Why is it so damn important that the Shuttle Launches? I am interested in science and space (yes, I'm a nerd) but we as a country seem to spend so
much fucking money on the space program, what do we actually get from it? It employs a lot of people but why is space exploration so important?
Seems to me spending on outher "domestic" issues would be more important. I did hear MRI technology came from the space program but what else?
Anyone know?XHonusWagnerX - 7-26-2005 at 04:07 PM
I really dont care at all anymore.... I was cool like the first 3 times, now its not even inreresting at all unless it blows upCR83 - 7-26-2005 at 04:08 PM
Oh shit, I wasn't expecting that. Nice input man.KyleOz - 7-26-2005 at 04:10 PM
I agree with you there. A lot of money is thrown into these programs but I don't see many results. I want to see someone on the moon in MY lifetime.
Also I am not expert and will probaby get proved wrong with this query, but why hasn't nasa utilized nuclear energy instead of relying on fossil fuel.
I think a lot could be accomplished if they made the switch. It would last longer.
I'd figure we have a moonbase by now, I feel cheated. Also where the fuck is my flying car?XHonusWagnerX - 7-26-2005 at 04:14 PM
I wasnt saying the 'blowing up' thing to be rude. I dont want anyone to die in a shuttle explosion. I just ment that its the only time I even pay
attention to it.CR83 - 7-26-2005 at 04:22 PM
Honus, I totally understand. Make sense. Kyle, what do you mean by fossil fuel? It is my understanding that rockey fuel is a Hydrogen and Oxygen
mixture vs a petroleum. Jesus, I'm nerdy.KyleOz - 7-26-2005 at 04:24 PM
I meant on the launchpad when they actually send the shuttles out. I thought those canisters that fall off are all petroleum based?
I never knew that about the shuttle hydrogen and oxygen...who would have thought.moron - 7-26-2005 at 04:38 PM
yeah... no fossil fuels used. I dont think they pack enough punch to get that shit off the ground.CR83 - 7-26-2005 at 04:55 PM
Moron, I believe you are correct.BDx13 - 7-26-2005 at 05:14 PM
when i was watching this morning, they said the shuttle, while still attached to the rockets, was traveling at 900 miles per hour, and that was a
little less than a minute after take off. amazing.
anyway, i'm kinda surprised... you guys seem to be thinking a little short-sightedly! (ok, that might not be a word.) "Space, the final frontier",
yo!
1. get into space and put a man on the moon. check.
2. research, research, research. check.
3. international space station. check.
4. private flights into space. check.
where's all this going? private enterprise, new business opportunities, military supremacy, space colonization, etc, etc... i know a lot of it is
still fantasy and wishful thinking, but i'm sure our government doesn't want another nation gettign to this stuff first. since it's inception, space
oriented milestones have been a huge competition among countries.Discipline - 7-26-2005 at 05:22 PM
Space shit is a waste of fucking money. The money spent on NASA in one year could buy textbooks for all the schools that don't have enough, and feed,
house, and clothe most of the homeless in the US. Or they could use the money to pay teachers, cops, firemen, paramedics, etc. what they actually
deserve. That money could be spent in so many better ways that actually do something worthwhile to help people who need it. Who the fuck cares about
pictures of the surface of Mars?defstarsteve - 7-26-2005 at 05:32 PM
the govermemt shouldn't fund it, I mean our tax dollars, while there are such huge econimic problems right now...
just more gloss and shie I guess to make you feel good....
it should be private enterprise doing all the work....
but then you have idiots with lots of rocket fuel, and a building in a county they don't like....
or just an untrained asshole who loses control of the thing and lots of innocent people get smoked
the private corporation would just write it off as a loss and say they were sorry and it's back to business as ususal...
tough topic
I want to go to space in my life time
but I do think we need beter propulsion systems
if I ever had the time I'd go back to school for studies in electromagnetic energyhollymaconmovies - 7-26-2005 at 05:42 PM
Nerd Alert.
I don't have a problem with space exploration. Yes, there are things right here on earth the money could go towards, but let's pool those resources
from other frivolous uses. Space exploration has actually resulted in a number of handy things we use every day. Think satellites: TV, radio,
internet, GPS, search and rescue, phone, radio. We have to have an understanding of space to put those satellites up there and maintain them.
Also, as earth is a part of a galaxy, I would have to think that learning more about our galaxy and those beyond it could help us gain a greater
understanding of the world in which we live.
