stars and stripes

gavin - 3-28-2007 at 02:10 PM

rules
just so youz know

Voodoobillyman - 3-28-2007 at 03:13 PM

I dig em

Jason the Magnificent - 3-28-2007 at 03:53 PM

First album is immortal greatness. Second...not so much...

The main problem I have with this band is their gimmic is supposed to be 'American' Oi, yet all the lads and hoolie shit is over the top, Choke couldn't be any more obvious in their marketing of the newer album to the Dropkick Murphys football scarf crowd if he tried. If it was 'American' OI, he should have anthems to Baseball.

gavin - 3-28-2007 at 03:57 PM

i kinda like the second one
i dont think he was trying to market to anyone except those "in the know" if ya catch my drift

Discipline - 3-28-2007 at 04:00 PM

Second wasn't bad, but the first is insanely good. I can see where Jason is coming from in regards to the lyrics.

gavin - 3-28-2007 at 04:02 PM

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Originally posted by Discipline
Second wasn't bad, but the first is insanely good. I can see where Jason is coming from in regards to the lyrics.

yeah i mean i see it too
i just kinda figured it was sort of an inside joke sort of as oppossed to trying to gain any new fans cuz there's only a certain section of people who would dig a band like that in the first place

Jason the Magnificent - 3-28-2007 at 04:05 PM

I mean, I love the older Brit Oi, I just think the blatant 'having a laugh with my mates and a pint at me pub' mentality of most post Stormwatch American Oi is rediculous. For the most part Oi is supposedly centered around class/national pride and the bands worship another culture?

I really can't think of too many bands in the past 10 years that don't fall inot that category outside of the Jersey Headache crowd.

gavin - 3-28-2007 at 04:07 PM

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Originally posted by Jason the Magnificent
I mean, I love the older Brit Oi, I just think the blatant 'having a laugh with my mates and a pint at me pub' mentality of most post Stormwatch American Oi is rediculous. For the most part Oi is supposedly centered around class/national pride and the bands worship another culture?

I really can't think of too many bands in the past 10 years that don't fall inot that category outside of the Jersey Headache crowd.

agreed
i actually dont like 90% of american oi
def. more of an english thing to me

Jason the Magnificent - 3-28-2007 at 04:23 PM

I think at one point in time I made fun of the football themes on the new album in a B9 thread about the album and Choke actually replied... (haha how do I make all these guys mad!? I must have a powerfull opinion) and went into some rant about how I should go listen to Youth of Today then and some other non sensical out of touch commentary about me being a vegan.

Haha, YOT? Vegan?

On a positive note...I hear Wretched Ones are working on a new album.

tireironsaint - 3-28-2007 at 06:04 PM

I dig 'em. And I like the second album too, not as much as the first, but I take 'em both for what they are and from what I understand, there were some new people who had a much bigger push on the new one than even Choke did. I'm sure Honus will drop in here soon and lay down some knowledge for us all.

DaveMoral - 3-28-2007 at 06:12 PM

Second record isn't so good to me, but Shaved For Battle rules and his actually pretty damned hilarious. I think it's definitely an inside joke kind of thing.

JUICE MAYNE MSHC - 3-28-2007 at 06:36 PM

I like both albums...the first much more than the 2nd...but I agree with everything Jason said. I hate British worship.

XHonusWagnerX - 3-28-2007 at 10:51 PM

I sang back ups (and was credited) on the second one!

XHonusWagnerX - 3-28-2007 at 10:54 PM

(almost) NEVER BEFORE SEEN... Original first draft cover art for the 2nd Stars & Stripes record....

Actual cover art for comparison....

Discipline - 3-28-2007 at 11:02 PM

Why the change, to appeal to non-Americans?

thedog - 3-29-2007 at 12:25 AM

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Originally posted by JUICE MAYNE MSHC
I like both albums...the first much more than the 2nd

thedog - 3-29-2007 at 12:27 AM

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On a positive note...I hear Wretched Ones are working on a new album.

this is great news. now we need niblick to put out a new album.

JawnDiablo - 3-29-2007 at 07:45 AM

i need to check these out.....

