Buffet tax rule shot down by richest 1%

Completely unrelated, well kinda, but I think I might buy a few guns......

^^^^^^ Not a bad idea.

yup

Jason the Magnificent - 4-18-2012 at 05:45 PM

The main reason the rich can "steal" our money is because the best we can do is send out disorganized protests that peter out after a few months and make posts about it on the internet.

They'll buy politicians, they'll lobby their money into more money and we'll start facebook campaigns. I'd steal our money too.

clevohardcore - 4-18-2012 at 07:54 PM

The main reason the rich can "steal" our money is because the best we can do is send out disorganized protests that peter out after a few months and make posts about it on the internet.

They'll buy politicians, they'll lobby their money into more money and we'll start facebook campaigns. I'd steal our money too.

^^^^^^^ O the humanity. No really, this seems to be a common thread in humanity.

DaveMoral - 4-18-2012 at 09:47 PM

Facebook campaigns can be pretty powerful if you can translate into boots on the ground. I mean, that's what they say happened with Egypt right?

The #1 problem we have in this country is that the whole damn lot of us are complacent and apathetic and it has largely to do with the fact that we are well fed(even if much of the "food" isn't really feeding us... just making us fat, sick and weak), and really well distracted with TV, movies, video games and internet drama and bullshit.

Jason the Magnificent - 4-18-2012 at 10:11 PM

Yes Egypt.

We had facebook campaigns here too that helped fuel the Occupy fire to a large degree. Look how far that flash in the pan got people.

We're not Egypt. We cant even figure out how to get off the fucking couch.

clevohardcore - 4-18-2012 at 10:44 PM

^^^^^ 100% agree. Our food, quasi broke luxury lifestyles are empty and weak. We feel like we are getting ahead but we are weak from debt, guilt and stress. Bled dry by empty promises and hope that our country is really ours. After years of corporate bailouts, empty words and the common person being left out. Were do you go? What avenue do you seek to regroup and start fighting the good fight for common man? Who starts it?

Colin - 4-19-2012 at 01:17 AM

Quote: Originally posted by sentrand

Completely unrelated, well kinda, but I think I might buy a few guns......

^^^^^^ Not a bad idea.

yup

DaveMoral - 4-19-2012 at 07:28 AM

Yes Egypt.

We had facebook campaigns here too that helped fuel the Occupy fire to a large degree. Look how far that flash in the pan got people.

We're not Egypt. We cant even figure out how to get off the fucking couch.

That's just what I'm saying. We simply don't feel desperate enough to just not give a fuck.

Tunisia, Egypt, Syria, Bahrain etc. Those people are hungry for change and it takes a whole hell of a lot more to get them off the streets than a few hundred gallons of pepper spray and a billy club. People gave up their lives, and that didn't stop 'em.

It's either we are not in such a dire situation as it would appear we are, or our oppression is so natural to us that we think it's normal and should be normal. How many of us are straight up brainwashed or so broken down by the shit that we are convinced that we can't change a damn thing?

Hell's bells, in Europe when people want change they riot. In some countries they take to the streets even when it will cost them their lives. What do we do here? A bunch of our weakest people take to the streets and have drum circles, get the shit kick out of 'em by the police and then condemn the Black Bloc for fighting back.

The myth of rugged individualism that comforts us at night is such a sham. We are a nation of people that bows to authority mostly without question.

Jason the Magnificent - 4-19-2012 at 08:40 AM

Couldn't agree more.

JawnDiablo - 4-19-2012 at 08:52 AM

right.

but then again, this whole 1% / 99 % deal is nothing new.
It has always been.
It is just hyped more witht he aid of the internet, in a time where this country is in a fucked state.

But like I said, I don't have the time to go out and get tear gassed by cops with a bunch of squatters cuz I have to go to work every day to pay my bills and tcob for my family.
my life is actually pretty fucking good.

clevohardcore - 4-19-2012 at 08:57 AM

For one thing we are so completely divided. How is it that we have one group so fucking blind to the fact that we are being fleeced? I was one of them. The sheep following and hanging on every word by the right. Look I am conservative in my ideals and always will be but I am so frustrated with the lies, bullshit and deceit. How is it that the one group that preaches so matter of fact that FREE MARKET, KEEP GOVERNMENT OUT OF BUSINESS, SINK OR SWIM, DON'T TAKE A HANDOUT, and SUCCESS IS BASED ON YOUR ABILITY AND NOT WHAT IS GIVEN TO YOU is the right way. They were the first to stand in line and be given money. Basically threatening our government to give them the bailouts or else the country suffers. HOW THE FUCK IS THAT POSSIBLE? And how the fuck is it possible that we sat back and allowed it without supporting the people first?

