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new dkm, "Going Out In Style" - 3/1/11

BDx13 - 1-14-2011 at 05:49 PM

New album coming soon!

http://dyingscene.com/news/dropkick-murphys-new-album-going-...


1. Hang ‘Em High
2. Going Out In Style
3. The Hardest Mile
4. Cruel
5. Memorial Day
6. Climbing A Chair To Bed
7. 1953
8. Deeds Not Words
9. Take ‘Em Down
10. Broken Hymns
11. Sunday Hardcore Matinee
12. Peg O’ My Heart
13. The Irish Rover

DAK - 1-14-2011 at 05:59 PM

:spin:

MattyA - 1-14-2011 at 08:59 PM

Kind of a weird title for an album, do you think it might be their last?

Discipline - 1-14-2011 at 09:36 PM

Hope it's good.

CR83 - 1-15-2011 at 01:00 PM

Hang 'em High? Weird, the Street Dogs have a tune on their last by that name.

XnMeX - 1-15-2011 at 03:21 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by MattyA
Kind of a weird title for an album, do you think it might be their last?


That's what I was wondering...

ShawnRefuse - 1-15-2011 at 03:29 PM

well we released Still in massachusetts a couple months before the State of Massachusetts. LOL

I am actually looking forward to this. I am hoping it may be a throwback.

morgan - 1-15-2011 at 04:49 PM

Looking forward to this.

Dave - 1-16-2011 at 03:52 PM

might be good. hopefully it is.

ShawnRefuse - 1-18-2011 at 07:11 PM

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Originally posted by BD

11. Sunday Hardcore Matinee




WTF?????

BDx13 - 1-18-2011 at 07:22 PM

i was wondering when you were going to catch that.

DAK - 1-18-2011 at 07:24 PM

:bigsmile:

ShawnRefuse - 1-18-2011 at 07:40 PM

took someone posting it on my facebook lol. But seriously....state of mass came out after "still in mass" now this...

people who don't know the timelines will think we are ripping them off.

Gonna have to make a video of ours quick.

BDx13 - 1-18-2011 at 09:17 PM

Ask those dudes you they're jocking your steelo so hard.

ShawnRefuse - 1-18-2011 at 09:27 PM

LOL. I can't even decipher that.

I am sure complete coincidence but, it makes us look like we are stealing their shit when we play out to new people. Can't tell you how many times we "sound like them" because of Still in Mass.

MattyA - 1-18-2011 at 10:01 PM

Shawn,your song sounds nothing like state of massachusetts. I actually like your song better than theirs anyway.

first track from the new album:

BDx13 - 1-18-2011 at 10:06 PM

http://www1.rollingstone.com/hearitnow/player/drop.html

Jason the Magnificent - 1-18-2011 at 11:33 PM

ooof.

Jason the Magnificent - 1-18-2011 at 11:37 PM

actually upon listening to the full track I'm going to say that's straight up terrible.

3rdDistrict - 1-19-2011 at 07:38 AM

what record label is this band on now?
dkm with Mike in DC at a pub when i was 15 was amazing. Now? meh

random - 1-19-2011 at 08:12 AM

They're on "Born and Bred," which is a vanity label from Warner. So... they're on Warner. And this just sounds like shitty pop punk with a tin whistle. The tin whistle doesn't offset the shittiness at all, and may even add to it, if only because you know it's considered "innovative."

Johnny_Whistle - 1-19-2011 at 09:36 AM

Don't mock the tin whistle, fuckers...

:ticking:

Mark Lind - 1-19-2011 at 12:43 PM

It looks like I'm in the minority here. I think it's a great song (though I agree that it's pop punk with a tin whistle). It sounds like a potential hit to me. Something needs to replace that Shipping Up to Boston song in their repertoire. Ken told me last night that Bruce Springsteen makes an appearance on the new record which is intriguing to me.

Born and Bred is their own label. There is a division of Warner that distributes records for bands that have gone independent. In all likelihood they probably manufacture and distribute and take a cut but it is an indie label for all intents and purposes; they call their own shots and could probably sign bands to their label if they came across the right artists. It's the same organization that Shadows Fall and Lucero are working with if I recall. You gotta be a big band to be involved in it though because (I think) they all foot the cost of their own advertising and of course the recording.

