Watchmen this Friday

necrobutcher - 3-3-2009 at 01:08 AM

Anybody else excited for this?

I have to say the graphic novel is one of the best comics I have ever read, along with Batman: The Killing Joke.

morgan - 3-3-2009 at 01:22 AM

Really looking forward to this.

DaveMoral - 3-3-2009 at 02:22 AM

Looks great. Newsweek reviewer suggests it might be too slavishly true to the source material though. Which, I can sort of see how it might be a hinderance.

Alan Moore is not behind it, if that means anything to anyone.

Discipline - 3-3-2009 at 12:43 PM

Alan Moore wants nothing to do with Hollywood.

I've never read the graphic novel but it looks amazing and I can't wait to see it.

DaveMoral - 3-3-2009 at 01:31 PM

The graphic novel is essential. Seriously.

clevohardcore - 3-3-2009 at 04:13 PM

It looks cool. Thats all I know.

morgan - 3-3-2009 at 04:21 PM

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The graphic novel is essential. Seriously.

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I am curious though as to what all is gonna have to be cut out or changed for the sake of time. Its not exactly a quick and shallow read.

Jason the Magnificent - 3-3-2009 at 05:13 PM

It does have a 3hr run time, a lot can be done in that amount of time.

Murk - 3-3-2009 at 05:15 PM

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Alan Moore is not behind it, if that means anything to anyone.

true, but...

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According to Moore, David Hayter's script "was as close as [he] could imagine anyone getting to Watchmen."

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I am curious though as to what all is gonna have to be cut out or changed for the sake of time.

me too, but this gives me hope:

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Snyder's first cut of the film was three hours long. In keeping the film tight, Snyder dubbed himself "the gatekeeper" of the comic's easter eggs, "while [the studio] conspire to say, 'No. Length, length, length. Playability.' [...]

I've lost perspective on that now, because to me, the honest truth is I geek out on little stuff now as much as anybody. Like, people will go, 'We've got to cut. You don't need that shot of Hollis Mason's garage sign.' And I'm like, 'What are you talking about? Of course you do. Are you crazy? How will people enjoy the movie without shit like that in it?'

So it's hard for me."[90] Warner Bros. president of production Jeff Robinov indicated a 145-minute theatrical running time was more likely.[10] Snyder cut the film down to 165 minutes, then 157 when he realized there was a way to further trim the film

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmen_(film)

i'm gonna see it Friday and then re-read the graphic novel.

Voodoobillyman - 3-3-2009 at 07:10 PM

Just finished re-reading the graphic and I plan to see this ASAP!!!!

necrobutcher - 3-3-2009 at 07:43 PM

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It does have a 3hr run time, a lot can be done in that amount of time.

I have heard a lot of it is through Rorschach's perspective, which makes sense as a lot of the graphic novel is focused on him. Plus all the Tales From the Black Freighter are going to be its own straight to video film.

DaveMoral - 3-3-2009 at 07:49 PM

Yeah, Tales from the Black Freighter is an animated film.

I honestly don't think they cut alot out. I mean, there will be stuff, but it's not going to be as much as we might think. Hard to imagine a 12 issue run being in a single movie.

morgan - 3-3-2009 at 08:21 PM

Apparently the ending was changed though for the sake of keeping things simple and being able to skip over some of the backstory. Don't really like that it was changed but I think it will still fit the tone of the source material.

Major Spoiler:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0409459/trivia

XnMeX - 3-3-2009 at 11:50 PM

Never read the book. Gonna see it in Imax on sunday though.

XHonusWagnerX - 3-4-2009 at 07:48 AM

definitly excited.

Is Alan Moore not behind it because he thinks the movie will suck or just because he wants nothing to do with films in general?

necrobutcher - 3-4-2009 at 08:33 AM

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definitly excited.

Is Alan Moore not behind it because he thinks the movie will suck or just because he wants nothing to do with films in general?