The division is this. We still have mouth breathers who support the right wing bullshit of FREE MARKET, LESS GOVERNMENT AND LESS TAXES FOR THE WEALTHY. FREE MARKET HEALTHCARE. They are the first assholes to tell the sheep to support them and fight the fight, but who is really benefiting from those empty promises? The rich. It's like everyone ignores what went down in 2008 and 2009.

clevohardcore - 4-19-2012 at 09:05 AM

President Obama was just at a Community College in the city I live yesterday. He stated that it is good that school like that get people the education to work, I'm fucking unemployed with a degree and haven't had a fucking call from a single application since being laid off in November. And there is so many more just like me just in my county. HOW THE FUCK DO YOU PRAISE THIS TOWN WHEN SO MANY ARE SCARED, BROKE AND CONFUSED? Now today Romney will be in Lorain one town over and trying to rally the troops on his side. At of all places a small manufacturing business that pays low wages, but has been boasting profits. WAKE UP!

Johnny_Whistle - 4-19-2012 at 09:07 AM

or our oppression is so natural to us that we think it's normal and should be normal.

If you try to toss a frog into boiling water, he'll jump right out. If you put him in cold water and increase the heat gradually, he'll sit there and boil to death.

We're not sheep, we're frogs

clevohardcore - 4-19-2012 at 09:13 AM

O and yesterday was the same day I got a letter saying that my PELL GRANT will expire and because of changes in the law I will no longer be able to receive it. WHAT AM I GOING TO DO? I'm unemployed, and can't pay to finish the rest of my education because I have no savings. I am up to my eyeballs in student loans and barely have enough to cover any future classes. So how do I finish my education, to get the training, to get that job Mr. Obama? We are all sheep, or as j whistle just said, frogs.

JawnDiablo - 4-19-2012 at 10:07 AM

Clevo, i thought you were a Police officer?

And yeah man I hear ya on all you just wrote above.

the lines are not clearly drawn.

I think the conservative / liberal deal is just a way of identifing oneslelf and insulting the other.

The whole"I am more conservative then thee" argument is laughable.
I am only able to type in fragments as I am sneaking on at work in a minimised wndow trying not to get sleauthed.....

but make no mistake, I am pretty fed up just with hearing these politicians speaking

Colin - 4-19-2012 at 10:28 AM

Quote: Originally posted by JawnDiablo

I think the conservative / liberal deal is just a way of identifing oneslelf and insulting the other.

it sure is a great way to keep people busy quarreling with each other over stupid shit while the rats get fat

Jason the Magnificent - 4-19-2012 at 11:01 AM

Bingo.

Keep us worried about who can marry who and fighting over crumbs while they rob us blind.

clevohardcore - 4-19-2012 at 03:20 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JawnDiablo

Clevo, i thought you were a Police officer?

And yeah man I hear ya on all you just wrote above.

the lines are not clearly drawn.

I think the conservative / liberal deal is just a way of identifing oneslelf and insulting the other.

The whole"I am more conservative then thee" argument is laughable.
I am only able to type in fragments as I am sneaking on at work in a minimised wndow trying not to get sleauthed.....

but make no mistake, I am pretty fed up just with hearing these politicians speaking

^^^ Laid off over a year now. Took a job with a hospital then over 70 of us got laid off in November 2011. Went back to school and stressing the fuck out. This area has way too many people vying for a job and those that have one ain't giving them up. Departments that are hiring are hiring 1 maybe 2 at a time. When your competing with over 100 at a time and sometimes 300+ with the same or more qualifications, it kind of sucks. I recently applied in another state and may apply in two others. It's tough.

clevohardcore - 4-19-2012 at 03:25 PM

Also, if your thinking cops are ultra conservative liberal haters, you'd be surprised. I know I was when I started working. Then again it was liberal art college town so.

DaveMoral - 4-19-2012 at 03:47 PM

It's crazy that one party tells us, to our faces, that they straight up want shit to be like it was leading up to the Great Depression. They'd get rid of the New Deal if they thought they could pull it off. And the worst part of it is that so many in the very economic bracket that would be devastated by that, votes Republican. That blows my fucking mind.

Not that the Democrats are truthfully any better, that do all the same shit on the sly. Oligarchy is just getting more and more entrenched again.

The Robber Barons are back with a vengeance.

JawnDiablo - 4-19-2012 at 04:00 PM

. And the worst part of it is that so many in the very economic bracket that would be devastated by that, votes Republican. That blows my fucking mind.

I have been thinking something like this too.
It's like they hate the poor so much yet are like 2 paychecks away from being on nearly that same level.

Hey anyone ever hear that Song called Just Look Around by some band called Sick Of It All?.....

DaveMoral - 4-19-2012 at 05:23 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JawnDiablo

. And the worst part of it is that so many in the very economic bracket that would be devastated by that, votes Republican. That blows my fucking mind.

Haha! Right?

DaveMoral - 4-19-2012 at 05:25 PM

Also, if your thinking cops are ultra conservative liberal haters, you'd be surprised. I know I was when I started working. Then again it was liberal art college town so.

I don't think cops are ultra conservative liberal haters, I think they are people in roughly the same tax bracket I am just doing what they need to provide for their families. Unfortunately, they often get into a pack mentality in protest situations...

clevohardcore - 4-19-2012 at 10:40 PM

Well that is the job they signed up for. That's the issue. To keep law and order. That is assuming those breaking the law or disorder are in the wrong. However it would be very strange to see a scenario where the people rebel against the government that is oppressing them and some of those keeping law and order may decide its for the best.

DaveMoral - 4-20-2012 at 10:42 AM