Thoughts on NORWAY...

In fact more Police in Norway don't even carry hanguns, because the people feel they "threaten too much". It's extreme left wing.

Most countries Police don't carry guns, and it's not considered a result of left wing politics. That's a whole different debate.

In anycase this guy lost the right to have any poltical view as a justification as soon as he killed his first victim.

JawnDiablo - 7-25-2011 at 11:45 AM

In fact more Police in Norway don't even carry hanguns, because the people feel they "threaten too much". It's extreme left wing.

Most countries Police don't carry guns

really?
is it more a gun crazy American thing then?

mattybar - 7-25-2011 at 12:28 PM

i thought the UK was the only place that didn't carry guns.
we do have 'armed response units' now anyways as it's really not that difficult to get guns here if you know where to look.

if you ever come to London and see the red police cars and vans - those are the guys with guns. all the others just carry cs gas, extendable batons and in some cases tazers but that's still a grey area i think.

clevohardcore - 7-25-2011 at 12:35 PM

In fact more Police in Norway don't even carry hanguns, because the people feel they "threaten too much". It's extreme left wing.

^^^^^ Then what is it about? Why else would a Cop not carry a gun unless the public is out of its mind and feel threatened because of some left wing ideology? It makes no sense to me to have a cop without a gun. Why even show up to a domestic violence call which is most Law Enforcement calls without one?

clevohardcore - 7-25-2011 at 12:38 PM

In fact more Police in Norway don't even carry hanguns, because the people feel they "threaten too much". It's extreme left wing.

Most countries Police don't carry guns

really?
is it more a gun crazy American thing then?

^^^^^^^Gun crazy America? Because Law Enforcement are armed? Na, man that is protection from the criminal elements while defending the rights of the law abiding public.

GavBE - 7-25-2011 at 12:57 PM

In fact more Police in Norway don't even carry hanguns, because the people feel they "threaten too much". It's extreme left wing.

It's not necessarily my opinion, just fact. Most people in Europe for example, bar a few countries like Switzerland, don't have guns. So if the police come to a domestic violence call they don't need to bring guns, they have non-lethal weapons with them, batons etc. I don't think there is any left wing ideologies involved. Just no need for them to be armed. Remember people over here in Europe aren't used to seeing guns in every day circumstances, and not everybody trusts the police, so some people would feel uncomfortable if the police were armed.

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with you, just trying to explain.

mattybar - 7-25-2011 at 01:02 PM

dude, not picking an argument or anything but as i said above, i don't know of any other country in Europe where the police don't carry guns except the UK, and some of our police DO carry guns.
whenever we get bomb/terror threats (which is quite often) it's not unusual to see cops in body armour with machine guns walking around.

Mark Lind - 7-25-2011 at 01:11 PM

Just watch Bowling for Columbine and it will explain the gun thing. It's entertainment first but it does offer some startling facts in the course of its presentation.

Evidently this guy in Norway was trying to protect the country from being overrun by Islam. He blew up the bomb and shot the kids to get media attention for his cause. Mission accomplished cuz people all over the world are talking about it.

Nationalism is an absurd and out of date concept in the global era. World War 2 Germany was big on nationalism. We all know how that went.

GavBE - 7-25-2011 at 01:30 PM

dude, not picking an argument or anything but as i said above, i don't know of any other country in Europe where the police don't carry guns except the UK, and some of our police DO carry guns.
whenever we get bomb/terror threats (which is quite often) it's not unusual to see cops in body armour with machine guns walking around.

Regular police in Europe don't carry guns. Most Euro countries have a two tiered system, with the regular rozzers not armed, and various elite or special units which are armed. France, Italy etc have this system. Irish police aren't armed. There are specialist armed units that can be called out. Not arguing that this is a good or bad thing. Just a difference between say US and Europe or Russia, or China etc.

Johnny_Whistle - 7-25-2011 at 02:04 PM

Not only was he a despicable human being, he was a plagarist to boot.

mattybar - 7-25-2011 at 02:26 PM

never been to Ireland so can't say about that really but every time i see police abroad, they have handguns. i honestly can't remember not ever seeing cops with guns abroad.
it's one of those things that reminds me i'm not at home anymore.

i guess i may have just seen these elite forces but i dunno.

i remember being in Greece and our apartment was next to the local police station. every night we watched them playing cards, smoking cigars and drinking ouzo with their handguns on the table.

JawnDiablo - 7-25-2011 at 05:25 PM

In fact more Police in Norway don't even carry hanguns, because the people feel they "threaten too much". It's extreme left wing.

Most countries Police don't carry guns

really?
is it more a gun crazy American thing then?

^^^^^^^Gun crazy America? Because Law Enforcement are armed? Na, man that is protection from the criminal elements while defending the rights of the law abiding public.

that's sarcasm Clevo, live it love it learn it

JawnDiablo - 7-25-2011 at 05:27 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Mark Lind

Just watch Bowling for Columbine and it will explain the gun thing. It's entertainment first but it does offer some startling facts in the course of its presentation.

Evidently this guy in Norway was trying to protect the country from being overrun by Islam. He blew up the bomb and shot the kids to get media attention for his cause. Mission accomplished cuz people all over the world are talking about it.

Nationalism is an absurd and out of date concept in the global era. World War 2 Germany was big on nationalism. We all know how that went.

that's kinda where I was getting my quirp from......but cops ned guns round here...this Philly area...killadelphia

jonnynewbreed - 7-26-2011 at 08:21 AM

I was upset to find out that he is or was at some point in his life a Freemason which is an order dedicated to doing good by your fellow man, not murdering children.

M.Alki - 7-26-2011 at 08:55 AM

That's pretty odd, Greece and most of Cyprus, I would guess 80% of the police force do not carry guns as standard but then I am going from experience a good few years back there so that may have changed.
As far as I was aware Holland, Germany and places like that it's rather uncommon to see armed police although I will say Spain is somewhere I have seen it a lot.

In England the only place you will standardly see armed police is at the aiport, around government buildings or at Matty said if there has been some sort of bomb scare or national threat then they will sometimes have them patrol for a limited period of time but even then I wouldn't say that would be particularly common outside of London.

Discipline - 7-26-2011 at 09:31 AM

Criminals are armed, so I'm glad the cops are too.

Mark Lind - 7-26-2011 at 01:28 PM

If they aren't mass producing guns at a rate that everyone can have one then neither the criminals nor the cops will have them or need them. One would think the human race has advanced enough to know that we don't need weapons to kill each other.

clevohardcore - 7-26-2011 at 04:05 PM