I am moving to hollywood

defstarsteve - 11-22-2005 at 01:05 PM

there are enough asswipe remakes and sequals being made, maybe someone will buy one of my original stories and it can be remade to death...
not that I didn't find the remake okay, not great but okay, but man the cow has run dry stop squeezing the tit

http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1514224/11212005/sto...

Voodoobillyman - 11-22-2005 at 01:16 PM

I am definitely a purist when it comes to alot of horror films, but this one could be very good. Thanks for this Steve, I have been keeping up with the production on this one for awhile and this is the best report I have seen so far on it. I really like the fact that Tobe Hooper is interested in it, if anyone has advice on how to handle this story, it's him, thanks again for this.

Voodoobillyman - 11-22-2005 at 01:19 PM

Also on the remake thing, Hollywood is just getting warmed up and it is sickening. Peter Jacksons remake of King Kong is coming out next month and Paramount is talking about remaking.................are you ready for this??.................Friday the 13th. That is fucking blasphemy!!

upyerbum - 11-22-2005 at 01:20 PM

They remade Friday the 13th already, 12 times....

I turned my back on movies after they butchered The Highlander with a shitty fucking sequel....there is no sequel....He won, he is the one, end of fucking story!

Voodoobillyman - 11-22-2005 at 01:27 PM

other remakes in the works:

The hills have eyes
the Omen
The creature from the black lagoon
Day of the Dead
Night of the living dead 3D (2nd remake)
Altered states
Evil dead
the hitcher
pet cemetary
scanners

Voodoobillyman - 11-22-2005 at 01:29 PM

"They remade Friday the 13th already, 12 times...."

No,no,no.......I love horror franchises, I dont give a shit how cheesy it gets. Theres something of value in all of them, I'm talking they want to remake the first one where Mrs Voorhees was the killer, and they want to do it seriously.

defstarsteve - 11-22-2005 at 01:38 PM

I love horror films, no doubt, but there isn't 1 original writer left in hollywood..., and not jsut horror films
if it's not a fucking tv show, it's a a sequal, or a remake
I can appreciate the advancement in technology to make films better, but write a new script to go along with it...

all these damn remakes are fucking pg-13, kid bullshit as well
if you have the technology to make the most visually and atmospherically disturbing films ever, do it....
where the hell did the nc-17 films go...

is it the damn riptide of conservatisim and morality that is killing our ability to scare the fuck out of people... I would think this would push the envelope even more...
burn hollywood burn

Discipline - 11-22-2005 at 04:06 PM

I love horror flicks but I miss all the gratuitous nudity and gore they used to have. It's all so tame these days, for the most part anyways.

XHonusWagnerX - 11-22-2005 at 04:35 PM

Ehhh I'm tired of the remakes too, but I'll admit that I will go see most of them anyway.

Voodoobillyman - 11-22-2005 at 04:54 PM

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Ehhh I'm tired of the remakes too, but I'll admit that I will go see most of them anyway

tireironsaint - 11-22-2005 at 07:23 PM

I didn't think anybody who is actually serious about horror liked that Chainsaw remake. They turned a great movie into another one of these craptastic "I know what you did last summer/Scream/whatever" movies with a better story (due solely to the fact that it was a remake of a good movie. I'll admit, making a prequel to TCM sounds like a good idea, but it sounds like it's gonna be just as moronically done as the remake. Same target audience - frat boys who hope their sorority girl dates will bury their heads in their laps out of fear.

Bah, I fuckin' LOVE horror, but almost all of the "franchise" movies are pieces of shit to begin with (yes, I'm talkin' about Friday the 13th, Nightmare On Elm Street, Halloween, etcetera) with the exception of Texas Chainsaw Massacre, although some of the sequels to that were pretty ridiculous. All these new movies that are trying to replicate their success, Scream and all those, are MUCH worse and just serve to put another nail in the horror movie coffin and so they piss me off even worse than just another bad horror flick would. I mean, it's hard enough for horror movie writers and directors (aside from a few who have overcome this) to get taken seriously anyway, why destroy the genre's validity for a quick buck?