I believe the answer is that he is batshit crazy and lives in a cave.

Something had to have happened where he got fucked over but good since I remember hearing that when they did V For Vendetta he took the money for the rights and walked away, opting out of any creative control, and th

Discipline - 3-4-2009 at 12:50 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Moore#Disputes

MarkV - 3-4-2009 at 07:19 PM

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definitly excited.

Is Alan Moore not behind it because he thinks the movie will suck or just because he wants nothing to do with films in general?

He gave his portion of the proceeds to the artist who did it with him. He wants nothing to do with hollywood and doesn't believe his books should be adapted for film.

bombidol - 3-4-2009 at 09:20 PM

Just back from seeing this. holy shit. Get your tickets ready.

Voodoobillyman - 3-5-2009 at 06:00 PM

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definitly excited.

Is Alan Moore not behind it because he thinks the movie will suck or just because he wants nothing to do with films in general?

He gave his portion of the proceeds to the artist who did it with him. He wants nothing to do with hollywood and doesn't believe his books should be adapted for film.

did he get any proceeds from this one?

necrobutcher - 3-5-2009 at 08:30 PM

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definitly excited.

Is Alan Moore not behind it because he thinks the movie will suck or just because he wants nothing to do with films in general?

He gave his portion of the proceeds to the artist who did it with him. He wants nothing to do with hollywood and doesn't believe his books should be adapted for film.

did he get any proceeds from this one?

I didn't do any research but I'm willing to venture that he got a royalty check, some piece of the residual possibly and then wandered off.

bombidol - 3-5-2009 at 08:35 PM

Moore has forwarded all money from the movie to Dave Gibbons the artist on Watchmen. Moore would never need to worry about money anyway. AND hes batshit crazy (smart)

MarkV - 3-5-2009 at 09:07 PM

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definitly excited.

Is Alan Moore not behind it because he thinks the movie will suck or just because he wants nothing to do with films in general?

He gave his portion of the proceeds to the artist who did it with him. He wants nothing to do with hollywood and doesn't believe his books should be adapted for film.

did he get any proceeds from this one?

I didn't do any research but I'm willing to venture that he got a royalty check, some piece of the residual possibly and then wandered off.

Considering he gave his V for Vendetta money to the artist on that, I'd assume he did the same with this one.

DaveMoral - 3-6-2009 at 02:02 AM

He's definitely batshit crazy. And a magician, thanks to that wikipedia article Mike linked.

Murk - 3-6-2009 at 09:22 PM

saw it today.

pretty cool.

even cooler will be the 3hr 10min director's cut.

http://www.cinematical.com/2009/02/19/watchmen-directors-cut...

MarkV - 3-6-2009 at 09:30 PM

There's the other DVD coming out soon, too w/ Takes of the Black Freighter and the Under the Mask (or is it Hood?) mockumentary. Plus the "ultimate" dvd which will have the directors cut w/ addition footage and the version w/ Black Freighter cut in, which is supposed to be closer to 3.5 hours.

Murk - 3-6-2009 at 09:56 PM

why do you guys say Moore is batshit crazy?

Murk - 3-6-2009 at 10:00 PM

http://www.theworldofwatchmen.com/

MarkV - 3-6-2009 at 10:41 PM

Going to order that shortly.

Moore is what I think is generally called "eccentric."

Murk - 3-7-2009 at 12:22 AM

if anyone who isn't familiar with the comic is planning on seeing, keep in mind this isn't a fast paced action flick, it's a story with some action.

for those that are, they stay pretty true to the comic, from what i remember, but some stuffed was "condensed".

my gf thought it was going to be something completely different, but she liked it.

necrobutcher - 3-7-2009 at 02:28 AM

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why do you guys say Moore is batshit crazy?

Check his wikipedia article. Granted, he just may be eccentric as fuck but I always put him in the category of tapdancing on the fine line between genius and insane.

