show prices

newbreedbrian - 10-19-2005 at 11:33 AM

how much is too much for a punk/hardcore show? how do you feel about people making a living off of the music and has your opinion changed over the years?

upyerbum - 10-19-2005 at 11:47 AM

I think if you can make enough money to keep doing what you do, that's cool. I don't think anyone deserves as much money as some of these fuckers make. As for a show, I wouldn't pay more than five bucks for a local show, 10 bucks for an out of town act.

RomanticViolence - 10-19-2005 at 12:12 PM

As for local bands, i think the most i ever paid was $20.00 (but that was an all day deal).

My boyfriend is in a band.. they don't get paid much at all but it's not a big deal to them. The only time i think money becomes an issue is if they do a show thats out of state (gas, food, sleep).

Most local bands and a few signed ones put out more money than they make.

upyerbum - 10-19-2005 at 12:14 PM

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Originally posted by RomanticViolence
Most local bands and a few signed ones put out more money than they make.

Amen, to that sister.

Discipline - 10-19-2005 at 12:19 PM

The most I'll pay for a local show is $7 or $8. Out of town bands I'll go as high as $20 for bigger bands like Agnostic Front, but your average band like $15.

RomanticViolence - 10-19-2005 at 12:24 PM

Now that im actually thinking about it.... Are there any bands in punk/hardcore that have done well enough that they don't have to work anymore?.
Do they have enough money to be "making a living off of the music"?

Discipline - 10-19-2005 at 12:39 PM

Sick Of It All

upyerbum - 10-19-2005 at 12:52 PM

(shudder)Bad Religion

newbreedbrian - 10-19-2005 at 12:55 PM

how about the ramones when they were around? or social distortion? how about the holidays in the sun type shows?

Voodoobillyman - 10-19-2005 at 02:37 PM

Social D definitely, have you seen their ticket costs??? and merch?? everytime I've seen them sell out too, now figure in a venue that holds
1500 people @ 30.00 a head plus merch, they must pull down an easy 20,000 a night or so. Maybe I'm off, but thats what it looks like to me
Other bands in the genre that don't have to work
Dropkick Murphys
Alot of those new screamo emo faggo bands
hatebreed Im sure does alright now

clevohardcore - 10-19-2005 at 02:43 PM

I am ok with 15 bucks. Any more it's got to be a great lineup. t shirt prices 12 MAYBE 15. Its a shame too becasue i would love to hook u pbands that make my life more liveable but I'm fucking poor. I got to save just like they do. If I made more money i would not mind paying a bit more but Damn It's hard to swing $15 dollars door $12 on a shirt and $5 each for 3 beers. Before you know it your dropping $50 or $60 sut to see one band. Not to mention gas to get their. But most bands got to get paid better. They are the ones leaving home and traveling and spending the nights in bunks and eating shitty and spending the money they make at the rest stops. Life right now if tough on everyone.

serenity - 10-19-2005 at 04:56 PM

about ~9 bucks for smaller bands and 19 bucks for bigger bands.

CR83 - 10-19-2005 at 05:06 PM

Awesome topic. I would pay up to $25 for a out of town package of 3 bands plus a local. Local bands, I'd pay up to $15. I think it helps them get started but I understand if others won't pay that.

I would buy shit loads of T's for $10. At $15 for a shirt, I begin to lose interest for some reason.

I feel like I owe it to these bands because they help me every day by being able to listen to their music. On top that, if they are nice people, I'm more inclined to chip in (ie: B4B, SOIA, Biohazard, Hatebreed, Madball, Sworn Enemy...) All of those bands, I have been lucky enough to have a beer with or somewhat hang with. All of them are very nice and were great.

Terror Aesthetic - 10-19-2005 at 05:29 PM

local 5 to 8, out of town 10 to 12.
shirts are ridiculously expensive.

tireironsaint - 10-19-2005 at 06:08 PM

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Originally posted by RomanticViolence
Now that im actually thinking about it.... Are there any bands in punk/hardcore that have done well enough that they don't have to work anymore?.
Do they have enough money to be "making a living off of the music"?

I think there's probably quite a few who are making a living off the music. I'm not talking about them being rich motherfuckers or anything like that, but I know a band or two that are able to live off of what they make without the need for day jobs. Some friends of mine are in a fairly well known Punk band and I was talking to them about their level of success and they brought up the fact that while they don't have to work to pay the rent and bills, they are holding onto part time jobs to keep themselves grounded as well as a "just in case" type deal. The music world (especially Punk and HC) is a very fickle place to be when it comes to responsibilities and such.

Mark Lind - 10-19-2005 at 06:15 PM

It depends on the town. For example, everything costs more in Boston than it does in West Virginia or something. When we do a local show in Boston we charge $10 to get in. I know some other local bands who ask $12 or $15.

XHonusWagnerX - 10-19-2005 at 08:36 PM

I hate to pay more than $10, but Im pretty cheap.

