Amish school shooting! (surprisingly, this is not a joke)

BDx13 - 10-2-2006 at 01:23 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/10/02/amish.shooting.ap/index.htm...

The town where this happened is literally five minutes from my house.

gavin - 10-2-2006 at 01:47 PM

thats just great
i hate people
i really do
shooting kids...............how wonderful

crazyfists28 - 10-2-2006 at 02:00 PM

i guess they're looking for a kid at a vegas school who brought a gun.

newbreedbrian - 10-2-2006 at 02:22 PM

i bet it was this guy:

gavin - 10-2-2006 at 02:22 PM

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Originally posted by newbreedbrian
i bet it was this guy:

"chickens"

BDx13 - 10-2-2006 at 02:22 PM

just watched the live news conference. this fucking scum went to the school, let all the males and women with infants go, blocked the doors, then lined up the girls, bound their feet, and started executing them. three kids plus the shooter dead. he was a 32 year old truck driver who lived in the area.

Voodoobillyman - 10-2-2006 at 04:20 PM

what a fuckin shame, I saw it on the news and wondered if this was by you Big D.

Discipline - 10-2-2006 at 05:48 PM

Damn. Why do these fuckers always have to kill themselves? Fucking cowards. We need to keep them alive and let the public deal with them.

clevohardcore - 10-2-2006 at 06:52 PM

I am getting fed up with this shit. I am being very serious.

crazyfists28 - 10-2-2006 at 06:55 PM

thats what i always wonder, why go through with all this and then just kill yourself? how about this, just kill yourself and leave everyone else alone...

RomanticViolence - 10-2-2006 at 07:11 PM

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MyOwnWay - 10-2-2006 at 07:23 PM

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Originally posted by BD
The town where this happened is literally five minutes from my house.

Then you live closer to me than I thought you did.

...And I agree, I dont understand why these fucks dont just off themselves and leave others alone.

Six66Mike - 10-2-2006 at 09:45 PM

This was headline news at 10:30 and 11:00am news casts in Australia. They said the dude tied them up but didn't start shooting until the cops came.

I like how shooters & assassins always have their middle name used by the media. Today's shooter is 32 year old Charles Carl Roberts who chose that school simply because it was near his house.

Apparently did it for something that happened to him as a child which is why he singled out the females. In total I think he shot 11 or there are 11 injured + the 3 dead.

morgan - 10-2-2006 at 10:05 PM

Only more proof that we live in a VERY fucked up world.

Six66Mike - 10-3-2006 at 01:25 AM

Replace 'world' with 'country' haha. School shootings aren't very popular in other countries & the only places with more violence are Iraq, Afghanistan, parts of Latin America & Africa. See the links with US involvement lol. It spreads wherever Americans are gathered it seems lol.

clevohardcore - 10-3-2006 at 10:02 AM

I finally saw this last night on the news. this is devestating. He droppe dhis kids off at school then went to another school and killed other kids. WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON?

BDx13 - 10-3-2006 at 12:45 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/10/03/amish.shooting

now they're saying he molested minor family members 20 years ago, and he dreamed of molesting again. he took ky jelly with him to the school house. had nothing to do with them being amish, just young girls in a low-security setting.

two more girls died overnight, for a total of five children. five other are still in the hospital.

upyerbum - 10-3-2006 at 01:44 PM

I'm sick to my stomach.

JawnDiablo - 10-3-2006 at 02:47 PM

it just gets worse the more you hear....

morgan - 10-3-2006 at 06:57 PM

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Originally posted by Six66Mike
Replace 'world' with 'country' haha. School shootings aren't very popular in other countries & the only places with more violence are Iraq, Afghanistan, parts of Latin America & Africa. See the links with US involvement lol. It spreads wherever Americans are gathered it seems lol.

I was refering to the world in general. Every country in the world has fucked up stuff going on in it. I'm not just refering to school shootings.

XHonusWagnerX - 10-4-2006 at 10:48 AM

Holy Fuck.... they just reported that he had TWO tubes of KY Jelly with him in the school house and that he planned to be there much longer than he was but one person managed to escape and get the police..... *sigh.... thats purely disgusting!