I can't remember the last time I heard a punk rock song that moved me on initial listen but this one really caught my ear. All of my favorite punk bands have been letting me down in recent years so I'm hopeful that I can be hopeful on this release.

JawnDiablo - 1-19-2011 at 01:41 PM

I'll get it when it hits.
Each record so far has had more stuff on it that I have liked than disliked

ShawnRefuse - 1-19-2011 at 02:09 PM

yeah I am not going to judge the record on this one song.

I am hopeful, and I actually like the idea that it is a concept album. They are at the point where they can have fun with shit and if it fails, they will go back to their roots and put out the next one with rocking songs.

I am not a fan of this song but it's the use of vocals that is throwing me off. The doubling up on a slow song feels out of place.

Then again I don't like the new Social D album for the same reason. I like things to be simple.

Discipline - 1-19-2011 at 02:20 PM

I think that song licks moose balls, fucking terrible. That said, I'll still buy the album cause they always have good songs. The only album they've done that I hated was Blackout.

panzerkreuzer - 1-19-2011 at 03:01 PM

i like the song. the first listening wasn´t great, but it grows with time.
i really enjoy it, although the vocals could be rougher.

BDx13 - 1-19-2011 at 03:38 PM

with the exception of the drums at the VERY beginning, if you played just the first 35 seconds for me, i'd swear that was a pogues song. there's just something about the banjo and the whistle and the cadence that sounds exactly like a pogues song (albeit one w/o shane singing).

BKT - 1-19-2011 at 03:40 PM

I don't think I need to tell anyone on here how much I love this band, but that song is fucking terrible. Worst shit I have ever heard from DKM. I really hope the rest of the album is a whole lot better then this crap.

BKT.

REV.PAULIE - 1-19-2011 at 03:52 PM

It's just Ken,and his fantasy of being a good singer...Does Al even have a purpose in this band? 'Fucking sick of this "Irish/American" sit down,and I'll tell you a tale,Laddie crap.

MikeResist - 1-19-2011 at 04:00 PM

The song is very meh. The doubling on the vocals doesn't work, IMO. But what do I know.

clevohardcore - 1-19-2011 at 04:33 PM

The song sounds decent. BUt what is up with Al hardly singing? I know they manage at least 1 song were he is barely on it, but they never made it a single.

clevohardcore - 1-19-2011 at 04:34 PM

:P my son wanted me to click one of the smile icons

random - 1-19-2011 at 04:38 PM

I think Paulie should start a polka punk band called Uppercut Jankowskis.

JawnDiablo - 1-19-2011 at 04:40 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by REV.PAULIE
It's just Ken,and his fantasy of being a good singer...Does Al even have a purpose in this band? 'Fucking sick of this "Irish/American" sit down,and I'll tell you a tale,Laddie crap.


haha yeah .
me having grown up in an Irish family never really saw what was so great / interesting about being so....bad skin, drinking problems, hand grenades etc

newbreedbrian - 1-19-2011 at 04:51 PM

Wow, after putting out a decent album for the first time in a long time this is not a promising followup so far. Beyond the instrumentation, I don't get a Pogues vibe from this song at all.

barc0debaby - 1-19-2011 at 06:21 PM

Flogging Murphys

Mark Lind - 1-19-2011 at 06:33 PM

Are we talking about the same song? The one I heard last night had Ken and Al singing in harmony throughout the whole song.

Discipline - 1-19-2011 at 06:59 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by REV.PAULIE
It's just Ken,and his fantasy of being a good singer...Does Al even have a purpose in this band?


That's been my complaint for a long time. I didn't mind Ken's vocals when it was just background stuff, but that dude should never be doing lead vocals. Why would he even want to when you have Al fucking Barr in the band. The Bruisers were and always will be a way better band than DKM.

clevohardcore - 1-20-2011 at 04:57 AM

I ain't hating on the song. I think it sounds good, but I think most issues may be had with the fact that this is DKM and people expect something else.

