Jamey Jasta Thank You Sale?

CR83 - 4-26-2011 at 10:48 PM

http://www.jameyjasta.com/thankyou/

This is odd to me. I don't want to talk shit on this guy. He seems like he is a really nice dude who helps out tons of bands. He's also been VERY nice to me when just meeting him at shows.

This is just odd to me. An 8x10? Signed? Weird

morgan - 4-26-2011 at 10:57 PM

Band shirts and related stuff is one thing but selling shirts and other assorted stuff with just your name seems kinda weird to me.

Six66Mike - 4-26-2011 at 11:07 PM

lol buy your way into the liner notes? That seems pretty retarded. I'm in a few from Ontario bands that I helped in some way but I would have never thought to buy my name into it haha. Ridiculous.

It just seems there wasn't enough money in the bank to finish this or what?

ShawnRefuse - 4-26-2011 at 11:58 PM

Kickstarter idea.

REV.PAULIE - 4-27-2011 at 05:06 AM

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Kickstarter idea.

Exactly...Did their contract expire/get dropped? Or,just decided to try to keep all the money for themselves? It's really not a bad idea,especially if you have the fanbase.

XHonusWagnerX - 4-27-2011 at 07:51 AM

The only band Ive been included in the liner notes by is Thy Will Be Done who have 2 records out on Stillborn Records, but I didnt have to pay to get in there.

Discipline - 4-27-2011 at 09:20 AM

Stupidity

clevohardcore - 4-27-2011 at 09:22 AM

Seems pretty lame if ya ask me. Everything about it.

Mark Lind - 4-27-2011 at 09:49 AM

He's a celebrity in the metal scene so he can pull this off.

clevohardcore - 4-27-2011 at 01:38 PM

Its fucking weak and pathetic and makes my desire to jam HATEBREED that much more less. It's a shame because that band jams.

XnMeX - 4-27-2011 at 02:07 PM

I wonder if I submited a name like Jamey "Jasta is a ball gargling homo" Smith if it would make the cut...

ShawnRefuse - 4-27-2011 at 04:43 PM

I don't see the problem, if people want to do it, let them. I was thinking about it for my side project. A lot of bands are doing it so they can release independently. I think the 8x10s are a bit much, but everything else seems fine to me.

Kenny Bania - 4-27-2011 at 05:13 PM

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Originally posted by XHonusWagnerX
The only band Ive been included in the liner notes by is Thy Will Be Done who have 2 records out on Stillborn Records, but I didnt have to pay to get in there.

not true. we thanked you on death of a salesman. 4 people saw it.

barc0debaby - 4-27-2011 at 07:24 PM

Hudson Falcons did the same thing. Except they were asking for $30 donations.

3rdDistrict - 4-28-2011 at 07:14 AM

on this local messageboard i post on, we discussed submitting our screen names
dont know why, but it seemed funny

XHonusWagnerX - 4-28-2011 at 07:49 AM

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The only band Ive been included in the liner notes by is Thy Will Be Done who have 2 records out on Stillborn Records, but I didnt have to pay to get in there.

not true. we thanked you on death of a salesman. 4 people saw it.

damn, I apologize... either I didnt read it or I forgot, but now I got 2 bands! Wooo Hoooo!!

XHonusWagnerX - 4-28-2011 at 07:51 AM

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Originally posted by ShawnRefuse
I don't see the problem, if people want to do it, let them. I was thinking about it for my side project. A lot of bands are doing it so they can release independently. I think the 8x10s are a bit much, but everything else seems fine to me.

I totally support it for indie bands, but it seems like Jamie should have enough money to put out a record or could find a lable to put it out insted of selling autographs.

Mark Lind - 4-28-2011 at 08:23 AM

You can't fault a dude for selling autographs if there is a demand for it. The fact is that people probably buy them. I mean..... I saw this dude's band play at the Causeway in Boston to about 10 people years ago so I'm not getting in line to have one. But I have got in line to have Paul Westerberg sign something. For some odd reason this guy is like Paul Westerberg to Hot Topic kids.

XHonusWagnerX - 4-28-2011 at 08:36 AM

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Originally posted by Mark Lind
You can't fault a dude for selling autographs if there is a demand for it. The fact is that people probably buy them. I mean..... I saw this dude's band play at the Causeway in Boston to about 10 people years ago so I'm not getting in line to have one. But I have got in line to have Paul Westerberg sign something. For some odd reason this guy is like Paul Westerberg to Hot Topic kids.

but did you have to pay to have Paul Westerberg sign something?

