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holy shit, this is a lot of bootlegs!

BDx13 - 1-4-2011 at 03:55 PM

http://www.negativereinforcementshirts.com/
http://stores.ebay.com/negativereinforcementfl

Is this the site that was discussed about 8-10 months ago?

MikeFromInhuman - 1-4-2011 at 05:11 PM

Dope shirts! I will be ordering :)

sentrand - 1-4-2011 at 05:13 PM

some of us have to buy bootlegs.

panzerkreuzer - 1-4-2011 at 06:23 PM

we discussed about them months ago, because he sells sheer terror and slapshot shirts.
but i still need this impact unit shirt.

XnMeX - 1-4-2011 at 06:57 PM

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Originally posted by panzerkreuzer
we discussed about them months ago, because he sells sheer terror and slapshot shirts.
but i still need this impact unit shirt.


It's one of those things where if you can't get it legit from the artist, do itI If not...

If I was an artist, I don't know what I would hate worse, if I made a shirt and it sold out and not some kid on eBay is making HUGE bank off of it, or some bootlegger is making them himself and making bank off of them.

spyderdog - 1-4-2011 at 09:34 PM

am i the only one who thinks this guy should be taken out and tarred and feathered?

we had a kid here in az doing this for a while.....needless to say he doesnt do it anymore

sentrand - 1-4-2011 at 09:49 PM

if more people/bands would make pre-orders available for shirts then i would buy from them. but most of the shirts i have are bootlegs. i need a 4xl. along the way some kick ass people/bands have made shirts available for me.


speaking of which my shirt and jacket have been mailed. i hope they get there in time and will work.

XHonusWagnerX - 1-4-2011 at 10:13 PM

I'm not against the occasional bootleg shirt for a band (or design) that you just cant get. I do have a problem with somone that seems to be earning an income selling hundredes of bootlegs and some of them are active bands!

I mean seriously, who the hell would bootleg a Dropdead shirt!? they are active and super indie and they have TONS of designs they sell mailorder!

All that being said, I have some bootleg shirts that I wear.

XHonusWagnerX - 1-4-2011 at 10:15 PM

Also.... Its hard to pay the prices that some 'bands' or 'people' have put on their shirts. A while back I wanted a JFA shirt and to get one through the 'official site' was over $20, thats insane to me! Same thing for anyone that wants an SSD shirt. Al sells them on the XClaim site for $25! one color, single side shirt for $25?!?! insanity!

Jason the Magnificent - 1-5-2011 at 12:18 AM

It's not like this kid is getting rich of band "x"s shirt. I seriously doubt he's getting rich at all. But if he can make a couple bucks because he's organized enough to go through the effort to make shirts for bands X, Y, Z, A, G and F I'm not going to spend a whole lot of time feeling guilty about buying something from him if I wanted it.

I bet when you send this kid you $11 you get your shirt in a week, but if you sent the band/label $20 (similar to Honus' statement) you'd wait 3 months to get it in the wrong size.

I understand people from bands not wanting to get ripped off for their designs. They can easily solve it. Print the shirts themselves and sell them on eBay for .01 less.

XHonusWagnerX - 1-5-2011 at 09:45 AM

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Originally posted by Jason the Magnificent
I understand people from bands not wanting to get ripped off for their designs. They can easily solve it. Print the shirts themselves and sell them on eBay for .01 less.


Problem is that with some of those bands the shirts ARE available. Dropdead is the best example of that.

Johnny_Whistle - 1-5-2011 at 10:02 AM

Well whoever it is, they certainly know their Taang! Records bands. I mean, who's out looking for a Moving Targets shirt? I used to love those guys, but did they even sell shirts when they were together?

Jason the Magnificent - 1-5-2011 at 12:19 PM

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Originally posted by XHonusWagnerX
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Originally posted by Jason the Magnificent
I understand people from bands not wanting to get ripped off for their designs. They can easily solve it. Print the shirts themselves and sell them on eBay for .01 less.


Problem is that with some of those bands the shirts ARE available. Dropdead is the best example of that.


Unless those bands take action with him he's going to keep selling them. How many Dropdead shrits can that guy possibly be selling though. I'd guess he doesn't even have shirts made, just screens sitting there. seems like a lot of effort for a band to go through over 2 or 3 shirts possibly getting printed.

XHonusWagnerX - 1-5-2011 at 12:30 PM

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Originally posted by Jason the Magnificent

Unless those bands take action with him he's going to keep selling them. How many Dropdead shrits can that guy possibly be selling though. I'd guess he doesn't even have shirts made, just screens sitting there. seems like a lot of effort for a band to go through over 2 or 3 shirts possibly getting printed.


I got in touch with him about the Slapshot shirt a long time ago and he just ignored my emails and keeps selling it (or at least keeps offering it for sale). I actually mentioned to a few people about maybe doing a reprint of the 'Men are Men & the Meat is Red' shirt and they said why do that one, Negative Reinforcement already has it. That bummed me out because not only is it a bootleg, its a SHITTY bootleg!

I'm sure hes not making that much money on bands like Slapshot or Dropdead, but its just the whole idea of bootlegging active bands that I dont like.

Jason the Magnificent - 1-5-2011 at 01:11 PM

I agree, it's shitty...but what are you really going to do. You're basically going to spend dollars of your time fighting for pennies in the end. Then this guy has ripped off your ideas and your time.

Colin - 1-5-2011 at 01:54 PM

bought my Poison Idea shirt with a flyer drawing of a gigantic Pic Champion from this site, they've got some good shirts, lot's of which you can't find anywhere else. Fucked up the shipping, lost one in the mail then spaced out sending me the replacement, but I recieved a free Descendents shirt as well when I finally got it

lifeisabitch - 1-5-2011 at 03:31 PM

no comment

spyderdog - 1-5-2011 at 06:12 PM

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Originally posted by XHonusWagnerX
I'm sure hes not making that much money on bands like Slapshot or Dropdead, but its just the whole idea of bootlegging active bands that I dont like.


bingo!

or when its some shitty trust fund hipster douche trying to get beer money making warzone shirts

that was the last straw with the kid here

i can safely say i have never bought a bootleg shirt and i never will

you wanna try and make money selling band shirts? START A FUCKING BAND