Death Before Dishonor

BKT - 4-17-2007 at 03:07 PM

They have a new album coming out on May 22. There is a new song that you can hear on their myspace page. Have a listen sounds good and I can't wait to get my hands on this record.

myspace.com/deathbeforedishonorbhc

MM.

Discipline - 4-17-2007 at 03:19 PM

Bought one of their albums, listened to half of it, sold it.

BKT - 4-17-2007 at 04:16 PM

Great. Thanks for that.

MM.

ENDERA.x - 4-17-2007 at 04:24 PM

they are one of the best bands from boston... you can't deny that... if you like raw sounding/hard stuff with a nice flow.

I'll definelty been getting this album.
They are coming here May 13th.

Bands like this don't come here very often. FUCK!

BKT - 4-17-2007 at 04:31 PM

They are coming to Toronto May 13th? Holy fuck. I will be going to this how for sure. Do you know where thay are playing and who they are playing with?

MM.

Discipline - 4-17-2007 at 04:48 PM

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Originally posted by metal mulisha
Great. Thanks for that.

MM.

You're welcome.

BDx13 - 4-17-2007 at 05:05 PM

i dig 'em, but the new stuff will probably take a while to grow on me.

ENDERA.x - 4-17-2007 at 05:49 PM

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Originally posted by metal mulisha
They are coming to Toronto May 13th? Holy fuck. I will be going to this how for sure. Do you know where thay are playing and who they are playing with?

MM.

THE BRO-DEO
FEAT

MODERN LIFE IS WAR
DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR
TO THE LIONS
THE KILL DECIBEL
FEVER OUT!

SUNDAY MAY 13 - REVERB
TICKETS ON SALE NOW WWW.TICKETWEB.CA + ROTATE THIS

I don't know who made the flyer but the fact that they spelled dishonour that way with the canadian spelling irritates me... it looks funny. haha.

Siczine.com - 4-17-2007 at 06:08 PM

I like Death Before Dishonor but To The Lions is the best band on that show.

Discipline - 4-17-2007 at 07:29 PM

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Originally posted by ENDERA.x

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Originally posted by metal mulisha
They are coming to Toronto May 13th? Holy fuck. I will be going to this how for sure. Do you know where thay are playing and who they are playing with?

MM.

THE BRO-DEO
FEAT

MODERN LIFE IS WAR
DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR
TO THE LIONS
THE KILL DECIBEL
FEVER OUT!

SUNDAY MAY 13 - REVERB
TICKETS ON SALE NOW WWW.TICKETWEB.CA + ROTATE THIS

I don't know who made the flyer but the fact that they spelled dishonour that way with the canadian spelling irritates me... it looks funny. haha.

Where the hell is the BRO-DEO? Never heard of the place.

ENDERA.x - 4-17-2007 at 09:01 PM

loll...

its at the reverb

bro-deo isnt a place
im guessting its the name of the show

upyerbum - 4-17-2007 at 09:09 PM

Is Bro-deo really a wise choice for the name of a hardcore show?

Just sayin'.

tireironsaint - 4-17-2007 at 09:26 PM

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Originally posted by ENDERA.x
they are one of the best bands from boston... you can't deny that

Deny it? Fuck, I'll proclaim it utter bullshit. Boston has a long tradition of putting out some of the best Punk and Hard Core in the world and this band isn't fit to scrub shit stains outta any of those bands shorts.

Six66Mike - 4-17-2007 at 09:55 PM

Haha I back the statement above, I have never gotten into this band no matter how many times I listen to them.

As for the Bro-Deo, there is also shows in London, Hamilton & St. Catharines that MLIW & DBD are doing with other openers.

Toronto has the best openers simply because Fever Out & The Kill Decibel are playing. Check out those bands if you haven't already.

newbreedbrian - 4-17-2007 at 11:26 PM

hmm...think i'll pass on the bro-deo. sounds like a gay porn flick.

Discipline - 4-18-2007 at 10:54 AM

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Originally posted by tireironsaint

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Originally posted by ENDERA.x
they are one of the best bands from boston... you can't deny that

I second that wholeheartedly.

Kid Ugly - 4-18-2007 at 12:11 PM

Death Before Dishonor = mall metal.

sleepwalker - 4-18-2007 at 01:49 PM

this band sucks, there was a death before dishonor before them then it turned into supertouch. much better music than that shit band could ever make.

MyOwnWay - 4-18-2007 at 04:06 PM

DBD is alright. Frankie's project Trust In Few is so freaken good.

No, seriousley, listen to this... http://www.myspace.com/trustinfewpunk

Siczine.com - 4-18-2007 at 05:16 PM

Yeah I really dig that Trust In Few album....and Death Before Dishonor mall metal? Jesus what an inane comment. Last time I checked DBD is far from "metal". Sure they have some metallic undercurrents that seep into their music but they aren't metalcore, metal or anything close.

DaveMoral - 4-18-2007 at 05:57 PM

Friends Family Forever is good, but the full length gets REAL tired after a couple listens. I haven't bothered to listen to this band in ages and probably won't be buying the new one. No appeal anymore.

ENDERA.x - 4-18-2007 at 07:24 PM

Trust In Few are great.

Bro-Deo is a gay fucking name for a show and don't ask me why it's called that I have nothing to do with it.