Amish grandfather: 'We must not think evil of this man'

BDx13 - 10-4-2006 at 03:03 PM

these people are waaaaaaay stronger than i.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/10/04/amish.shooting

PARADISE, Pennsylvania (CNN) -- A grieving grandfather told young relatives not to hate the gunman who killed five girls in an Amish schoolhouse massacre, a pastor said on Wednesday.

"As we were standing next to the body of this 13-year-old girl, the grandfather was tutoring the young boys, he was making a point, just saying to the family, 'We must not think evil of this man,'" the Rev. Robert Schenck told CNN.

XHonusWagnerX - 10-4-2006 at 03:15 PM

They said that the family doesnt even have pictures of the kids because the Amish dont beleive in cameras... that whole thing sucks!

BDx13 - 10-4-2006 at 03:18 PM

they'll allow people to photograph them while they work (with permission), but will not pose for protraits. they believe that is a sin of pride and vanity. even the dolls that amish children play with have no facial features.

morgan - 10-5-2006 at 12:40 AM

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Originally posted by BD
these people are waaaaaaay stronger than i.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/10/04/amish.shooting

PARADISE, Pennsylvania (CNN) -- A grieving grandfather told young relatives not to hate the gunman who killed five girls in an Amish schoolhouse massacre, a pastor said on Wednesday.

"As we were standing next to the body of this 13-year-old girl, the grandfather was tutoring the young boys, he was making a point, just saying to the family, 'We must not think evil of this man,'" the Rev. Robert Schenck told CNN.

Got to agree with BD on that one.

upyerbum - 10-5-2006 at 07:59 AM

Thats what just makes this worse. Why would you fuck with the Amish, they don't even have guns for fucks sake. I'd like to think they could teach me something, but I just don't have that kind of forgiveness in me. Perhaps its a weight they carry for us all.

BDx13 - 10-5-2006 at 11:07 AM

yeah, these people continue to amaze me....

Amish prepare to bury 4 shooting victims
By MICHAEL RUBINKAM, Associated Press Writer

GEORGETOWN, Pa. - Horse-drawn buggies glided past roadblocks Thursday morning as Amish families gathered to bury four of the five young girls who were gunned down inside their tiny rural schoolhouse.

All roads leading into the village of Nickel Mines, where a milk truck driver had taken the children hostage and killed them, were blocked off for the funerals.

Their Amish families asked for privacy as scores of mourners prayed at the girls' homes before taking the bodies to a hilltop cemetery and burying Naomi Rose Ebersole, 7; Marian Fisher, 13; and sisters Mary Liz Miller, 8, and Lena Miller, 7.

The funeral for a fifth girl, Anna Mae Stoltzfus, 12, was scheduled for Friday.

Five survivors of the schoolhouse attack continued to fight their injuries Thursday, at least four of them still hospitalized.

County coroner G. Gary Kirchner said he had been contacted by a doctor at Penn State Children's Hospital in Hershey who said doctors expected to take one girl off life support so she could be brought home. Dr. D. Holmes Morton, who runs a clinic that serves Amish children, said Thursday that the reports that a 6-year-old had been taken off life-support and taken home to die were accurate "as far as I know."

"I just think at this point mostly these families want to be left alone in their grief and we ought to respect that," Morton said.

National mourning of similar tragedies, such as the massacre at Columbine High School in Colorado, has been enabled in part by media coverage ? something the Amish generally shun.

In Lancaster County, there have been prayer services for the Amish school shooting victims at area churches, but the traditional funerals for the girls were closed. About 300 to 500 people were expected at each, said funeral director Philip W. Furman.

Amish custom calls for simple wooden caskets, narrow at the head and feet and wider in the middle. An Amish girl is typically laid to rest in a white dress, a cape, and a white prayer-covering on her head, Furman said.

The girls' families, Amish neighbors and friends are coping with the slayings by looking inward, relying on themselves and their faith, just as they have for centuries, to get them through what one Amish bishop called "our 9/11."

