greatest hardcore/punk band of all time

gavin - 6-30-2005 at 08:01 PM

who do youz go with?
over all if i havta pick one, im going with BLACK FLAG
close seconds to...
negative approach
dead kennedys
bad brains

serenity - 6-30-2005 at 08:12 PM

blood for blood. the band that has meant the most to me through the years and still do.

lyrics that symbolizes my frustration, despair and hatred towards everything living

Todd - 6-30-2005 at 08:51 PM

Articles of Faith, Black Flag, Bad Brains. It's kinds like trying to choose between Angelina Jolie and _________________ (insert beautiful starlet here).

JawnDiablo - 6-30-2005 at 09:07 PM

i'll have to think on this one
i have a bunch of beer and hundreds of cds...ill be back in a few hours with an answer

gavin - 6-30-2005 at 09:26 PM

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Originally posted by serenity
blood for blood. the band that has meant the most to me through the years and still do.

lyrics that symbolizes my frustration, despair and hatred towards everything living

blood for blood is by far the best of the "newer" hardcore bands
no doubt
great great band
the reason i find them to be so good is cuz they are true to what i believe is hardcore/punk
like the bands i mentioned
there aint nuthin nice about them
and thats a good thing

Discipline - 6-30-2005 at 10:37 PM

Agnostic Front

followed closely by
Negative Approach
Madball
Dead Kennedy's
Murphy's Law
Cro-Mags

JawnDiablo - 6-30-2005 at 10:41 PM

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Originally posted by MrBadVibes

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i'm glad i'm not the only one who thinks that....

thedog - 6-30-2005 at 10:41 PM

very hard to pick.

sick of it all
is definitely up there though

bystanderfanzine.com - 7-1-2005 at 12:13 PM

Zee Cro-Mags, all other answers are misinformed.

Ungodly - 7-1-2005 at 12:19 PM

I would say Black Flag, Bad Brains, Cro-Mags, and Minor Threat. I can't get it down any further.

Cro Mags would be the alpha male of the group if I wasn't considering genre purity, but I hear enough metal in them that it kind of evens it out for me.

newbreedbrian - 7-1-2005 at 12:29 PM

flag were definately the most influential. they were the first ones to tour every little shithole in the country. imagine how many bands were started after flag hit their town. as far as best, that's pretty tough. kinda like asking what the best set of titties are...

BL - 7-1-2005 at 02:20 PM

XJUD JUDX WAS THE GREATEST BAND PERIOD!

CHEERS
BL

Todd - 7-1-2005 at 03:47 PM

Alright, I'm throwing my final vote to Black Flag. If you read "Get In The Van" by Rollins, and you subtract a few points for some alleged storytelling, you still realize that these are the psychopaths, as someone mentioned earlier, that paved the way and turned hardcore from a bunch of isolated but friendly scenes into a national scene.

It also makes sense to remember that there wasa time when playing this music, or even listening to it, was a very dangerous proposition and these brave motherfuckers put there nuts on the line every night, played to hostile crowds, with hostile bands, and never gave up. At one show in Denver in the early 80's, some smartass nazi skinhead (of which Denver had MANY) was holding up a sign at Rollins that said "Denver skins, the few, the proud, the nazi's" and what did Rollins do? He said "give me your biggest, toughest skinhead and the rest of you step away. He proceeded to kick the shit out of a very tough motherfucker. Hard to imagine it's the same guy but you can't top something like that.

rubeboy - 7-1-2005 at 03:53 PM

Yeah, you have to give credit to Black Flag. DIY hardcore wouldn't be the same without them. Although my favorite HC band is still Negative Approach

GabeTexasGAMC - 7-1-2005 at 04:11 PM

hahaha
jud jud were funny.

Black Flag, Cromags, SOIA, DK. all great bands...

SAAAAARS - 7-1-2005 at 06:57 PM

i don't think there is enough love in me to describe the way i feel about the cromags and black flag

gavin - 7-1-2005 at 07:07 PM

age of quarrel was a great album
still is
BUT everythinbg else is total crapeven if you like it, you have to admitt it is nowhere close to the level of black flags stuff
no way

Jason the Magnificent - 7-1-2005 at 08:22 PM

greatest band of all time. period.

forsaken - 7-1-2005 at 10:31 PM

POISON DA WELL

LOLZLLLOOZOZOZOZLZ

nah, probably hitlist

Discipline - 7-1-2005 at 11:23 PM

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Originally posted by MrBadVibes
age of quarrel was a great album
still is
BUT everythinbg else is total crapeven if you like it, you have to admitt it is nowhere close to the level of black flags stuff
no way

You can't forget Best Wishes.

cary thrasher - 7-1-2005 at 11:56 PM

that's a really hard question.

clevohardcore - 7-2-2005 at 08:03 AM

too hard to even think about but the answer may be very easy.

