new HATEBREED and EARTH CRISIS

clevohardcore - 5-4-2009 at 10:45 PM

Both really good buys. I got them a day early form a friend at a local record shop. The EC is really fucking heavy. Surprised me. I figured it be laced with that singing bullshit. Not at all.

XHonusWagnerX - 5-5-2009 at 06:01 AM

I was thinking about checking these out today, but I'm not sure yet. I'm not a huge fan of either band, but I'm curious about the EC record since its been so long since they put something out and I'm always a sucker for a record of Cover songs so I will probably get the Hatebreed one.

clevohardcore - 5-5-2009 at 10:14 AM

the ec is tough. It's heavy and very ec. Think "gomorrah season", but fast. Think slither without the whiny rapping vocals. Add some good slayer guitar riffs and you got ht enew record. However the animal lib tip is in full effect more than normal and they have a awesome song about connecting all wars and the drug trade. More people die that are involved in the distribution of drugs than any war against another country. I like the record.

BDx13 - 5-5-2009 at 10:22 AM

Listening to the Hatebreed album on myspace now.

http://www.myspace.com/hatebreed

DaveMoral - 5-5-2009 at 11:00 AM

The EC record is alright. Not their best effort, IMO. And the sound like some of the corniest of the European vegan bands lyrics-wise sometimes. It's no Destroy the Machines, that's for sure.

Don't really care about Hatebreed.

clevohardcore - 5-5-2009 at 01:16 PM

HATEBREED do justice to every song they cover. It's up there.

BKT - 5-5-2009 at 02:52 PM

I have not heard the EC and don't intend to. I think the Hatebreed is total rubbish. The song choices were shit and they were just mindless boring covers with no flare or personal touch to them at all. Escape by Metallica are you fucking kidding me. You take the best record they ever did and cover one of the their worst songs. Could you imagine how good For Whom the Bell Tolls would have sounded done by hatebreed.

That album was a let down.

MM.

BKT - 5-5-2009 at 03:18 PM

You know what? Fuck me!!! I can admit when I am wrong. I just checked out some songs from the new EC album and that shit is heavy. I like it, its coming to the gym with me tonight for sure.

MM.

panzerkreuzer - 5-5-2009 at 03:27 PM

listen to "against the current". heavy as hell!

XHonusWagnerX - 5-5-2009 at 03:33 PM

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Escape by Metallica are you fucking kidding me. You take the best record they ever did and cover one of the their worst songs. Could you imagine how good For Whom the Bell Tolls would have sounded done by hatebreed.

I havent heard it so I dont have an opinion, but I'm surprised that you would want to hear For Whom The Bell Tolls.... I'm not a big fan of that song. Off that LP I rather hear "Ride The Lightning" or "Trapped Under Ice" for sure!

BKT - 5-5-2009 at 03:33 PM

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listen to "against the current". heavy as hell!

Ya that is the song I heard first that made me want to buy the album.

MM.

BKT - 5-5-2009 at 03:35 PM

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I love both songs you mentioned. I just thought that For Whom would suit hatebreed. And I love that song.

MM.

panzerkreuzer - 5-5-2009 at 03:49 PM

i think "escape" isn´t a bad song and i appreciate that the cover not only the hits that bands had, but more unknown songs. and they did it well with escape. jasta can even sing if he wants to and he should do it more often.

JawnDiablo - 5-5-2009 at 06:19 PM

No EC for me, please.
Some of the HB songs are ok, but some just shouldnt be.
the suicidal cover blows.

XHonusWagnerX - 5-5-2009 at 07:09 PM

I bought both... I like some of the Hatebreed covers (Black Flag, Metallica, Misfits, Bad Brains) but some of them are not that great.

I havent listened to Earth Crisis yet.

I also got the new ISIS, but havent listened to it.

and I got The Vaselines "Enter The Vaselines" and its good, but I already knew it would be since its a collection and not new stuff.

clevohardcore - 5-5-2009 at 08:06 PM

The SLAYER cover is awesome. Same with the SUICIDAL.

MarkV - 5-8-2009 at 06:18 AM

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Originally posted by metal mulisha
I have not heard the EC and don't intend to. I think the Hatebreed is total rubbish. The song choices were shit and they were just mindless boring covers with no flare or personal touch to them at all. Escape by Metallica are you fucking kidding me. You take the best record they ever did and cover one of the their worst songs. Could you imagine how good For Whom the Bell Tolls would have sounded done by hatebreed.

That album was a let down.

MM.

That's odd/funny. Seems the general reaction from fans and press has been the total opposite: the song choices are great. They didn't take the "obvious hits" from the bands.

XHonusWagnerX - 5-8-2009 at 07:27 AM

I'm listening to it again now so I definitly dont hate it, but its not that great. I feel like they took a lot of the energy & feeling out of some of the songs and now they just sound like generic metal/core songs insted of the classics that they really are (in most cases)

clevohardcore - 5-8-2009 at 08:02 AM

Look, its been a couple days now since the EC release. It's not the best thing ever. It's not even the best EC, but it is good. It doesn't get weak like past records did. Will I listen to it always. No, but I think its a good EC record.

