side of onion rings.

DaveMoral - 2-22-2009 at 04:32 AM

HAHAHA.

For reals, hilarious.

No, dicks in video games marketed to dudes IS gay. Real gay. In fact, that there's dick in GTA4 proves the homoeroticism of the whole gangsta bullshit in the first place.

Lucabrasi - 2-22-2009 at 07:53 AM

its not like the whole game is centered around dick, jeesh.

XHonusWagnerX - 2-22-2009 at 10:00 AM

I think its funny that theres a dick in the game.

The character is a sleezy politician and hes getting a "massage" from some girl when your character walks in. He has her leave and he gets up to talk and boing! there is is. I was a little shocked, but then I laughed.... I dont think its gay or not gay or any of that... I think its funny!

XnMeX - 2-22-2009 at 12:16 PM

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Originally posted by clevohardcore
Chicks that play video games with dicks in it, is a chick that looks like Kevin Smith and orders double whoppers with cheese and extra barbecue sauce and a side of onion rings.

I beg to differ...

This girl is a hardcore gamer that kicks my ass in Halo 3 all the time. Does not look like Kevin Smith.

My GF is not into video games but she likes paying Rock Band with me (at least singing-wise).

clevohardcore - 2-22-2009 at 01:11 PM

the rockband and guitar warrior are different. THose games can involved the whole family and have some wholesomeness to them.

XnMeX - 2-22-2009 at 02:07 PM

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Originally posted by clevohardcore
the rockband and guitar warrior are different. THose games can involved the whole family and have some wholesomeness to them.

Yeah, I just mentioned that is somthing I play with my gf. The girl above is NOT my gf, but is a hardcore gamer (more hardcore than me) that kicks my ass in Halo 3 and a ton of other "guy games". I have actually seen more atractive hardcore gamer girls than ugly ones.

Siczine.com - 2-22-2009 at 03:29 PM

A lot of stereotyping and homophobic comments in this thread.

And by the logic of because there is a digital dick in GTA that it is gay, then I guess any straight porn is gay too right?

BDx13 - 2-22-2009 at 03:47 PM

i really don't think clevo meant it quite that literally.

clevohardcore - 2-22-2009 at 05:01 PM

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i really don't think clevo meant it quite that literally.

^^^^^^^^^ thank you. :spin:

barc0debaby - 2-22-2009 at 05:25 PM

Fags.

clevohardcore - 2-22-2009 at 08:14 PM

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Fags.

^^^^^^^^ No, thank you. I don't smoke................................................................................................................................................. ...................................................................THE POLE! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! :singing:

Siczine.com - 2-22-2009 at 08:23 PM

I apologize Clevo, it seems as though much of this thread has gone right over my head.

clevohardcore - 2-23-2009 at 12:45 AM

I'm just fucking around. A dick in a videogame is weak no matter how you spin it though. A dick in porn is well, porn. A dick in a video game is, well, a dick in a video game. That is weak. Very weak.

Siczine.com - 2-23-2009 at 01:00 AM

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Originally posted by clevohardcore
I'm just fucking around. A dick in a videogame is weak no matter how you spin it though. A dick in porn is well, porn. A dick in a video game is, well, a dick in a video game. That is weak. Very weak.

Well, now that I know your feelings on the matter I don't see why a dick in GTA is more of an issue than tits.

And let's not forget the GTA series is not supposed to be viewed by people anyone under 18. I don't need anyone saying what has already been pointed out, that people under the age of 18 will be able to view it because of the problems of regulating it. It's just like kids under 18 that can view porno and get access to cigs and alcohol before they are of age.

I see no problem with anything. It isn't my fault people can't control what their kids see. Be a better fucking parent then.

DaveMoral - 2-23-2009 at 01:05 AM

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Originally posted by Siczine.com
A lot of stereotyping and homophobic comments in this thread.

And by the logic of because there is a digital dick in GTA that it is gay, then I guess any straight porn is gay too right?

Do you deny that the whole gangta theme is exceedingly homoerotic dude?

I think full frontal male nudity in a gangsta themed game is just that... homoeroticism take to it's logical graphical depiction.

MarkV - 2-23-2009 at 01:54 AM

I view it the way I view seeing Jax' ass in Sons of Anarchy or seeing Vigo Mortenson's (sp) dick in Eastern Promises. It's really not a big deal.

Jason the Magnificent - 2-23-2009 at 07:05 AM

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Moreso than HC where young men pile shirtless on top of each other and dance together?

clevohardcore - 2-23-2009 at 08:55 AM

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Originally posted by MarkV
I view it the way I view seeing Jax' ass in Sons of Anarchy or seeing Vigo Mortenson's (sp) dick in Eastern Promises. It's really not a big deal.

Are those games too? WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON IN VIDEO GAMES NOW ADAYS? Is MORRISSEY writing for the story board at video game companies?

Jason the Magnificent - 2-23-2009 at 09:33 AM

Sons is a TV show on FX about bikers and Eastern Promises is an amazing movie about the Russian mob.

MarkV - 2-23-2009 at 12:50 PM

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Originally posted by Jason the Magnificent
Sons is a TV show on FX about bikers and Eastern Promises is an amazing movie about the Russian mob.

Thank you.

DaveMoral - 2-23-2009 at 03:17 PM

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Moreso than HC where young men pile shirtless on top of each other and dance together?

Nope. Hardcore is pretty homoerotic too.

'Course, I was never one to take my shirt off at a show or pile on top of dudes with thier shirts off at shows.

BDx13 - 2-23-2009 at 04:02 PM

man, that's why i got into hardcore.
"that's not sweat, that's baby oil!"

XHonusWagnerX - 2-23-2009 at 04:19 PM

I hate it when I'm stuck up against a guy with no shirt on at a show. fuck that... keep your clothes on!

morgan - 2-23-2009 at 04:25 PM

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Originally posted by BD
"that's not sweat, that's baby oil!"

*shudders*

But seriously if the fact that you see a dick in a game that revolves around beating/killing people, drugs, and stealing cars bothers you I think you should probably reevaluate your values. Besides I really don't think this was a game ever intended for children. With that being said, I don't have xbox live so I don't have access to this game which is why I'm here and not playing it right now because I loved GTA IV.

XHonusWagnerX - 2-23-2009 at 04:27 PM

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"that's not sweat, that's baby oil!"

You dont have to have the pay account for XBox live to get the game. If you just plug your xbox into an internet connection you can download the game and then unplug it and play. The game is 1600 microsoft points ($20) and you have to have the disc for GTA4 in your console to play it after you download it to your system.

MarkV - 2-23-2009 at 04:40 PM

This is all crazy talk, this downloading games and shit.

clevohardcore - 2-23-2009 at 04:56 PM

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Originally posted by MarkV
This is all crazy talk, this downloading games and shit.

^^^^^^ especially when they involve penis. It's just preposterous.

Discipline - 2-23-2009 at 06:22 PM

They're all toolin' for anus.

BDx13 - 4-16-2009 at 03:19 AM

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-10218094-17.html

mattybar - 4-16-2009 at 07:19 AM

GTA4 is the best video game ever made. end of story.

clevohardcore - 4-16-2009 at 10:10 AM

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^^^^^^^^^^ Wooooh dude, Being a parent is buying a game for a kid that is entertainment, but finding that it has dicks in it is just wrong. Thats not fair to blame a parent for supplying a game to a child and not being aware of it having weiner's in it. The parent should get a heads up.

I'm for video games being free of dicks.