"They know their children are going to heaven. They know their children are innocent ... and they know that they will join them in death," said Gertrude Huntington, a Michigan researcher who has written a book about children in Amish society.

"The hurt is very great," Huntington said. "But they don't balance the hurt with hate."

In just about any other community, a deadly school shooting would have brought demands from civic leaders for tighter gun laws and better security, and the victims' loved ones would have lashed out at the gunman's family or threatened to sue.

But that's not the Amish way.

In the aftermath of Monday's violence, the Amish have reached out to the family of the gunman, Charles Carl Roberts IV, 32, who committed suicide during the attack in a one-room schoolhouse.

Dwight Lefever, a Roberts family spokesman, said an Amish neighbor comforted the Roberts family hours after the shooting and extended forgiveness to them. Among Roberts' survivors are his wife and three children.

"I hope they stay around here and they'll have a lot of friends and a lot of support," said Daniel Esh, a 57-year-old Amish artist and woodworker whose three grandnephews were inside the school during the attack.

Roberts' relatives may even receive money from a fund established to help victims and their families, said Kevin King, executive director of Mennonite Disaster services, an agency managing the donations.

Though the Amish generally do not accept help from outside their community, King quoted an Amish bishop as saying, "We are not asking for funds. In fact, it's wrong for us to ask. But we will accept them with humility."

The attack on West Nickel Mines Amish School began Monday morning when Roberts took over the one-room school, sent the adults and boys out and bound the 10 remaining girls at the blackboard. He was in the school for about an hour before he shot his hostages and turned the gun on himself as police closed in.

State police have said Roberts might have been planning to sexually assault the Amish girls but there was no evidence that he actually did.

Roberts had revealed to his wife in a note left behind the day of the attacks and in a cell phone call from inside the school that he was tormented by memories of molesting two young relatives 20 years ago and dreamed of molesting again. But police said Wednesday there was no evidence of any such sexual abuse.

Investigators spoke to the two relatives Roberts named, who would have been 4 or 5 at the time, and said neither recalled being sexually assaulted by Roberts.

"They were absolutely sure they had no contact with Roberts," said state police Trooper Linette Quinn.

On the roads into Nickel Mines early Thursday, families in traditional Amish dress, broad-brimmed hats and bonnets walked on foot and traveled in horse-drawn buggies. The clip-clop of the horses was broken up only by the roar of official helicopters overhead enforcing a no-fly zone over the region.

Voodoobillyman - 10-5-2006 at 01:41 PM

I feel bad for his family, they are victims in this too. That piece of shit had kids who looked up to him and loved him and he has victimized them too. Not only did they lose their dad, but they lost him this way and have to live with that. The whole thing is so terrible you just have no words for it.

BDx13 - 10-5-2006 at 02:15 PM

oh i definitely feel for his family as well. usually i don't, but his wife and children had no idea what was coming; it's not like the turned a blind eye to the signs for years. in yet another example of just how strong these people are, the amish families invited the wife of the killer to the funerals of their girls.

unfortunately, it now looks like one of the five that was still in the hospital has been taken off of life support so her family can take her home and let her pass there.

Voodoobillyman - 10-5-2006 at 02:16 PM

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Originally posted by BD
oh i definitely feel for his family as well. usually i don't, but his wife and children had no idea what was coming; it's not like the turned a blind eye to the signs for years. in yet another example of just how strong these people are, the amish families invited the wife of the killer to the funerals of their girls.

unfortunately, it now looks like one of the five that was still in the hospital has been taken off of life support so her family can take her home and let her pass there.

yeah, a six year old girl. too much man, too much.

MyOwnWay - 10-5-2006 at 03:53 PM

I just dont get it. He had kids of his own, how could he not think of them. You could use the reasoning that he acted out on what happened years ago, but now what about his kids. How are they gonna grow up... He should have saught help and counceled his own kids in life on how to act in situations. I mean fuck, I cant imagine how the kids must feel. Selfish prick. I hope he rots in hell.