JawnDiablo - 10-19-2005 at 08:46 PM

i remember fugazi only charging $5 back in the day...are they even still around?
i think the last madball show here in philly was only like $12 with H2O

newbreedbrian - 10-19-2005 at 11:50 PM

for me geographical isolation has a direct effect on my willingness to pay a ticket price. we don't get that many bigger bands in this part of the country so when we do you don't want to miss it, whereas if i lived in a big city i might skip the show. i've found my opinion on the subject has changed since getting older and having played in a touring band. it's really easy to say when you're 16 that bands you like (often quite a bit older than you) should play for $5 because that makes sense to you at the time. now work shitty jobs for the next 10-15 years while trying to balance touring in a band, it gets pretty difficult. i know i've spent wayyyyy more than i've made in this band over the years, it's not even close. i get a kick out of it when people say shit like "you guys must be doing pretty well with a label and video and stuff". right.... it's pretty cool to see a band like soia do really well while still retaining integrity. built to last is my favorite thing they ever did and it's a major label hardcore record, now that's wild.

BDx13 - 10-20-2005 at 12:21 AM

i feel like most shows around here are in the $10-$12 range with at least one national band playing. that's at like your cbgb, continental, knitting factory, north six, etc. midsize venues like irving, roxy, or roseland that get bigger bands, will probably be in the $20-$25 range.

i mostly go to the $10 shows, and occasionally, the $20 shows, but i very rarely go to the cheaper shows comprised of just small local bands. i feel bad about it sometimes, like i'm not 'supporting the scene' or whatever, but at 31 with two full time jobs and kid, i can't be expected to drag myself halfway out to long island to listen to some bands i've never heard of before. besides the effort that goes into this label is support enough!

BDx13 - 10-20-2005 at 12:29 AM

now as for the merch, i'm with chris, gimme a low door price and reasonable prices for merch, and i'll shop like a mother fucker once i'm inside. most bands make more from that than anything else anyway.

i took my wife to see weezer and the foo fighters last weekend at the continental airlines arena, out by the giant's stadium... tickets were $40 each BEFORE all the fees. the total for the tickets came to an even $100 for the two of us. $9 each for the r/t bus ride out there. shirts... defstar, you reading this?! ...shirts were $25 for a one color, one sided T. proper color process t-shirts were $35. (no, we didn't buy any of those!)

oh, and i gave up drinking at shows a LONG time ago. that is unless anya you are in a band and you come around... right gabe?

godabandonedme - 10-20-2005 at 01:13 AM

My girl bought us tickets for Social D tomorrow night at the TLA in Phila over the ineternet, came to something like 70+ (I had posted about this before). Being's that social d is my favorite band ever, and she paid for it I'm not really gona complain but I think it's ridiculous for that much for 2 tickets to a show that's not at a huge venue.

BDx13 - 10-20-2005 at 01:36 AM

and isn't the sound at TLA known for being kinda crap? i mean, i rarely let that stop me from going to a show, but good accoustics are always appreciated!

last week i got tickets for my wife to go see depeche mode at the garden. first off, i can't believe i'm actually going to this. if you told me when i was 15 that i'd be going to a depece mode concert at any point in my life, ida killed YOU! anyway, after all the fees and what not, two tickets came to $185. whatever, my wife isn't as into live music as i am, so when she gets excited about a show, i make sure we go.

JawnDiablo - 10-20-2005 at 05:40 AM

i fuckin hate standing on that slanted TLA floor.....

Terror Aesthetic - 10-20-2005 at 09:08 AM

christ i hate weezer......sorry it just had to be said. my girl loves morrissey...

BDx13 - 10-20-2005 at 09:29 AM

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Originally posted by Terror Aesthetic
christ i hate weezer......sorry it just had to be said. my girl loves morrissey...

i recognized some of weezer's songs from the 90s, but they really didn't do much for me. i think my wife just thinks they're funny. she likes morrissey as well, but is also a big foo fighters fan. they were really good. dave grohl is much more metal than radio-friendly foo fighters songs let on.

thedog - 10-20-2005 at 01:01 PM

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Originally posted by juandiablo
i fuckin hate standing on that slanted TLA floor.....

haha, its terrible.

SAAAAARS - 10-20-2005 at 10:44 PM

you people saying you only pay 5$ or something for local bands are lucky. i probably average out at 10-12$ depending on if i buy a ticket in advance or if its at the door..... and that goes for local or out of town. for bands like madball i paid 20$ but i would pay 20$ every day to see madball

newbreedbrian - 10-20-2005 at 11:25 PM

i'd have alot of trouble paying $12 to see a local show

SAAAAARS - 10-20-2005 at 11:46 PM

most local shows involve my friends putting them on or friends bands playing. you gotta support that shit.

Dave - 10-21-2005 at 09:06 AM

lucky most local shows here are $5-8.

newbreedbrian - 10-21-2005 at 09:11 AM

different scene. when i started going to shows they were usually $3 or $4. now they're $5 or $6. this is not a wealthy part of the country and a 100% increase in the price of a show would mean about 2 people at the show. it has nothing to do with not supporting "the scene". i've been to/played more shows than i can remember over the years and if a local "punk" band started charging $12 at the door here they would be laughed at. it's a different story when a band is on tour. i can't remember how many shows we've played with touring bands and given 100% of the door to them. i don't think anybody ever played in a punk band around here to make money