I know its super nerdy, but I like autographs. I also understand C level people selling autographs at conventions and stuff... maybe Jameys just not as big as he seems and he needs the money.

XnMeX - 4-28-2011 at 08:51 AM

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Originally posted by XHonusWagnerX

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Originally posted by Kenny Bania

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Originally posted by XHonusWagnerX
The only band Ive been included in the liner notes by is Thy Will Be Done who have 2 records out on Stillborn Records, but I didnt have to pay to get in there.

not true. we thanked you on death of a salesman. 4 people saw it.

damn, I apologize... either I didnt read it or I forgot, but now I got 2 bands! Wooo Hoooo!!

3 "bands"...

Six66Mike - 4-28-2011 at 08:55 AM

See I didn't (and still don't) see anything on the page about signed autographs. Paying to have your name in the thank you section of the liner notes is all that caught my eye, cheesy to the end and pretty much pisses on everyone who actually did something to deserve a thanks or credit.

XHonusWagnerX - 4-28-2011 at 09:10 AM

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Originally posted by Six66Mike
See I didn't (and still don't) see anything on the page about signed autographs. Paying to have your name in the thank you section of the liner notes is all that caught my eye, cheesy to the end and pretty much pisses on everyone who actually did something to deserve a thanks or credit.

http://martyrstore.com/product/jasta-very-special-thank-you-...

Johnny_Whistle - 4-28-2011 at 09:31 AM

We did this with the last CD because we were running out of money. But our approach was to pre-sell the CD, and those who ordered it got thanked in the liner notes. They also got the free bootleg as a bonus. I still have a box full of headshots from my standup days, hmmmmm...I think I may have just found a solution to my rent problem... :singing:

clevohardcore - 4-28-2011 at 11:20 AM

The autograph is one thing but TO BE IN THE LINER NOTES? That is for someone who has helped them or inspired them. Not for people to pay to be on. It cheapens the liner note idea.

Mark Lind - 4-28-2011 at 11:54 AM

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Originally posted by clevohardcore
The autograph is one thing but TO BE IN THE LINER NOTES? That is for someone who has helped them or inspired them. Not for people to pay to be on. It cheapens the liner note idea.

Yeah. It's knd of weird. Hudson Falcons did the same thing. I paid the $30 because I want to have a new album by them and support them. But I don't want them to list my name in the liner notes.

As related, I feel like most bands thank people and other bands to name drop them. It certainly helped me discover some new bands when I was a kid but I really could do without those ever again.

My favorite mention I got in a liner notes was in the first Unseen CD. They wrote "Thanks to Mark and his Ducky Boys". Boy, did that piss off the other guys in my band at the time. But perception is everything and it was evident to the Unseen that they were just enjoying a free ride on the back of my labors so fuck them. :lol:

XnMeX - 4-28-2011 at 12:24 PM

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http://martyrstore.com/product/jasta-very-special-thank-you-...

This was $20 yesterday and its $10 today. SALE!!!

CR83 - 4-28-2011 at 08:08 PM

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I wonder if I submited a name like Jamey "Jasta is a ball gargling homo" Smith if it would make the cut...

Probably would. I may be worth the $5

SS76 - 4-28-2011 at 08:20 PM

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It certainly helped me discover some new bands when I was a kid

liner notes in my cassettes were the ONLY way I discovered new bands. Nobody I knew listened to good music. I think what Jasta's doing is cool.

CR83 - 4-28-2011 at 09:49 PM

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Originally posted by SS76

It certainly helped me discover some new bands when I was a kid

liner notes in my cassettes were the ONLY way I discovered new bands. Nobody I knew listened to good music. I think what Jasta's doing is cool.

I did that too. I thought I was the only person to figure this out. I was not a smart kid.

XnMeX - 4-28-2011 at 10:17 PM

I was soo tempted to do this and just have them list "Thorp Warriors" just to fuck with everyone here going "Who did that???" but I figure I will put that $5.00 towards BD's dimes instead. Would have been funny...

JawnDiablo - 4-28-2011 at 10:53 PM

hatebreed is gay

BDx13 - 4-28-2011 at 11:14 PM

Jamie thanked Thorp in a few Hatebreed releases way back when.

Though the idea of taking out an ad for $5 is pretty funny.

ShawnRefuse - 4-29-2011 at 01:22 AM

this is my last post in here, because it doesn't really warrant anymore time or thought, lol. BUT......

It's not like he is selling "advertising space" or saying "these bands are good". I am sure it's going to be a list of "Thanks to all the people who made this album possible with donations towards the record: blah blah blah"

(I don't love hatebreed - I did like Jasta 14 better lol)

clevohardcore - 4-29-2011 at 02:58 AM

Paying to be on a thanks list is weak and desperate. That being said if that is how its done between bands then I am really really surprised. I thought thsoe were for the most part genuine thank you lists.

