Tom Cruise is an entertaining fellow

BDx13 - 6-27-2005 at 12:08 PM

I don't think he means to be this funny, but that motherfucker has been cracking me up the past few weeks.

First, the whole Katie Holmes thing (in general) and the freak out on Oprah (specifically). Then his reaction after getting squirted with water on the red carpet in London. And now the psychiatry thing with Matt Lauer. This guy is a cracked nut! He MUST be boys with Michael Jackson. The wildest part is that I don't even watch that much TV or follow mainstream entertainment media, and I still can't get away from this guy!

http://www.freekatie.net/

BDx13 - 6-27-2005 at 12:11 PM

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/322208p-275490c.html

Tom a pill on TV
By TRACY CONNOR
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Is "War of the Worlds" star Tom Cruise lost in space?
The superstar Scientologist flipped out on the "Today" show yesterday, pompously lecturing Matt Lauer about the evils of psychiatry - and scolding actress Brooke Shields for taking anti-depressants.

"You don't know the history of psychiatry," the actor arrogantly told the newsman. "I do."

Cruise, 42, was on the NBC morning show to talk about his upcoming sci-fi flick and his quickie engagement to ing?nue Katie Holmes, 26.

But the interview took a bizarre turn when Lauer questioned Cruise on critical comments he's made about Shields and her memoir about overcoming postpartum depression.

Cruise defended his claim that Shields was wrong to take depression pills to cure a crippling case of the baby blues after the the birth of her daughter.

"The things I'm saying about Brooke is that there's misinformation, okay?" he said.

"And she doesn't understand the history of psychiatry. She doesn't understand in the same way that you don't understand it, Matt."

The high school dropout launched into a diatribe about mental illness - calling psychiatry a "pseudoscience" and anti-depressants "very dangerous."

He insisted there's no such thing as a chemical imbalance and argued that mood disorders can be cured with "vitamins, exercise and various things."

He didn't say whether one of those things is Scientology, the religion that says humans are plagued by the souls of dead aliens who invaded the planet 75 million years ago.

Cruise interrupted and cut off Lauer as he tried to present the other side of the argument.

"Matt, Matt, Matt, you don't even - you're glib," he said.

With a $128 million movie riding on his popularity, Cruise's attack on Shields and well-established science could be risky business.

Coupled with his over-the-top courtship of Holmes, it could be the biggest career misstep since fellow Scientologist John Travolta made "Battlefield Earth."

His proselytizing is also angering psychiatrists who fear the Hollywood top gun could undo decades of work to remove the stigma from mental illness and psychiatric treatment.

"The illnesses we treat - anxiety, depression - are very real illnesses," said Dr. John Scully, medical director of the American Psychiatric Association.

"The treatments work. We have demonstrated that through robust scientific study."

Cruise's views on psychiatry are so extreme and devoid of scientific proof, "it's a little like talking to somebody who claims the world is flat," Scully said.

Dr. Margaret Spinelli of the New York Psychiatric Institute's maternal mental health program said, "science at every level" has demonstrated that postpartum depression stems from a chemical imbalance that medication can correct in 80% of the cases.

"Brooke Shields did a great service for women by writing the book and talking about her illness," Spinelli said. "She should be getting praise, not pushed down for it."

Shields' publicist could not be reached for comment but after Cruise's first swipe at her last month, she issued a statement calling his remarks "outrageous."

"Tom should stick to saving the world from aliens and let women who are experiencing postpartum depression decide what treatment options are best for them," she said.

MORNING SHOWDOWN

Excerpts from Tom Cruise's faceoff with NBC's Matt Lauer about Brooke Shields' battle with depression and psychiatric drugs like Ritalin:

Lauer: Tom, if she said that this particular thing helped her feel better, whether it was the antidepressants or going to a counselor or psychiatrist, isn't that enough?

Cruise: Matt, you have to understand this. Here we are today, where I talk out against drugs and psychiatric abuses of electric shocking people against their will, of drugging children with them not knowing the effects of these drugs. Do you know what Aderol is? Do you know Ritalin? Do you know now that Ritalin is a street drug? Do you understand that?

Lauer: Aren't there examples, and might not Brooke Shields be an example, of someone who benefited from one of those drugs?

Cruise: All it does is mask the problem, Matt. And if you understand the history of it, it masks the problem. That's what it does, that's all it does. You're not getting to the reason why. There is no such thing as a chemical imbalance.

Lauer: But aren't there examples where it works?

Cruise: Matt, Matt, Matt, you don't even - you're glib. You don't even know what Ritalin is. If you start talking about chemical imbalance, you have to evaluate and read the research papers on how they came up with these theories, Matt, okay? That's what I've done.

moron - 6-27-2005 at 12:31 PM

I honestly had no idea that Scientology was based on the idea that aliens invaded earth. Weird.

Is that different from Christian Scientists? I think that's what theyre called.

BDx13 - 6-27-2005 at 12:59 PM

they're different. The Church of Christ, Scientist - Scientology

I get the impression that the Christian Science Monitor is considered to be a respected source of journalism, but I'm not really sure what it's relationship to the religion is.

http://www.religioustolerance.org is a great resource on different religions. I go there every now and again to read about different beliefs.