JawnDiablo - 3-7-2009 at 10:58 AM

it has an R rating, but is it too much for a 12 year old?
junior wants to see it too.

Murk - 3-7-2009 at 03:18 PM

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why do you guys say Moore is batshit crazy?

Check his wikipedia article.

i did, but didn't see any batshit crazy credentials.

Murk - 3-7-2009 at 03:22 PM

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it has an R rating, but is it too much for a 12 year old?
junior wants to see it too.

i think the R rating is mainly because of a couple of sex scenes and there's a blue penis visible in many scenes.

the violence is pretty close to what you'd see in X-Men or Dark Knight, but there's more blood.

barc0debaby - 3-7-2009 at 03:27 PM

Moore definitely looks loony tunes.

tireironsaint - 3-7-2009 at 04:16 PM

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it has an R rating, but is it too much for a 12 year old?
junior wants to see it too.

It might be a little much for a 12 year old, there's a pretty rough attempted rape scene and a few sex scenes of varying levels of explicitness. I would mostly be uncomfortable about kids seeing the rape though. There are some fairly intense ideas expressed in it that would probably go right over the heads of a lot of kids, but might be difficult to deal with for the ones who do catch on. It's an amazing movie and I'd recommend seeing it, but you might need to see it without junior first and make up your mind about it for him.

DaveMoral - 3-7-2009 at 04:17 PM

Why a blue dong... I don't recall Dr Manhattan having his dong out in the comic. Just a blue flat zone where that shoulda been.

Murk - 3-7-2009 at 06:58 PM

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it has an R rating, but is it too much for a 12 year old?
junior wants to see it too.

yeah, and the same guy who attempts the rape also shoots a pregnant woman and there is a discussion about it afterwards.

Murk - 3-7-2009 at 07:04 PM

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Why a blue dong... I don't recall Dr Manhattan having his dong out in the comic. Just a blue flat zone where that shoulda been.

whenever dude becomes supersized, they either omit it or have him wearing a v-shaped blue thing.

while the comic doesn't have any dongage, they are many scenes where he has no clothers on, so i guess it's hard to film that and keep it dong-free.

Voodoobillyman - 3-7-2009 at 07:09 PM

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Why a blue dong... I don't recall Dr Manhattan having his dong out in the comic. Just a blue flat zone where that shoulda been.

Actually, if you go back and re=-read the book, there is in fact blue dongage. Not that I look for that kind of thing...........

JawnDiablo - 3-7-2009 at 08:44 PM

Junior won't be seeing it then.
thanks for the heads up dudes.

DaveMoral - 3-8-2009 at 12:51 AM

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Why a blue dong... I don't recall Dr Manhattan having his dong out in the comic. Just a blue flat zone where that shoulda been.

Actually, if you go back and re=-read the book, there is in fact blue dongage. Not that I look for that kind of thing...........

Yeah, I checked it later. It's like once though. On Mars. And the all-powerful Dr Manhattan "god among men" is pretty small... :lol:

MarkV - 3-8-2009 at 06:24 PM

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Why a blue dong... I don't recall Dr Manhattan having his dong out in the comic. Just a blue flat zone where that shoulda been.

Actually, if you go back and re=-read the book, there is in fact blue dongage. Not that I look for that kind of thing...........

Yeah, I checked it later. It's like once though. On Mars. And the all-powerful Dr Manhattan "god among men" is pretty small... :lol:

Size is irrelevant when it's nuclear powered.

clevohardcore - 3-9-2009 at 12:06 AM

My cousin went to see it and said it sucked dick, but he never got into the comic.

DaveMoral - 3-9-2009 at 09:33 AM

Is your cousin a comic head at all?