Colin - 4-29-2011 at 06:20 AM

Hatebreed is my least favorite metal band

Jason the Magnificent - 4-29-2011 at 08:08 AM

I don't see how this is any worse than a band/label funding their release of pre-orders.

XHonusWagnerX - 4-29-2011 at 08:32 AM

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I don't see how this is any worse than a band/label funding their release of pre-orders.

cause if I pay $10 for a preorder so they can get money to fund the record then I'm getting a copy of the record for my money. In this case, I send money, the record comes out and then I still have to pay for the CD.

Jason the Magnificent - 4-29-2011 at 09:07 AM

True. I forgot people still actually buy the CD's too. =)

Discipline - 4-29-2011 at 12:30 PM

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Originally posted by CR83

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Originally posted by SS76

It certainly helped me discover some new bands when I was a kid

liner notes in my cassettes were the ONLY way I discovered new bands. Nobody I knew listened to good music. I think what Jasta's doing is cool.

I did that too. I thought I was the only person to figure this out. I was not a smart kid.

Liner notes were how I discovered a lot of the bands I like.

random - 4-29-2011 at 03:21 PM

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Originally posted by Jason the Magnificent
I don't see how this is any worse than a band/label funding their release of pre-orders.

For one, you don't get a copy of the album when it's released here, which I think is stupid, which means the liner notes will be, "Here's a list of people who provided the funds to make this album, but they still have to drop $20 to get a copy like the rest of you."

Hudson Falcons asked for money and gave the thanks in the liner notes, but they also sent a copy to anyone who contributed. And I see a big difference between a band like the Falcons who are, or at least were, on the road for most of the year with low cover charge at the door asking for monetary support to record a new album and the guy who hosted (hosts?) Headbangers Ball and been in hugely successful bands (and who did or does own his own label) basically begging for money in exchange for an autographed photo who STILL won't send you a copy of the album you helped cover the production costs for.

But that's just me.

clevohardcore - 4-29-2011 at 03:50 PM

It's weak and is making me even more annoyed the more I think about it. Thats not what I thought it was all about back in the day. When I bought 7"s or various cassettes or cd's I always thought check out thank lists for new bands or reps. I never thought they are only listed because of cash. I thought that shit was out of respect. Way to make something important very, very cheap Jasta. Twist it however ya want it sucks and is weak.

Colin - 4-29-2011 at 04:22 PM

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Originally posted by clevohardcore
Thats not what I thought it was all about back in the day. When I bought 7"s or various cassettes or cd's I always thought check out thank lists for new bands or reps. I never thought they are only listed because of cash. I thought that shit was out of respect.

definitely weak in my opinion

BDx13 - 4-29-2011 at 10:30 PM

lemme bottom line this for ya...
fewer and fewer people buy music these days.
why? everyone fucking steals it.
so...bands, labels, promoters, everyone involved in what is left of this business is trying whatever they can to not loose their shirt on a release, a show, a tour, whatever it is.

clevohardcore - 4-30-2011 at 12:41 AM

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Originally posted by BD
lemme bottom line this for ya...
fewer and fewer people buy music these days.
why? everyone fucking steals it.
so...bands, labels, promoters, everyone involved in what is left of this business is trying whatever they can to not loose their shirt on a release, a show, a tour, whatever it is.

^^^^^^ Everything concerning the music industry seems pretty fucked.

DaveMoral - 4-30-2011 at 11:07 AM

To me this is just a sign of how many more steps removed Hatebreed is from being a hardcore band and in the hardcore scene. Jaime may release records by hardcore bands for hardcore kids, he may kick it with his DMS buddies all the time. But Hatebreed is now a metal band, complete with pyrotechnics on stage, and this is his current scheme to fund their record and dupe the chumps that think his name has any meaning what so ever.

I'd pay $2 for a signed picture of his hand that has no thumb...

Colin - 4-30-2011 at 12:01 PM

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Originally posted by DaveMoral
DMS

as I've never liked Madball....I won't even comment on how I feel about what this whole thing has become

necrobutcher - 4-30-2011 at 12:35 PM

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Originally posted by Blackout Colin
Hatebreed is my least favorite metal band

BDx13 - 4-30-2011 at 01:39 PM

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Originally posted by DaveMoral
I'd pay $2 for a signed picture of his hand that has no thumb...

wait.
what?

JawnDiablo - 4-30-2011 at 01:46 PM

Hatebreed's gay