XnMeX - 1-20-2011 at 10:16 AM

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Originally posted by Discipline
The Bruisers were and always will be a way better band than DKM.


End of discusion! I don't care how many times it has been stated. It is true.

Mark Lind - 1-20-2011 at 10:57 AM

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Originally posted by XnMeX
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Originally posted by Discipline
The Bruisers were and always will be a way better band than DKM.


End of discusion! I don't care how many times it has been stated. It is true.


There's really no comparing the two. One was a virtually unknown underground rock n' roll band and the other is a juggernaut of be-shamrocked popularity. If as many people liked the Bruisers in 1998 that profess to have liked them today then he wouldn't have left the band for greener pastures (pun intended there!).

Jason the Magnificent - 1-20-2011 at 01:54 PM

Actually...as long as they share the same singer...you can.

Mark Lind - 1-20-2011 at 02:42 PM

Fair enough. Though I thought we already established that Al wasn't getting the role of singer that he deserves.

On what grounds do you begin to draw a comparison? Song quality? I suppose I would choose the Bruisers as the more timeless style of rock. I really like their songwriting. As far as recording quality and performance on the recordings go I will take DKM. The Bruisers were always on a very tight budget and often did things in one take and you can totally hear it. Al is out of key on pretty much all of those recordings but DKM have the luxury of spending quality time in the studio getting things just right. The live show goes to DKM because watching them is like watching a 3 ring circus complete with juggling pandas and midgets riding unicycles. The live experience goes to the Bruisers though because their shows had about 100 people there and they weren't all dickheads like you get at a DKM show. But the band lost its charm after Jeff and the other guys left and Al continued with a scab squad.

So my verdict is for the Cruisin for a Bruisin - Up In Flames era Bruisers.

Johnny_Whistle - 1-22-2011 at 04:58 PM

It's definitely a departure, but I wouldn't go as far as to say they're trying to be the Pogues. I don't know, it was okay. Not my favorite thing they've done, but it doesn;t make me want to hurt them or anything.

panzerkreuzer - 2-1-2011 at 04:55 PM

another song to stream. i like it a lot. the refrain is catchy as fuck.
http://www.altpress.com/features/entry/exclusive_stream_drop...

BKT - 2-1-2011 at 05:19 PM

Now that is more like it. Great song and I am going to throw a chair through a window this St. Paddys day to this song and then puke on myself. I love being Irish.

BKT.

BDx13 - 2-1-2011 at 05:34 PM


ShawnRefuse - 2-1-2011 at 05:58 PM

I like this one better, but enough with the multiple vocals throughout the songs, both Kenny and Al can sing well enough to carry themselves.

clevohardcore - 2-1-2011 at 06:26 PM

O wow, that song is good.

BKT - 2-1-2011 at 06:26 PM

Here is some info about Bruce Springsteen joining them on a track off the new album.

http://www.actionrecon.com/2011/02/new-dropkick-murphys-song...

BKT.

tireironsaint - 2-1-2011 at 07:13 PM

That's more like it.

MattyA - 2-1-2011 at 10:46 PM

Definately alot better. Like Shawn said though the multiple vocals are kind of annoying. Wish Kenny would let Al sing by himself.

Mark Lind - 2-1-2011 at 11:24 PM

This one is more par for the course with these guys. It gives the people what they want. I liked the other song better.

bombidol - 2-3-2011 at 04:09 PM

I like the Murphys and they are all nice fellas. The Irishness grates a little bit when you are actually Irish but its easily gotten over.

panzerkreuzer - 2-25-2011 at 03:00 PM

music approved by a banana is a blogspot dot com worth to check out and then grab some beer and have fun...

random - 2-25-2011 at 06:38 PM

album is very formulaic, though ken would say it's just them "finding their sound." think "sing loud, sing proud" but more poppy/traditional... at least, that's all it has me thinking. only song that sticks out to me is "deeds not words."