XHonusWagnerX - 5-8-2009 at 08:25 AM

the day those came out I bought....

EARTH CRISIS
HATEBREED
THE VASELINES (collection)
ISIS (new record)

The ISIS is awesome!! The Vaselines is great (if you like them!). The Earth Crisis is okay, and the Hatebreed is pretty good.

Thats just my 2 cent review.

DaveMoral - 5-8-2009 at 02:52 PM

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Look, its been a couple days now since the EC release. It's not the best thing ever. It's not even the best EC, but it is good. It doesn't get weak like past records did. Will I listen to it always. No, but I think its a good EC record.

The two worst EC albums, by far, are Slither and Gommorah's Seaon Ends. I do think To The Death surpasses those... I'm not sure where I stand with it in relation to Breed the Killers... for me they are about the same.

Destroy the Machines and the two 7"s will always be my favorites of theirs.

clevohardcore - 5-8-2009 at 04:37 PM

GAmorrah fucking ruled.

DaveMoral - 5-8-2009 at 05:27 PM

No way. That one is pretty fucking bad, IMO.

Jason the Magnificent - 5-9-2009 at 07:02 AM

Probably the two worst bands to ever happen to HC.

clevohardcore - 5-9-2009 at 09:34 AM

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No way. That one is pretty fucking bad, IMO.

^^^^^^^ SERIOUSLY? Tell me you don't feel the anger/frustration in the song MORALITY DICTATES. That I feel is one of there high points. Next to the ALL OUT WAR and FIRESTORM 7"s.

DaveMoral - 5-9-2009 at 01:10 PM

Morality Dictates is okay, I just really dislike the vocal effects and the slow and prodding doom-ishness of it. As an Earth Crisis record I think it's not that great.

MarkV - 5-9-2009 at 04:49 PM

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No way. That one is pretty fucking bad, IMO.

^^^^^^^ SERIOUSLY? Tell me you don't feel the anger/frustration in the song MORALITY DICTATES. That I feel is one of there high points. Next to the ALL OUT WAR and FIRESTORM 7"s.

Honestly, you're the only person I've ever heard say they like this record.

clevohardcore - 5-10-2009 at 01:17 AM

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No way. That one is pretty fucking bad, IMO.

^^^^^^^ SERIOUSLY? Tell me you don't feel the anger/frustration in the song MORALITY DICTATES. That I feel is one of there high points. Next to the ALL OUT WAR and FIRESTORM 7"s.

Honestly, you're the only person I've ever heard say they like this record.

^^^^^^^^^^^ Come to think abou tit. I think your right. I don't know anyone either that likes it. Even when it was released.

DaveMoral - 5-10-2009 at 11:33 AM

Gommorah's was the first EC album I bought... but it was quickly supplanted as I started buying the older records and the live album that came out shortly after it. The best song on there is Gommorah's Season Ends and that sounds way better live. Ever notice how that's like the only track from that album they do play live?

clevohardcore - 5-10-2009 at 09:06 PM

Honestly I think the last time I saw them play was in 1996. SKARHEAD opened and busted there balls all evening before they came on.

BKT - 5-11-2009 at 12:14 AM

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Honestly I think the last time I saw them play was in 1996. SKARHEAD opened and busted there balls all evening before they came on.

Was that in Detroit with Madball and Hatebreed? If so I was at that show and it was insane.

MM.

clevohardcore - 5-11-2009 at 07:00 PM

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Honestly I think the last time I saw them play was in 1996. SKARHEAD opened and busted there balls all evening before they came on.

Was that in Detroit with Madball and Hatebreed? If so I was at that show and it was insane.

MM.

^^^^^^^ No it was Cleveland, but we almost went to the Detroit show as well. I think I was working the next day or something so I backed out. That summer year we had alot of shows in town.

CR83 - 5-12-2009 at 09:08 AM

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Originally posted by clevohardcore
Honestly I think the last time I saw them play was in 1996. SKARHEAD opened and busted there balls all evening before they came on.

Was that in Detroit with Madball and Hatebreed? If so I was at that show and it was insane.

MM.

^^^^^^^ No it was Cleveland, but we almost went to the Detroit show as well. I think I was working the next day or something so I backed out. That summer year we had alot of shows in town.

I caught the STL show of that tour. I wasn't familiar with any of the bands except EC. I was totally blown away and went drinking with some of the guys that night. It was awesome

BDx13 - 5-18-2009 at 12:08 PM

listening to the new earth crisis now.
much heavier than i expected.
maybe just more metal sounding than i expected.

Discipline - 5-18-2009 at 04:34 PM

They've always been a metal band in my opinion.

clevohardcore - 5-18-2009 at 10:21 PM

Ya they have, but this cd is pretty punishing for them.