Anyway, I am actually really anticipating the King Kong remake since I like Peter Jackson, not so much for the geek fest of the Lord Of The Ring movies, but for his old low budget stuff. I can't wait to see what he does with the very first horror movie I ever saw.

Voodoobillyman - 11-22-2005 at 07:46 PM

I am a franchise freak, I love em. Anything trying to establish a franchise after 1985 is total crap though (scream being the biggest load) I do take horror films seriously, it's my favorite of all time and I live to scour the net and stores looking for independant gems waiting to be seen. I did enjoy the Texas remake for what it was........a remake, you cant go in expecting something as profound as the original. Same with the Dawn of the dead remake, I loved it because I viewed it as it's own film rather than a weak attempt at capturing greatness. The two films that come to mind when I think horror in modern day that stuck to originality and catered to the hardcore fan are 28 days later and Shaun of the Dead as far as blockbuster theater type shit. If you really like horror films, and you dig the zombie subgenre specifically, check out an Australian indie called Undead. I think it deserves to mention braindead (dead alive) in it's description, nuff said.

tireironsaint - 11-22-2005 at 08:03 PM

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I am a franchise freak, I love em. Anything trying to establish a franchise after 1985 is total crap though (scream being the biggest load) I do take horror films seriously, it's my favorite of all time and I live to scour the net and stores looking for independant gems waiting to be seen. I did enjoy the Texas remake for what it was........a remake, you cant go in expecting something as profound as the original. Same with the Dawn of the dead remake, I loved it because I viewed it as it's own film rather than a weak attempt at capturing greatness. The two films that come to mind when I think horror in modern day that stuck to originality and catered to the hardcore fan are 28 days later and Shaun of the Dead as far as blockbuster theater type shit. If you really like horror films, and you dig the zombie subgenre specifically, check out an Australian indie called Undead. I think it deserves to mention braindead (dead alive) in it's description, nuff said.

Aside from the franchise stuff (sorry man, I've haed those things forever) and the TCM remake, I agree with you fuly. I fuckin' LOVE 28 Days Later and Shaun Of The Dead. Haven't seen Undead, but Dead Alive has been one of my favorites for years now and is definitely one of the Jackson movies I was referring to earlier.

Voodoobillyman - 11-22-2005 at 08:24 PM

hey, we cant all be the same and like all the same things right? then we would look and act like all the fucks on the mtv, then i would have to take my life. check out undead, and yeah i figured you were talking about dead alive, that shit is classic.

Voodoobillyman - 11-22-2005 at 08:25 PM

oh and 28 days later is some of the scariest shit i have seen in years.

Dave - 11-23-2005 at 07:25 AM

i liked resently:

The Ring
Ju-On
28 Days Later

XnMeX - 11-23-2005 at 09:09 AM

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Originally posted by Discipline
I love horror flicks but I miss all the gratuitous nudity and gore they used to have. It's all so tame these days, for the most part anyways.

The Devil's Rejects brings that back 10 fold.

I never went and saw it at the theatre so I havew only seen it in directors cut dvd form but in my opinion that is the WORST (in a good way) movie to be put out as a major motion picture in FOREVER. The movie deserves ALOT more credit and I hope it opnes the door back open for more gore and nudity. That movie took the envelope and fucking shreaded it! I just think of when Natural Born Killers came out, all the shit that movie got for it's content but now, in comparison to TDR's, it is VERY tame (but still a great movie, ESPECIALLY for it's time).

Now, if anyone hasn't seen TDR's, SEE IT! I was worried it was gonna be total shit due to how horrible House of 1,000 corpses was. It's a nice mix....

I think of it like this...

TCM + Charles Manson x Natural Born Killers = The Devil's Rejects

Voodoobillyman - 11-23-2005 at 09:14 AM

Rob Zombie has proven himself to be one hell of a writer/director for sure!!

XnMeX - 11-23-2005 at 09:16 AM

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The two films that come to mind when I think horror in modern day that stuck to originality and catered to the hardcore fan are 28 days later and Shaun of the Dead as far as blockbuster theater type shit.

Which is funny, cuz they are both foreign films. It seems like nowadays you have to go outside of the states for anything remotly related to "real horror". The only recent american horror releases I have liked are the Devil's Rejects and Saw.... There is a movie coming out call "Hostil" that sounds promising. Other than that, all the good horror is out of the us. High Tension was another good foreign flick, along with TONS of japanese cinema.

