I have a contract here... for a pretty cool small label.
And I'm scared.
hahaha.
Its like 20 pages long.upyerbum - 3-14-2007 at 07:55 PM
Lawyer.necrobutcher - 3-14-2007 at 08:30 PM
Lawyer for real. I hate to sound cynical but money and pussy make men do evil shit. Not to take a dump on the label in question but forethought is
key.Six66Mike - 3-14-2007 at 09:17 PM
Whats the label.gavin - 3-15-2007 at 12:34 AM
DONT
DO
IT!!!!!!!!!!1Siczine.com - 3-15-2007 at 12:57 AM
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Originally posted by Boycott Christian HC
Sounds strange for a small label. Unless it's a full time job for them, then it would make sense. But for your regular hardcore D.I.Y. label dude who
puts out 7 inches in runs below 500... hmmmm.
You would think so...however, knowing dudes that run labels themselves, small indie labels stand to lose much more money than the band, especially if
the band sits on its ass and doesnt do shit to promote/sell the album. My boy went on handshake deals thinking he could trust the band, but nah. I
just think the label is trying to cover it's ass just as the band is.Siczine.com - 3-15-2007 at 01:33 AM
someone has to fund the recordthedog - 3-15-2007 at 02:02 AM
good luck with the new label Gabe.GabeTexasGAMC - 3-15-2007 at 02:10 AM
so then...
lawyer huh.
I just dont wanna get fucked is all.
And itsa small label out of b-more.
Workers United Records.
The dude from The Hudson Falcons.
Nice dude.Siczine.com - 3-15-2007 at 02:14 AM
Is it some real technical jargon being used or can you decipher what is being said? If so, fuck the lawyer. The most important thing is that you own
your songs, and that the label can only use them for one specific release unless otherwise specified.Voodoobillyman - 3-15-2007 at 09:34 AM
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Originally posted by GabeTexasGAMC
so then...
lawyer huh.
I just dont wanna get fucked is all.
And itsa small label out of b-more.
Workers United Records.
The dude from The Hudson Falcons.
Nice dude.
I think thats the same label the Dead End Boys are on, I like alot of the bands coming out of Baltimore. Cool deal Gabe, just be careful.BDx13 - 3-15-2007 at 09:37 AM
contracts aren't a bad thing, just remember that what's in 'em isn't set in stone until you sign it. if you don't like something or feel something is
missing, negotiate. business never personal.CR83 - 3-15-2007 at 10:27 AM
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business never personal.
Too many people forget this. This is a big reason why I hate talking business. Even with my clients. I'd rather talk about real life shit.GabeTexasGAMC - 3-16-2007 at 05:32 AM
Had a friend read it over. Its pretty fucked up.
Were going to pass. Big time.
It pretty much says that the label will own us, and everything we do.
And pretty much not get paid for it.gavin - 3-16-2007 at 08:02 AM
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Originally posted by GabeTexasGAMC
Had a friend read it over. Its pretty fucked up.
Were going to pass. Big time.
It pretty much says that the label will own us, and everything we do.
And pretty much not get paid for it.
good for you
do it on your own gabeyour band has done well thusfar doing just that
you really dont need labels at this point our society
the internet is the biggest distro in the world
(no offense to thorp records as they are the only label i would ever deal with if i ever had a band again)Jason the Magnificent - 3-16-2007 at 08:20 AM
There is never any reason to sign a contract for a small hardcore label (1000 and under presses)...and people who ask you to sign one are not on the
up and up.
What are they trying to contractually lock you into....what in the hell are you going to do if there is a breach of contract? Sue the other party and
spend THOUSANDS in lawyer fees over a $3k (on the average) investment?
Half the fucking bands are going to break up 6 months after you releases the CD anyway.
The ONLY fair way to handle an 'casual' indie label is to be FAIR. It's in both parties best interest to keep things balanced. On any of my full
lenghts I would pay for the studio costs to a certain point...typically about $1k, pay for the CD and promotion, make a small batch of promotional
merch which the band gets a pile of and give the band 300 CD's (with additional units for just above cost). If the studio time goes over the band
would pick up the difference and they would get an equal amount of retail value CD's, i.e. if they spend another $1k in the studio they get 100 more
CD's in the deal. This makes sure YOU promote the CD and the band STAYS motivated. You'd be suprised how much more motivated a band is when they
actually have to sell their own CD's to make money. Only a fool would expect a hardcore band to perform well when you're giving them a percentage of
sales...hardcore records are not sold through ads theyre sold through the bands footwork.
Unless you're a bigger Thorp, Victory, Revelation big ad campaign type of label there is NO reason to have a contract that isnt pretty similar to that
in theory.
I haven't made a profit on ANY of my 10 releases, but you'd be hard pressed to find a complaint from any of the 20 somthing bands I've dealt with.