That and everything Big Duane said.defstarsteve - 7-26-2005 at 06:39 PM
I have no problem with space exploration, and wanted to be an astronaut as a child
just not on my dime, I think there are some responsible companies that should take over and let nasa more of a watch dog commission
and all the items you mentioned are important to this so called modern life, but they were developed by private industry, who had to sell the
equipment to nasa in order to get it off the ground...
nasa might have said hey we need a satellite, but jpl had to build it.
too much goverment control over space flights at the momentDAK - 7-26-2005 at 06:47 PM
word up DisiplineJawnDiablo - 7-26-2005 at 07:06 PM
theres a boat load of better things to spend billions of dollars instead of space shit
i dont feel like making a list
but i think you guys know what i meanBDx13 - 7-27-2005 at 07:30 AM
i have no idea what the US govt spends on NASA and space research, i'm sure its a huge sum, but i'm also sure that there are plenty of other programs
they could be scaled back in addition to better fund education or civil services.vince - 7-27-2005 at 08:14 AM
Plus we need to find another planet to move to one all the ice melts here and everything gets flooded.BDx13 - 7-27-2005 at 08:36 AM
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Plus we need to find another planet to move to one all the ice melts here and everything gets flooded.
personally, i think this planet will become too hot to inhabit before we get flooded out, but yeah... i'm in the market.vince - 7-27-2005 at 08:53 AM
I read something about the ice melting yesterday. They had pictures from the early 70's and today and there was a big difference between the two
pics. They also said that the ice helps to reflect the heat so the fact that it is dissapearing compounds the problem.RomanticViolence - 7-27-2005 at 10:01 AM
I love posts like these!. I think space travel is awesome!.CR83 - 7-27-2005 at 10:40 AM
Everyone has some great points. I was very narrow minded in listing technology we use in everyday life. Pushing the limits on technology to gain
things like Satelites, phones, GPS... My main question is does this space program warrant all the spending vs. other social programs that in my
opinion are more pressing? I say this after readung everyone's posts too. Man, you all have awesome views on this shit. Space technology and images
and knowledge is vastly interesting to me but I know I could go without it to help our country here on the ground.Ungodly - 7-27-2005 at 11:04 AM
I'm not too interested in this launch until I see what they learn from it, because they aren't doing anything particularly new that I know of.
Exploring space is one of the most profound and meaningful things man has ever done and it has yielded and confirmed so much knowledge it's
ridiculous, some practically useful and some not, or maybe not yet- we don't know. There is so much we don't know. If we stop testing the bounds of
human knowledge and ability, we really are doomed.
I'm not interested in getting us to inhabit other places so we can mess them up too (in fact the idea sickens me as much as the overdevelopment now of
the rural area where I grew up) and I don't care if the projects will ever directly benefit me in any way. I think it's a bigger issue than that,
even bigger than some societal problems.
I agree have practical pressing human needs that need money and I agree, too, that space exploration is not the best place to take from, and we HAVE
been scaling back the budgets drastically for it just like everything else lately.
Just my 2 cents. defstarsteve - 7-27-2005 at 10:55 PM
I don't want anyone taking my posts the wrong way
I love the idea of space exploartion, it has always been my dream (thanks mr. lucas)
just not with the governments hand in it...give the nasa funding to the working class and poor in projects that might actually work, or even pay off
some of the debt we have now...
we even have a trade deficit with mexico????
If the government would have been at kitty hawk we'd still be envious of birds to this day.
too much paper work not enough air time.
privatize it so we can all build our own ships and get the fuck off this rock
I have a bunch of new nerdy ideas I want to discuss with the class but I gotta run look for my new thread...
steve's silly inventionshollymaconmovies - 7-27-2005 at 11:24 PM
And as I stand here in defense of space exploration...they screw it up, yet again.
Yeah, keep up the exploration, the research etc., but maybe we do need some form of privatization to get it done right.
Quote from the article in the link:
"Pieces of debris tore away from the shuttle Discovery during liftoff Tuesday -- despite NASA spending hundreds of millions of dollars trying to
prevent a repeat of the problem that caused the 2003 Columbia disaster."BDx13 - 7-28-2005 at 07:51 AM
i heard on the news they've spent $1.8B since Columbia researching and 'fixing' the problem.brooklyn - 7-28-2005 at 12:32 PM
so we can invade and fuck it up there tooCR83 - 7-28-2005 at 05:11 PM
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Originally posted by brooklyn
so we can invade and fuck it up there too
That's probably not far form the truth.ENDERA.x - 7-28-2005 at 05:21 PM
lol ^
ahh Magnetic (although power is an issue) floors so peepz can walk around up there easier than floatin about.. or do they have that or something like
it?
seems good in theory...
theres still tons of things to work on but were all so intersted in MARS for fuck sakes.
we cant get a shuttle crew there yet? maybe when I'm 60 this will happen.
i doubt we will see private space tours soon.
look at this neat GOOGLE feature where I can track you down and zoom in on your fucking house from the internet, thats all from the space programs ain
tit.
fancy fancy'
i have no real input here im just sayin shit
i find it all interesting but like
Discipline, give me a break bro! That would never happen.