Voodoobillyman - 11-23-2005 at 10:36 AM

Some of those Japanese flicks are just out there, they are original for sure. Yeah, the brits seem to have taken a love to the horror genre and they have been doing it very well. I still think the Italions with Dario have really good stuff, it's just hard to find.

Voodoobillyman - 11-23-2005 at 10:38 AM

And back on subject for a moment, Hollywood has a hard on for Japanese horror remakes.

The ring (ringu)
The grudge (ju on)
sequels to both and a third ring installment in the works.

Voodoobillyman - 11-23-2005 at 10:39 AM

Lions Gate has been releasing some good independant horror flicks, just look for anything from them and it's almost gauranteed to be pretty damn good.

XnMeX - 11-23-2005 at 11:39 AM

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Lions Gate has been releasing some good independant horror flicks, just look for anything from them and it's almost gauranteed to be pretty damn good.

Not exactly. They are also releasing some REALLY low level B horror flicks.... No budget films. I personally like thm for their comic value, but most people HATE them

Voodoobillyman - 11-23-2005 at 12:44 PM

Theres some kind of value in all of those, like you said, everyone could use a good laugh

tireironsaint - 11-23-2005 at 03:54 PM

It's all about Anchor Bay, those guys are hitting all the good stuff. Check out Dead and Breakfast, it was supposed to be the "American answer to Shaun Of The Dead", but I wouldn't say it was quite that good. Pretty fuckin' funny and gory, but not nearly as well written. The new movie starring and directed by Bruce Campbell, The Man With The Screaming Brain, is awesome. Ultra low budget and filmed on location in Bulgaria (because it was the cheapest place they could find in the world to film it in, even though they had to rewrite the script to make it fit), it's hilarious and loaded with really cheesy (in a good way) effects. I've probably watched it five times since I got it a few weeks ago.

I also liked Land Of The Dead alot. I know most of the purists thought it fucked things up, but I really enjoyed it.

Voodoobillyman - 11-23-2005 at 04:14 PM

I am definitely a purist when it comes to Romeros work and I thought Land of the Dead was awesome too. The Tom Savini cameo was worth it alone, but I thought it fit well into the whole series, the only thing I didnt like was the way the gas station attendant zombie kept yelping. That was a little cheesy, and I think thats what bothered most people, but it was a small price to sit through for that film. As a side note the guys from Shaun of the dead actually flew out to the set to be zombies, if you didnt know it, try to guess which ones. They had a small but hilarious part in the film. Anchor Bay is definitely another good one, and they own the rights to some really good classics now too. Hopefully that means they wont let anyone "remake" them.

Jason the Magnificent - 11-23-2005 at 05:13 PM

Devils Rejects is the best horror movie in the past 10 years. Rob Zombie is going to bring back the genre and outside of that movie I think hes a total tool culturally....so thats saying alot.

As far as the TCM prequel...I just can't complain about a movie with R. Lee Ermey in it. Worth the ticket price right there.

defstarsteve - 11-23-2005 at 05:40 PM

not that I didn't like land of the dead but for me the best part is the begining...
why because I live in uniontown, an our outside of pittsburgh where the film was suppsoed to be set, but it wasn't filmed there becasue it's too good damn expensive to shoot there

the first NOLD was filmed in my girls grandma's backyard....
so seeing him give a shout out to our little shitty town is okay by me...

Voodoobillyman - 11-23-2005 at 08:25 PM

You live on sacred grounds in my opinion Steve

And yeah I read the interviews with Romero about the location. He was totally bummed about filming in Canada, but alas, it was too costly to do so where he really wanted. You come from the land of horror in my opinion, Romero, Savini, Nicotero (for the new school) you cant go wrong.

defstarsteve - 11-23-2005 at 08:31 PM

actually we almost bought the house and land that used to be her grandma's but it was on septic and wouldn't work for running the business
that and it's a 200 year old farm house....
too much work for the bother....
if anyone is ever in western pa we can take you on a tour however

Voodoobillyman - 11-23-2005 at 08:35 PM

If I get out there, count on me requesting that one