DaveMoral - 3-13-2009 at 10:03 PM

I just got back from Watchmen, finally, and thought it was awesome. Incredibly great visually, as well as being so true to the source material. The only thing that threw me off a little bit, at times, was the music choices. I would've probably preferred more scoring and less soundtracking. Know what I mean?

morgan - 3-13-2009 at 10:14 PM

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I just got back from Watchmen, finally, and thought it was awesome. Incredibly great visually, as well as being so true to the source material. The only thing that threw me off a little bit, at times, was the music choices. I would've probably preferred more scoring and less soundtracking. Know what I mean?

Yeah the music choices threw me off a few time too. Other than that excellent movie. And as much as I hate to say it I want to see the director's cut of this.

DaveMoral - 3-14-2009 at 12:05 AM

No, I definitely want to see the director's cut. Complete with the Tales from the Black Freighter and excerpts from "Under the Hood."

Jason the Magnificent - 3-14-2009 at 12:07 AM

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Why a blue dong... I don't recall Dr Manhattan having his dong out in the comic. Just a blue flat zone where that shoulda been.

Actually, if you go back and re=-read the book, there is in fact blue dongage. Not that I look for that kind of thing...........

Yeah, I checked it later. It's like once though. On Mars. And the all-powerful Dr Manhattan "god among men" is pretty small... :lol:

Actually re-reading it...theres blue cock everywhere...not just the Mars parts.

DaveMoral - 3-14-2009 at 01:13 AM

You know what's funny? It took me seeing the movie to realize, finally, that it was always Rorshach walking around with that "The End Is Near" sign in the comic. The dude's everywhere!

Discipline - 3-14-2009 at 11:51 AM

I downloaded and animated version of the comic last night so I'm going to check out that at some point today.

Voodoobillyman - 3-14-2009 at 12:08 PM

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You know what's funny? It took me seeing the movie to realize, finally, that it was always Rorshach walking around with that "The End Is Near" sign in the comic. The dude's everywhere!

You never realized that was him? The newstand owner was saying something about how he would come there everyday right after they caught him. By the by, I am totally digging the Goon picture, have you seen the most recent photos of the animated versions of Franky and Goon???!!! They have photos on aint it cool news, check it out, they look RAD!!!!!!!!! This movie is going to kill all

DaveMoral - 3-14-2009 at 05:58 PM

Dude, how stupid is it that I never realized that dude was Rorschach? Hahaha. Honestly, on repeated readings and viewings of things you notice different shit. It just so happened that I realize Rorschach was that cuz of the movie... and that probably because I'd seen pictures of him unmasked(unfaced?) before seeing the movie... so I had that realization as Moloch was visiting the Comedian's grave!

I just started reading the Goon... awesome book. Can't wait for the animated thing. I'll have to check out those pics.

Voodoobillyman - 3-15-2009 at 12:25 PM

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Dude, how stupid is it that I never realized that dude was Rorschach? Hahaha. Honestly, on repeated readings and viewings of things you notice different shit. It just so happened that I realize Rorschach was that cuz of the movie... and that probably because I'd seen pictures of him unmasked(unfaced?) before seeing the movie... so I had that realization as Moloch was visiting the Comedian's grave!

I just started reading the Goon... awesome book. Can't wait for the animated thing. I'll have to check out those pics.

That is the beauty of this graph......something new realized everytime. I just had a comic epiphany myself yesterday. I finally realized the M in the square Mignola has been using as his signature for eons is M squared = Mike Mignola. Me dumb. Glad you found the pics bro and even happier you are diggin Powells work. The Goon single handedly got me excited about comic books again after an almost 15 year hiatus. The 10th anniversary just came out and it rocks. Dark Horse is getting ready to release 3 new graphs collecting the most recent years worth of story line. I recommend getting volume 0-5 and 6 when it gets out. It will catch you up and get you hip to the best thing happening in comics today.

DaveMoral - 3-15-2009 at 01:05 PM

I managed to read the earliest stuff, before Powell got hooked up with Dark Horse. It's interesting how different he drew the Goon back then. More superhero comic book-ish, but still cartoony.