Discussion Topic-Jasta Good or Bad for HC

CR83 - 8-11-2006 at 03:32 PM

I know there seems to be a few more folks against Jamey on this board then there are ones that are for him.

I think he has been great for it. I think he has helped TONS of bands get out there and help a lot of kids along the way. He has always been a nice guy when I have met him as well.

Thoughts?

defstarsteve - 8-11-2006 at 05:14 PM

I have dealt with him a few times
was always nice I guess,
and he supports a lot of my friends bands,
but I know more then a few people on his label that he has dicked over...

I hate his band and the idiots he helped to bring into hardcore
but whatever
I won't invite him over for dinner but I wouldn't fight him either

just another person I don't really care about
jsut indifferent more then anything
wouldn't give a shit one way or another if he died tomorrow
and i think he feels pretty much the same way

crazyfists28 - 8-11-2006 at 05:18 PM

i think that whether its good or bad attention that he creates for music, his band, other bands, whatever, it's all beneficial in a way for hardcore in general. i dont think he is necessary in todays society where you can find this music much easier than say, ten or twenty years ago. but for all the negative he has brought, i think he has also brought this type of music a new level of popularity. some say that its too popular, and the metal core thing is crap, but hardcore was bound to change and diversify cuz you can only play the same style for so long before it gets overdone, much like metal core already has

Spoiler - 8-11-2006 at 05:21 PM

I haven't cared for Hatebreed since Satisfaction is the death of desire...but I have no problem with Jamey,he was cool the few times I met him...and he still helps out the smaller bands...whatever...I may even go see this show....

More dates have been released for "Monsters of Mayhem", the upcoming tour featuring HATEBREED, NAPALM DEATH, EXODUS, THE BLACK DAHLIA MURDER, DESPISED ICON and FIRST BLOOD. They are as follows:

Sep. 01 - Worcester, MA @ The Palladium
Sep. 03 - Lancaster, PA @ The Chameleon
Sep. 04 - Springfield, VA @ Jaxx
Sep. 05 - Poughkeepsie, NY @ The Chance
Sep. 06 - Pittsburgh, PA @ Club Zoo
Sep. 07 - Norfolk, VA @ The NorVa
Sep. 08 - Allentown, PA @ Crocodile Rock
Sep. 09 - Hartford, CT @ Webster Theatre
Sep. 10 - Sayreville, NJ @ Starland Ballroom
Sep. 12 - Fayetteville, NC @ Jesters Pub
Sep. 13 - Charlotte, NC @ Amos' Southend
Sep. 14 - Louisville, KY @ Headliners Music Hall
Sep. 15 - Detroit, MI @ Harpo's
Sep. 16 - Cleveland, OH @ Agora Theatre
Sep. 17 - Huntington, WV @ Huntington Music Hall
Sep. 19 - Chcicago, IL @ House of Blues
Sep. 20 - Columbus, OH @ Newport Music Hall
Sep. 21 - Fort Wayne, IN @ Piere's
Sep. 22 - Milwaukee, WI @ Eagles Club
Sep. 23 - Columbia Heights, MN @ The Rock
Sep. 24 - Sauget, IL @ Pop's
Sep. 26 - Oklahoma City, OK @ Diamond Ballroom
Sep. 27 - Austin, TX @ La Zona Rosa
Sep. 28 - Houston, TX @ Warehouse Live
Sep. 29 - Corpus Christi, TX @ Concrete Street Amphitheatre
Sep. 30 - Fort Worth, TX @ Ridglea Theatre
Oct. 01 - Lubbock, TX @ South Beach
Oct. 02 - Odessa, TX @ Dos Amigos
Oct. 04 - Denver, CO @ Ogden Theatre

HATEBREED frontman Jamey Jasta recently told MTV.com about the tour: "We've never gone out on a headline run immediately following Ozzfest, and we've always wanted to, and we always felt we needed to, but there were always plans that superseded that. We're taking out a very extreme bill. . . But it will be a good way for us to give back to the underground, extreme scenes, and also for us to go out and headline for the first time in a long, long time and do a full hour-and-a-half set with our new staging and new gear."

JawnDiablo - 8-11-2006 at 06:10 PM

i dont think much bout jasta

clevohardcore - 8-12-2006 at 01:47 AM

Good or bad the band he is in is pretty rad. I heard that the bands on his label are realy not that happy. Its like he gives them some rope and then holds them back. I thought SUBZERO could be bigger but for some reason they never get the exposure they should.

tireironsaint - 8-12-2006 at 02:00 AM

He irritates the fuck outta me and I honestly think that his music has nothing to do with anything I consider Hard Core. I understand that for a lot of people, the stuff he does and all the bands that follow that path are exactly what HC is, but all I see is a slick, marketed, short haired metal band without the slightest trace of anything to do with the roots of this scene or the music it came from. As far as I can tell he has done nothing positive for the music I love or the scene I grew up in. He has taken it's name and slapped it on his shitty music as if it were his own personal trademark symbol that he could use to define whatever he wants. Fuck him, fuck his band, fuck every band that follows his route.

DeekMcD - 8-12-2006 at 08:53 AM

I grew up right outside New Haven and saw him move through the ranks since his days in Jasta 14. Jamey's always been nice as hell the times I've run into him- just small talk,etc. I don't "know" him though. He actually used to help out one of my old bands in CT as well on bills with Hatebreed when they first started....at VFW halls, that kinda thing.

And yeah- SATISFACTION IS THE DEATH OF DESIRE is THE Hatebreed album- keep in mind it was the first full length and a culmination of YEARS of writing and refining the songs- unlike the others. I have the earlier demo versions of some of the Satisfaction material and the songs sound far different than what we heard by the time they signed with Victory.

DeekMcD - 8-12-2006 at 08:58 AM

Shit, and Exodus on that Hatebreed tour! Those guys NEED the exposure- saw 'em at Marks Showplace months back and there were like 30 people there for Exodus (albeit a monday night). The new Exodus album's not bad, but "Tempo Of The Damned" f'n slayed- and that band still can hold its own, and should garner a new wave of fans from this tour....but whadda I know, I'm just an aging metal nut. lol.

XHonusWagnerX - 8-12-2006 at 09:11 AM

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Originally posted by DeekMcD
Shit, and Exodus on that Hatebreed tour! Those guys NEED the exposure- saw 'em at Marks Showplace months back and there were like 30 people there for Exodus (albeit a monday night). The new Exodus album's not bad, but "Tempo Of The Damned" f'n slayed- and that band still can hold its own, and should garner a new wave of fans from this tour....but whadda I know, I'm just an aging metal nut. lol.

I agree. but the problem is that the singer on the new lp is not the same guy from tempo of hte damned so thats why its not as good.

MyOwnWay - 8-13-2006 at 03:17 AM

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Originally posted by tireironsaint
He irritates the fuck outta me and I honestly think that his music has nothing to do with anything I consider Hard Core. I understand that for a lot of people, the stuff he does and all the bands that follow that path are exactly what HC is, but all I see is a slick, marketed, short haired metal band without the slightest trace of anything to do with the roots of this scene or the music it came from. As far as I can tell he has done nothing positive for the music I love or the scene I grew up in. He has taken it's name and slapped it on his shitty music as if it were his own personal trademark symbol that he could use to define whatever he wants. Fuck him, fuck his band, fuck every band that follows his route.

This is exactly how I feel about it. Thank you for saving me all that typing. I couldnt have said it better.

clevohardcore - 8-13-2006 at 03:57 AM

He's no Gibby Haynes