Todd - 6-27-2005 at 01:01 PM

The world would be a much less safe place if people stopped taking their medications. This guy offends me to the fucking core. It's a shame that there are people who will listen to this retard and stop taking their meds. Most of the things I say on this board are pretty tongue in cheek but this guy seriously needs to shut his mouth.

moron - 6-27-2005 at 01:02 PM

Some teacher in high school raved about how the Christian Science Monitor is a great un-biased source for news.

BDx13 - 6-27-2005 at 01:03 PM

does anyone else know anything about the Christian Science Monitor?

gavin - 6-27-2005 at 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Todd
The world would be a much less safe place if people stopped taking their medications. This guy offends me to the fucking core. It's a shame that there are people who will listen to this retard and stop taking their meds. Most of the things I say on this board are pretty tongue in cheek but this guy seriously needs to shut his mouth.

took the words right outta my mouth
hes all jacked up on scientology or whatever
he dosent know what its like in the real world dealing with real world stuff
tool

moron - 6-27-2005 at 01:04 PM

oh shit. so all of those people in the Times Square station offering "free stress tests" are followers of Scientology? Fucking stress test my ass. Theyre just trying to peddle their "Dianetics" book.

BDx13 - 6-27-2005 at 01:06 PM

L Ron is a pimp's name.

also...
http://tcruiseko.ytmnd.com/

moron - 6-27-2005 at 01:10 PM

a lady in my office stopped taking her meds for depression and she "decompensated" (I guess that's the proper term) and ended up in the hospital for a month or so. I think she might have had some other mental health problem though. She was having a little paranoia. She's been on medical leave since May, and she's finally coming back next month.

yeah... people are fine without their meds.

Todd - 6-27-2005 at 01:41 PM

Take it from me, for some of us life would be a living hell without the help of medications and the kindness of some of the people in the medical community. This guy is so fucking offensive to me. Let him spend a nice 30 days in a psychiatric hospital or a night in a busy psychiatric ER like New York Hospital, and it would make him so fucking sad. I've had the fortune to be on both sides of this topic, as a patient and a medical dude, and nothing makes me sadder than seeing someone broken in this kind of way.

Todd - 6-27-2005 at 01:42 PM

Oh yeah, MrMoron, decompensated is the actual medical term we use in the hospital to describe soemone that has fallen aprt. 10 medical brownie points to you

BDx13 - 6-27-2005 at 01:52 PM

how many scene points can moron convert them to?

this part was AMAZING...
"mood disorders can be cured with 'vitamins, exercise and various things.' "
VARIOUS THINGS?! LIKE MEDICATION?!

moron - 6-27-2005 at 01:53 PM

How about having sex with babies? I hear that cures AIDS. Or at least that's what some people in Africa think...

Todd - 6-27-2005 at 02:04 PM

I don't believe there is any system of conversion from medical to scene points. One system is very, very cool, while the other....negativenegativegrumblegrumble...

Todd - 6-27-2005 at 02:08 PM

I was so fired up about this the other day that I visited this very informative site: http://www.xenu.net/ . I'm absolutely crazed about this shit. I know people who would no longer be here if it weren't for the wonders of pharmaceuticals and more importantly I know many people who may still be here if they had had the benefit of psych meds.

Todd - 6-27-2005 at 02:09 PM

I'm breaking with tradition and awarding moron 1000 scene points and a chance to sleep with the starlet of his choice. Sorry mrs. moron, but those are the rules.

KyleOz - 6-27-2005 at 03:56 PM

Until he has a doctorate and dedicated years of his life studying psychiatry and the effect of these medications, he should stick to dancing around in his underwear or feeling the need for speed.

moron - 6-27-2005 at 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Todd
I'm breaking with tradition and awarding moron 1000 scene points and a chance to sleep with the starlet of his choice. Sorry mrs. moron, but those are the rules.

this has to be the best day of my life.

KyleOz - 6-27-2005 at 04:09 PM

Purchase Terror Shorts and Pink Shirts Moron

Discipline - 6-27-2005 at 04:39 PM

I remember hearing a story about L. Ron Hubbard years ago. A guy was telling me that Hubbard liked sex with underage girls. He also said something about Hubbard laying in bed with his dick in a 14 year old girl for like six hours for some strange reason that escapes me at the moment. There's a Scientology place here in Toronto and this guy was warning people passing by about the evils of the Churh Of Scientology. I was like 15 at the time. All in all, kinda creepy. I'm not saying what the guy is true, but that's the first thing I ever heard mentioned in regards to scientology.

Todd - 6-27-2005 at 06:12 PM

hey moron (i always feel weird calling you that), i'll send the paperwork over and we'll have you a starlet by the weekend. my suggestion, even though it's far from original, is angelina jolie. i would chop off limbs just to sit in the same room as her. you will also win "starkweather went to europe and all i got was this lousy t-shirt" longsleeve. enjoy

clevohardcore - 6-27-2005 at 07:01 PM

THe founder of Scientology was a failing FICTION writer before he founded the religion. This really hurts anyones stance on a more respected religion.