JawnDiablo - 3-29-2007 at 07:45 AM

i'm not really "in the know " anymore....

Jason the Magnificent - 3-29-2007 at 08:01 AM

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Originally posted by Discipline
Why the change, to appeal to non-Americans?

Yep, would have never sold to their primary market.

XHonusWagnerX - 3-29-2007 at 09:27 AM

Nah... the cover art was changed because Stars & Stripes was never ment to be anything specific. The first record focuses on 'American Oi', but mean thats all they should or planned on being/singing about. The guys in the band are really into soccer and liked the tongue in cheek jokes about pubs etc. The flag was changed to the sheet just because the record was never ment to be a sequal to 'Shaved for Battle'

clevohardcore - 3-29-2007 at 09:35 AM

And to be honet that cover would have made them the posterboy band for American racist skins everywhere. Even though they do not connect with them.

I have never heard this band and will ahve to check this out. Why has no one ever mentioned them before? Esp Honus?

clevohardcore - 3-29-2007 at 09:37 AM

You have got to admit that the original artwork is very powerful though. It could be used as a point of view against anyone against our country. That is pretty intense.

XHonusWagnerX - 3-29-2007 at 10:13 AM

I guess most people dont talk about Stars and Stripes that often because they are an almost completly inactive band. I think they have only played 4-5 shows in the history of the band which goes back probably 15+ years.

Both records are good.... the first one "Shaved for Battle" which was originally on Patriot Records (Chokes lable) was rereleased by Taang! and is easy to find. The second one "One Man Army" is a little tough to find because it was only released in Europe by IScream records, but with a little effort (or eBay) you should be able to find it.

Actually... I THINK that I put one of the Stars & Stripes songs on the comp I made for the Christmas exchange. Its one of the silly songs off of the second record. The song is called "Lets Party"

clevohardcore - 3-29-2007 at 10:19 AM

I just put your cd back in. Hell ya. Good stuff. What did I say about this song 3 months ago? I got to find your christams thread. Its a good recording too.

clevohardcore - 3-29-2007 at 10:20 AM

O and the CREEP DIVISION was great as well. Nice touch.

XHonusWagnerX - 3-29-2007 at 10:24 AM

Creep Division fucking rules! Craig Ahead is a fucking awesome singer!!!

Heres the link to the Christmas CD review thread....
http://www.thorprecords.com/boards/viewthread.php?tid=6914#p...

clevohardcore - 3-29-2007 at 10:43 AM

HONUS

CReep Division- always kick ass. Good choice
Slapshot- Never saw this coming. HAHAAHA
Cross check- never heard but not badTimes expired- they jam with the funk then break it down to old school power. Good stuff
LAst Rights- really good stuff
BIOHAZARD- What record was this off of? I like this alot
Jello w/ Melvins = awsome. I want more of this.
Dino JR- Is that really them? It doesn't sound like them.
Star and Stripes- MORE OI . AWSOME
James gang- Alwasy good
Banjo - good stuff and funny
Molly Hatchet- AHAHAHAHA good stuff
R MEETS R- this jams. This is the PANTERA w/ DAC right?
BEN FOLDS FIVE- wow this si good. I never thought I'd like them
those teeth= howard S
and so on
monster - xholy sXe
assuck = ass suck
white mice= I have no idea
ANTHRAX- alwasy good stuff
Melvins- good
Soulfly - not bad
SUPERJOINT- I'm impressed.

Good stuff. CREEP DIVISION, BIOHAZARD, JELLO, STARS AND STRPIES and BEN FOLDS really stand out. Whats up witht he DINO JR thing though?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I new I had to like that shit. I just went to ebay to look for STARS AND STIPES.

clevohardcore - 3-29-2007 at 10:46 AM

the only thing tht comes up for them under MUSIC and CD is THE BEACH BOYS.

CR83 - 3-29-2007 at 10:53 AM

Damn, I wish I did the x-mas CD thing. Oh well.

I have to hear this Stars and Stripes shit.

XHonusWagnerX - 3-29-2007 at 10:59 AM

Clevo & Chris... if you send me a U2U with your addresses Ill mail you copies of both Stars & Stripes CDs.