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old engagement traditions

moron - 6-30-2005 at 02:52 PM

So, traditionally a man asks his prospective fiancee's father for permission to marry his daughter, right? Is this still the norm? How many people here have done that or will do that when it's time to pop the question?

I didnt ask for permisson simply because I think it's stupid. My girlfriend isnt her parent's property, so it just seems silly to ask permission. Even if they said no, would that stop the two of us from getting married? Doubt it.

BDx13 - 6-30-2005 at 03:29 PM

well, i did it. i actually made a trip down from NYC specifically to ask. and even though i had known her dad for years by then, it was still kinda scary.

i think this has definitely become just that - a tradition. obviously she's not her parent's property, but it's a nice thing to do. it kinda gives the parents their last chance to impart any parental advice to the daughter... like "this guy calls himself moron, are you sure that's what you want to do?"

back in the day when you HAD to ask, if the father said no, you had a lot of work to do! a friend of mine told me that when his dad went to ask his mother's father for permission (back in the 60s), the guy asked him how much he made. apparently it wasn't enough, cause he told him, "come back when you make more". eventually he made more, and the father gave his blessing. how wild is that?!

BDx13 - 6-30-2005 at 03:29 PM

and by the way, i FULLY expect to be asked before someone marries my daughter.

Discipline - 6-30-2005 at 03:40 PM

Will you be holding a shotgun when they do?

gavin - 6-30-2005 at 03:42 PM

my wife dosent know her dad
i wouldnt ask him anyway
fuck him

moron - 6-30-2005 at 03:45 PM

Im by no means intimidated by my girlfriend's father. I did ask her if she thought her father would be insulted if I DIDNT ask, and she didnt think he'd care. No offense, but I think it's a tradition that should die. Just like engagement rings. Fuck that. They cost so much money, and Mrs. Moron's mother doesnt even wear hers anymore. I told my lady that if I bought it for her she'd better wear it. haha I didnt pay whatever it cost for it to sit in a jewelry box.

And what's up with the seemingly dead tradition of the woman buying the man a watch for their engagement. If Im buying a ring for her, I wouldnt mind a watch. Of course, I didnt get one. I was robbed.

gavin - 6-30-2005 at 03:51 PM

i aint askin anyone for shit
fuck all that

KyleOz - 6-30-2005 at 03:57 PM

I will buy you a timex that lights up in the dark moron.

You will be the talk of the office. Turning off the lights then pressing that button that says light. They will be mesmerized.

BDx13 - 6-30-2005 at 04:08 PM

wait a minute, i didn't get a watch. i want my light up watch, damit!

CR83 - 6-30-2005 at 04:09 PM

It was important to me, my wife and my wife's father for me to ask. I can see both sides of it but for me it was very important. My father-in-law is a Marine from the Southside of Boston. He's very pround of that and proud of how tough he is/was. Tradition is important to them and I can fully respect that. We are now the best of Friends. For his 63rd birthday I took him to see .38 Special and Skynyrd and got him wasted. He framed his ticket. Means a lot.

I know what you are thinking and the answer is "Yes, I'm a huge piece of white trash".

moron - 6-30-2005 at 04:09 PM

my mickey mouse watch stopped working so buy me a new one, kyle.

the wedding industry is a mult-million (possibly billion?) dollar machine. It's kind of disgusting. People get so hung up on having a great looking wedding or whatever and they forget what it really means. Some traditions are cool. Stag parties and bachelor parties are awesome. haha and Im rambling.

moron - 6-30-2005 at 04:11 PM

I understand how it can now be considered respectful to ask a woman's father for her hand in marriage, but it just seems to archaic to me.

BDx13 - 6-30-2005 at 04:37 PM

hey man, it's your wedding. the only person you need to please is your new wife. to me, part of getting married is celebrating the new union. we celebrated the shit out of our new union! there were a good number of people (125) and it was pretty formal (for a non-relogious ceremony) and quite tasteful, but at the same time it was a fucking blowout, and that's exactly what we wanted. do what makes you happy.

moron - 6-30-2005 at 04:48 PM

Yeah. Our minimun is 125, but my family is so small we're gonna invite tons of friends. I hope everyone has a good time, because that's all I want.

sinister - 6-30-2005 at 05:29 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by MrBadVibes
i aint askin anyone for shit
fuck all that


Right on. My bad attitude with shit like that is probably why I'm single though. HAha.

SAAAAARS - 6-30-2005 at 06:23 PM

i don't think it matters to my dad but i think it is sweet to talk to the dad/parents first. and whenever i get married, it's definitely going to be the least expensive wedding ever. i don't understand why people spend sooo much on weddings when they are just starting out a life together. there are many more important things to do with that money.

thedog - 6-30-2005 at 10:34 PM

i plan on doing it.
i think it just shows respect.

gavin - 6-30-2005 at 11:07 PM

i only show respect to people who have earned it
im not one of those people who think someone automaticly deserves respect lust because of who they might be
fuck that
if they show it to me, then i show it back

i also find the asking premission thing kind of subservent in a weird way
im having no part of that

like i would hope everyone in my wifes family was happy that i was marrying her and all
but if they were not, oh well
fuck 'em

RomanticViolence - 6-30-2005 at 11:18 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SAAAAARS
i don't understand why people spend sooo much on weddings when they are just starting out a life together. there are many more important things to do with that money.


I hear ya on that one!

JawnDiablo - 7-1-2005 at 01:07 PM

i was engaged once, and didnt ask, didnt ever think to either. for the most part i didnt like her family in the first place, but fuck it, i never got married. a good thing too because it woulda costed more to get the impending divorce ha!
some of the best weddings i have been to have been totaly low brow places like VFW halls and such. the right people, music and plento of booze and its good
the best one bay far was a non religious 5 minute ceremony at this WW2 memorial place right outside of W Philly in Wynwood. tons of food,beer and a warm atmosphere of everyone having a good time. plus there was an elvis impersonator, and the DJ played reverend horton heat, and suicidal, by request at the end of the evening.....i was well fed, liquored up and in a good mood....