Discipline - 2-25-2011 at 10:39 PM

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Originally posted by random
album is very formulaic


A perfect way to describe the album. Only one or two tracks really caught me. It'll probably grow on in time.

clevohardcore - 2-26-2011 at 05:32 PM

I just picked it up and on my second listen. ITS FUCKING AMAZING! It has a couple mello songs but they are really good and have the usual gang vocals that jam. The fast shit is great as expected.

MattyA - 2-28-2011 at 09:45 PM

It's a lot better than I expected, song with Springstein is pretty good too.

morgan - 3-1-2011 at 01:59 AM

Going to see if I can't find this tomorrow. Haven't heard any of it yet though. I've learned that even if I'm not really into a particular DKM album, it grows on me with time.

Mark Lind - 3-1-2011 at 09:56 AM

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Originally posted by Discipline
Quote:
Originally posted by random
album is very formulaic


A perfect way to describe the album. Only one or two tracks really caught me. It'll probably grow on in time.


I haven't heard the record yet (it should arrive in the mail today) but a band like this is in a tough spot. If they up and offer something new then people don't like it. If they deliver the same thing again then people don't like that either. I can't really think of many bands that successfully pulled off a major sound overhaul that didn't alienate some people. Rancid's "Life Won't Wait" comes to mind as a successful venture.

clevohardcore - 3-1-2011 at 01:41 PM

BESTBUY will have it for $7.99

BDx13 - 3-1-2011 at 01:55 PM

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Originally posted by clevohardcore
BESTBUY will have it for $7.99

Thank you!
their site is sold out, but my local store has them in stock.
$8 for a CD will actually get me to make the purchase.

Discipline - 3-1-2011 at 02:01 PM

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Originally posted by Mark Lind
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Originally posted by Discipline
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Originally posted by random
album is very formulaic


A perfect way to describe the album. Only one or two tracks really caught me. It'll probably grow on in time.


I haven't heard the record yet (it should arrive in the mail today) but a band like this is in a tough spot. If they up and offer something new then people don't like it. If they deliver the same thing again then people don't like that either. I can't really think of many bands that successfully pulled off a major sound overhaul that didn't alienate some people. Rancid's "Life Won't Wait" comes to mind as a successful venture.



I get what you're saying. I look at DKM as being two different bands. There was the (superior) McCoglan DKM, and the Barr DKM. I prefer the first incarnation based purely on the style they played. Since Al joined the band, the only record I disliked (or hated passionately) was Blackout. The Gang's All Here was good, but it seemed as they were trying to drift in a more aggressive style. Thankfully it worked. Sing Loud... was a bit too poppy at times, but still an amazing album. The Warrior's Code blew me away, I thought it was an amazing album, as did The Meanest of Times. Just trying to add perspective to why I judged the new album the way I did. To me it sounds like they phoned it in. It didn't grab me right from the start like most of the others did. It really sounded like some of the generic paddy-punk that seems to be coming out all the time from copycat bands.

BKT - 3-1-2011 at 05:03 PM

As is to be expected I loved the album. My favorite album to date however is Gangs All Here.

Here is the review of the new record :

http://www.actionrecon.com/2011/03/dropkick-murphys-going-ou...

BKT.

Mark Lind - 3-1-2011 at 07:14 PM

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Originally posted by Discipline
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Originally posted by Mark Lind
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Originally posted by Discipline
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Originally posted by random
album is very formulaic


A perfect way to describe the album. Only one or two tracks really caught me. It'll probably grow on in time.


I haven't heard the record yet (it should arrive in the mail today) but a band like this is in a tough spot. If they up and offer something new then people don't like it. If they deliver the same thing again then people don't like that either. I can't really think of many bands that successfully pulled off a major sound overhaul that didn't alienate some people. Rancid's "Life Won't Wait" comes to mind as a successful venture.



I get what you're saying. I look at DKM as being two different bands. There was the (superior) McCoglan DKM, and the Barr DKM. I prefer the first incarnation based purely on the style they played. Since Al joined the band, the only record I disliked (or hated passionately) was Blackout. The Gang's All Here was good, but it seemed as they were trying to drift in a more aggressive style. Thankfully it worked. Sing Loud... was a bit too poppy at times, but still an amazing album. The Warrior's Code blew me away, I thought it was an amazing album, as did The Meanest of Times. Just trying to add perspective to why I judged the new album the way I did. To me it sounds like they phoned it in. It didn't grab me right from the start like most of the others did. It really sounded like some of the generic paddy-punk that seems to be coming out all the time from copycat bands.