It's SICK OF IT ALL and with MURPHYS LAW in second

tireironsaint - 7-2-2005 at 04:43 PM

Negative Approach
Poison Idea
Sheer Terror
The Fix

Black Flag was amazing until Rollins joined. The combination of his personality and Ginn's "experimenting" ruined that band for me. Has anybody ever read the interviews with Greg Ginn where he talks about how full of shit Rollins is and that almost all the shit Rollins wrote about how hard his life was is complete bullshit? Fuckin' priceless. That and when Rollins was doing all those ads for the Gap still cracks me up to this day.

Discipline - 7-2-2005 at 04:48 PM

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Originally posted by tireironsaint
Negative Approach
Poison Idea
Sheer Terror
The Fix

Black Flag was amazing until Rollins joined. The combination of his personality and Ginn's "experimenting" ruined that band for me. Has anybody ever read the interviews with Greg Ginn where he talks about how full of shit Rollins is and that almost all the shit Rollins wrote about how hard his life was is complete bullshit? Fuckin' priceless. That and when Rollins was doing all those ads for the Gap still cracks me up to this day.

If you listen to some of Rollins spoken word he makes his childhood sound like life in Mayberry. It wasn't till he joined Black Flag and moved to LA and experienced life there that he turned into a dick.

tireironsaint - 7-2-2005 at 04:56 PM

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That's actually what I'm talkin' about. The time after he joined Black Flag. Foe example, he says all this shit about how he lived in a shed behind Greg's parents' place, but Ginn says it was actually a converted garage that his dad used as an office and it had AC, carpeting, everything you could want in a place you were living in FOR FUCKIN' FREE. Anyway, that's just one example of what I'm talkin' about. I actually kinda liked Henry back when his last name was Garfield and he had a band called S.O.A. I think his ego just grew bigger than the world when he joined Black Flag.

JawnDiablo - 7-2-2005 at 08:15 PM

BL - 7-3-2005 at 07:50 AM

GOD DAMN IT... WHEN WILL YOU GUYS LEARN. XJUD JUDX WAS THE SICKEST AROUND. ABOUT ALL THE ROLLINS JIVE, HE WAS THE SHIETIEST SINGER FOR BLACK FLAG...

CHEERS
BL

Todd - 7-3-2005 at 12:14 PM

I agree that Flag were better vocally before Rollins, but Damaged is still one of the gnarliest records ever recorded. There's also no denying that Rollins as a vocalist was still better than 99.999999999999999999999% of the turds pouting into a microphone these days.

This isn't a defense of Rollins' tall stories but those must have been HARD times touring on the Damaged and My War albums. America was not ready to have those freaks invade their hometowns and they did it anyway.

Seeing the Rollins band perform 'Gun In Mouth Blues' live in Philly is almost, but not quite enough, to erase the Gap commercials, the overblown stories, and the MTV appearances. Almost.

gavin - 7-3-2005 at 12:26 PM

ill say this much
i went and say rollins and keith morris do the black flag thing a few years ago for that west memphis 3 thing
it was UNREAL
im serious
it could not have been better

then, a few months later, ginn claims he is having a one time black flag reunion in L.A.
hyped it up, the whole 9 yards
who did it end up being?
ginn and robo
fuck greg ginn
henry was right about him all those years
yes henry did lame shit and still does im sure
i saw the rollins band for the first time in 1988 at city gardens
to this day its still one of the best shows i ever saw

its easy to come down on henry and i know he deserves most of it
BUT damaged and my war rule
and if ya think he had all that much to do with the direction flag took, you are wrong
ginn was calling all shots

tireironsaint - 7-3-2005 at 08:23 PM

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Originally posted by MrBadVibes

and if ya think he had all that much to do with the direction flag took, you are wrong
ginn was calling all shots

Yeah, I know Ginn was really the one behind the direction Black Flag went in, but the combo of his music shit and Rollins attitude (like I said before) is what makes me leave Black Flag off any and all top band lists. They really shoulda just packed it in when Rollins joined or maybe just afterwards.