this is why I hate Jane Fonda aka Hanoi Jane

xsharpx - 6-22-2005 at 02:24 PM

this is a repost and from multiple reliable sources especially since I am a member of the POW / MIA fund and resource:

When I was at Camp Pendleton receiving combat corpsman training, I noticed that the pickup truck belonging to the gunnery sergeant in charge of our training was adorned with bumper stickers containing extremely unflattering remarks about Jane Fonda. I also noticed a few referred to Ms. Fonda and Vietnam, but at the time I honestly had no idea why.

Being an E-5 and close to rank to our E-7 gunny, after a training rotation one afternoon I decided to ask him about those stickers, and what they had to do with Fonda.

He muttered a few obscenities and proceeded to tell me the story. Fonda, he said, became a traitor during the Vietnam War ? a war in which "gunny" had served two tours and for which he had received three Purple Hearts (which is why he enjoyed training Navy corpsmen to be Marine Corps combat corpsmen ? they'd saved his life a time or two).

The following excerpts are not "gunny's" words, but when received them in an e-mail recently, it reminded me of his story. And, as ABC's Barbara Walters prepares to honor the traitorous Jane Fonda during Walters' "100 years of great women" program soon, I thought the American people needed to hear this story again. You see, Fonda isn't just exercise videos and the third wheel in "Nine to Five" (the movie).

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"There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Jane Fonda's participation in what I believe to be blatant treason, is one of them. Part of my conviction comes from exposure to those who suffered her attentions.

"In 1978, the Commandant of the USAF Survival School, a colonel, was a former POW in Ho Lo Prison ? the Hanoi Hilton. Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American 'Peace Activist' the 'lenient and humane treatment' he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, accidentally pulling the man's shoe off ? which sent that officer berserk.

"In '78, the AF colonel still suffered from double vision ? permanently grounding him ? from the Vietnamese officer's frenzied application of a wooden baton.

"From 1983-85, Col. Larry Carrigan was 347FW/DO (F-4Es). He'd spent 6 [product] years in the Hilton ? the first three of which he was listed as MIA. His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned/fed/clothed routine in preparation for a 'peace delegation' visit.

"They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his Social Security number on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like, 'Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?' and, 'Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?'"

"Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge ... and handed him the little pile of notes.

"Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four.

"For years after their release, a group of determined former POWs, including Col. Carrigan, tried to bring Ms. Fonda and others up on charges of treason. I don't know that they used it, but the charge of 'Negligent Homicide due to Depraved Indifference' would also seem appropriate. Her obvious 'granting of aid and comfort to the enemy' alone should've been sufficient for the treason count. However, to date, Jane Fonda has never been formally charged with anything and continues to enjoy the privileged life of the rich and famous.

"I, personally, think that this is shame on us, the American Citizenry.

"Part of our shortfall is ignorance: Most don't know such actions ever took place.

"The only addition I might add to these sentiments is to remember the satisfaction of relieving myself into the urinal at some air base or another where 'zaps' of Hanoi Jane's face had been applied."

And there is this account:

"I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a 'black box' in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban Me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I later buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border.

"At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lb. [my normal weight is 170 lb.). We were Jane Fonda's 'war criminals.'"

"When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with her. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs were receiving, which was far different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as 'humane and lenient.' Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a piece of steel re-bar placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane every time my arms dipped.

"Jane Fonda had the audacity to say that the POWs were lying about our torture and treatment. Now ABC is allowing Barbara Walters to honor Jane Fonda in her feature "100 Years of Great Women." Shame on the Disney Company.

"I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me, her husband (at the time), Tom Hayden, answered for her. She was mind controlled by her husband. This does not exemplify someone who should be honored by '100 Years of Great Women.'"

"After I was released, I was asked what I thought of Jane Fonda and the anti-war movement. I said that I held Joan Baez's husband in very high regard, for he thought the war was wrong, burned his draft card and went to prison in protest. If the other anti-war protesters took this same route, it would have brought our judicial system to a halt and ended the war much earlier, and there wouldn't be as many on that somber black granite wall called the Vietnam Memorial. This is democracy. This is the American way.

"Jane Fonda, on the other hand, chose to be a traitor, and went to Hanoi, wore their uniform, propagandized for the communists, and urged American soldiers to desert. As we were being tortured, and some of the POWs murdered, she called us liars. After her heroes ? the North Vietnamese communists ? took over South Vietnam, they systematically murdered 80,000 South Vietnamese political prisoners. May their souls rest on her head forever."

In the words of Paul Harvey, America, "now you know the rest of the story."