Ok. I'm 3 songs in. So far I wouldn't call it formulamatic because they're trying some new stuff within the songs but the overall outcome does just sound like more Dropkick Murphys to me. So in that regard it may be seen as following a formula. I'm seeing it more as like Mexican food.... it's all the same in the end but sometimes it's just prepared a little differently.

My understanding is that Rick Barton wrote Do or Die, The Gangs All Here and Sing Loud Sing Proud (even though he isn't credited on the album). I agree that Blackout is the worst and I credit that to being a new bunch of guys trying to write. Warrior's Code is my favorite and I think they found their stride again on that one and The Meanest of Times was just sort of a continuation of that. I have no opinion on the new one yet and I probably won't listen to it much. I continue to support them because they've done so much for me so I'll always buy their records but I can't relate to their words in the least bit. They sing all about these family values and traditions and stuff and that crap is just alien to me and my life experience. Knowing Ken his lyrics do plainly represent his background and his world view so I respect the fact that he is able to express himself in a way that connects with so many people but I'm just not one of those people anymore.

I gotta disagree with the old band vs the new band thing though. I used to think that if they kept Mike then they would have been bigger. I'm now convinced that they would have fizzled out quickly if they kept him. So he needed to go. The band since then has developed into something that is beyond me but they must be doing something right to keep getting bigger and bigger. I'd love to see them score the #1 record on the Billboard charts. That would really cap off this charmed life they've had as a band.

EDIT: I'm sure it's cool to do nothing and get a paycheck but Ken really needs to let Al try singing a song again once in a while.

JawnDiablo - 3-1-2011 at 07:35 PM

I can't get into it.
I find Irish stuff annoying and I'm half Mick.

BKT - 3-1-2011 at 07:43 PM

Funny. Blackout is one of my favorite DKM albums and Warriors Code is probably my least favorite.

BKT.

Mark Lind - 3-1-2011 at 07:59 PM

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Originally posted by juandiablo
I find Irish stuff annoying.


Same here.

Discipline - 3-1-2011 at 09:17 PM

Show respect to The Pogues and Stiff Little Fingers damn you!!!!!!!:smilegrin:

JawnDiablo - 3-1-2011 at 09:24 PM

not into them one bit either.
sorry
20 Bulls Each however am Irish but aren't killing me with flutes for 45 damn minutes.

I grew up with plenty of that goofy pretend culture around me from my dad's family and all the Irish immigrants I drank in bars with.
I had enough

to each his own.

I liked the early stuff 10 times better and I don't think I am copping the OG thing at this point in my life.

JawnDiablo - 3-1-2011 at 09:24 PM

20 Bulls Each rule

Mark Lind - 3-1-2011 at 09:37 PM

I like U2, Thin Lizzy and Stiff Little Fingers. Those bands are really Irish. It's the American ones that seem to go for the doodly-doos.

Discipline - 3-1-2011 at 10:01 PM

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Originally posted by juandiablo
20 Bulls Each rule


Most definitely. Now if Thorp would just get around to releasing their new album I'll be really happy.

BDx13 - 3-2-2011 at 03:00 PM


panzerkreuzer - 3-2-2011 at 03:16 PM

i enjoyed it a lot.
is mac greevys worth visiting?

MattyA - 3-2-2011 at 05:20 PM

McGreevey's is actually a pretty good bar, they play a lot of punk music and it's not blasting threw the place so you can actually hear people talking to yoFood pretty decent too.

BKT - 3-2-2011 at 05:52 PM

Great video and I want to get drunk at that bar asap.

BKT.

panzerkreuzer - 3-2-2011 at 05:56 PM

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Originally posted by BKT
Great video and I want to get drunk at that bar asap.

BKT.


i´ll join.

clevohardcore - 3-3-2011 at 05:37 AM

This album is fucking awesome.