ABC and Babs Walters will undoubtedly include "Hanoi" Jane in their televised celebration because their black souls are too hardened and too imbued with an anti-American sentiment to do anything else. And ultimately, they will all answer for what they have done in their lives. In the meantime, I don't plan on watching anything that has Jane Fonda's face anywhere near it. I won't buy her videos; I won't rent or go see her movies. As far as I'm concerned, she's already dead to me.

Whether or not you agreed with the war in Vietnam, whether you're a Vietnam vet or a former member of the protest movement, or whether you're too old or too young to have been there, the behavior of Jane Fonda towards our own military men is reprehensible beyond belief. All I ask is that you think about these accounts the next time you see her. Let your conscience guide your actions from there

Dan - 6-22-2005 at 04:45 PM

I am an anti-communist and I believe that Jane Fonda is a communist and a traitor. Having said that, there are parts of this e-mail that I believe to be untrue. There is an organization that investigates popular rumors such as this and they have investigated this e-mail here.

This is an excerpt from their investigation quoting Col. Larry Carrigan who is listed as a source in that e-mail:

"It's a figment of somebody's imagination," says Ret. Col. Larry Carrigan, one of the servicemen mentioned in the 'slips of paper' incident. Carrigan was shot down over North Vietnam in 1967 and did spend time in a POW camp. He has no idea why the story was attributed to him, saying, "I never met Jane Fonda." In 2005, the Minneapolis Star Tribune reported that Carrigan "is so tired of having to repeat that he wasn't beaten after Fonda's visit and that there were no beating deaths at that time that he won't talk to the media anymore."

This is an excerpt from their FAQ page:

Q: How do I know the information you've presented is accurate?

A: We don't expect anyone to accept us as the ultimate authority on any topic, which is why our site's name indicates that it contains reference pages. Unlike the plethora of anonymous individuals who create and send the unsigned, unsourced e-mail messages that are forwarded all over the Internet, we show our work. The research materials we've used in the preparation of any particular page are listed in the bibliography displayed at the bottom of that page so that readers who wish to verify the validity of our information may check those sources for themselves.

As a matter of public record, she has done and said enough things to expose herself as a communist and a traitor http://www.1stcavmedic.com/jane_fonda.htm. It's better to focus on those things than these shady e-mails that float around the internet.

-Dan

Discipline - 6-22-2005 at 04:55 PM

I love good intelligent replies. Nice job!

Killthehumans - 6-23-2005 at 01:51 AM

i dont mind communists, i dont think the US invasion of vietnam was a good idea and im not very nationalistic, however i still hate jane fonda because of what happeneed to those prisoners and because of phony hollywood liberal bullshit

BDx13 - 6-23-2005 at 06:24 AM

good input and info all around.

JawnDiablo - 6-23-2005 at 07:14 AM

I don't care for Jand Fonda either. I heard similar stories growing up from family and neighbors who were around or involved at the time of the Vietnom War. In fact, every so often I see those "Not Fonda Jane" bumper stickers.
For Barbara Walters, fuck her. Anything she had ever done has been watered down and never asks any real questions to these people. Shit didn't she do a Michael Jackson interview way back in the beginning of that crap. I seem to think she did OJ too.I have figured her job in the media is to keep scaring people 55 and over like my parents into being terrified of society outside the walls of their home. Thats just my point of view. Fuck 'er..
But you know who I hate even more...O'Reilly

BL - 6-23-2005 at 03:25 PM

I THOUGHT OF A GOOD REPLY FULL OF INTELLECT, FUCK THAT CUNT... SHE SHOULD HAVE MOVED TO VIETNAM IF SHE HAD BEEF WITH AMERICA... ACTORS SHOULD STICK TO DOING DRUGS AND SUCKING COCK!

CHEERS
BL

Killthehumans - 6-26-2005 at 04:06 PM

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Originally posted by juandiablo
I don't care for Jand Fonda either. I heard similar stories growing up from family and neighbors who were around or involved at the time of the Vietnom War. In fact, every so often I see those "Not Fonda Jane" bumper stickers.
For Barbara Walters, fuck her. Anything she had ever done has been watered down and never asks any real questions to these people. Shit didn't she do a Michael Jackson interview way back in the beginning of that crap. I seem to think she did OJ too.I have figured her job in the media is to keep scaring people 55 and over like my parents into being terrified of society outside the walls of their home. Thats just my point of view. Fuck 'er..
But you know who I hate even more...O'Reilly

bill orielly? if you mean him than yeah i want to punhc his smug ass in the face

JawnDiablo - 6-26-2005 at 10:11 PM

thats the one..needs a "canopener" ala american history X