Ubermike. I assume you haven't seen TKD since some years ago now. They've changed so much it's ridiculous. The last time I saw them which was about a week ago I wasn't into it at ALL. They used to always get me going.

MLIW bore me. To The Lions are great but I do get tired of the vocalist for some reason.

Meh. To each his own.
Fever Out are pretty good but that style still doesn't get me going most of the time. I do like it though of course.

crazyfists28 - 4-18-2007 at 07:25 PM

im getting away from pretty much all metal/core crossover stuff thesedays....

ENDERA.x - 4-18-2007 at 07:28 PM

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Originally posted by Siczine.com
Yeah I really dig that Trust In Few album....and Death Before Dishonor mall metal? Jesus what an inane comment. Last time I checked DBD is far from "metal". Sure they have some metallic undercurrents that seep into their music but they aren't metalcore, metal or anything close.

My thought's exactly. I would'nt even go as far to say that they have any metal parts. They just have a heavier punk - fast - flowing sound - heavier than what most people here like.

But whatever. People can be ignorant and write anything heavy off as being "metal influenced" and therefore not pure hardcore enough for them or whatever... fuck it. We all like our own shit. It's when people constantly throw their opinions into the mix instead of saying a band sucks or has no talent, they could just say that they don't feel it. I know thats the case with me for alot of shit.

For example, Fucked Up bore the hell out of me. Yet, they have one of the best selling records @ Rotate This here... so obviously some people appreciate them, and they are great I just don't feel it. I like the punk style and bands like it but .. jesus christ to me I just stand there and watch them and I don't get into it at all.... I can like more than one thing here I think more people need to be more open to other forms of hardcore and not just stick to the old style anymore, times are changing. Even years back when Madball said "its not 1982 anymore so you cant expect everything to sound the same as it did back then" that still applies today.

While HC has been over run with bullshit. DB4DH are not one of those bullshit bands. Just look into the lyrics, its not like Bury Your Dead we're talking about here.

Fuck...

Might I add that if you are into Trust In Few

look at the people in that band.

"The Live Lineup is.... Frankie (Death Before Dishonor), Rob (Since The Flood), Jamey (Death Threat), Ritchie Krutch (Wisdom In Chains, Out To Win, Boxcutter), and the Peej (Random core kid) special appearance by Larry Aids as the Tarzan Cage Dancer"

They are all from other bands, bands that vary in style totally... from heavy to light. If they can appreciate this style why can't any of you appreciate theres. Jesus...

"In a scene where recycled chug mosh parts and rehashed youthcrew sloppy fast parts run rampant, Trust In Few takes the aggression and reality of hardcore and the spirit of punk and melds them into a fresh explosion of pissed off singalong madness- raw hardcore punk aggression captured in its purest form, ready to be unleashed onto audiences from all walks of life across the globe."

Six66Mike - 4-18-2007 at 08:42 PM

Haha Fucked Up are hyped around the world, I don't get it and never have. Live or otherwise I've never been able to dig that band.

I dig The Kill Decibel's 7" but haven't heard any of the newer stuff yet. Still love em. Fever Out rule, I miss ATMOI though haha.

Discipline - 4-19-2007 at 12:01 AM

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Originally posted by ENDERA

My thought's exactly. I would'nt even go as far to say that they have any metal parts. They just have a heavier punk - fast - flowing sound - heavier than what most people here like.

But whatever. People can be ignorant and write anything heavy off as being "metal influenced" and therefore not pure hardcore enough for them or whatever... fuck it. We all like our own shit. It's when people constantly throw their opinions into the mix instead of saying a band sucks or has no talent, they could just say that they don't feel it. I know thats the case with me for alot of shit.

I can like more than one thing here I think more people need to be more open to other forms of hardcore and not just stick to the old style anymore, times are changing. Even years back when Madball said "its not 1982 anymore so you cant expect everything to sound the same as it did back then" that still applies today.

While HC has been over run with bullshit. DB4DH are not one of those bullshit bands. Just look into the lyrics, its not like Bury Your Dead we're talking about here.

Fuck...

They are all from other bands, bands that vary in style totally... from heavy to light. If they can appreciate this style why can't any of you appreciate theres. Jesus...

To reply to a few points you made:

I bought a DB4D album and my first thought was "metalcore" when I listened to it.

Just because something is "heavy" that doesn't necessarily make it good.

I can appreciate different styles, but I find the style of DB4D to be lame and overdone.

I don't like to think of myself as stuck in the past. I WANT to find new bands that are good. When Slumlords came out a few years ago I was fucking thrilled to find a new band that was so good. I just don't understand why so many bans feel the need to jump on this particular bandwagon. I want to see hardcore live on and prosper, I want to see lots of good bands come out. Unfortunately I don't see that happening.

As for their lyrical content, as previously mentioned, I bought one of their albums. As I listened to the Cookie Monster vocals I found myself laughing at how bad they were. I found this band to be just one of a million Hatebreed-wannabe bands.

Six66Mike - 4-19-2007 at 12:08 AM

Speaking of Slumlords & their early demise, hows Pulling Teeth doing there? Everyone seems to be digging them now. Makes me want to listen to Left For Dead lol.

DaveMoral - 4-19-2007 at 07:46 AM

I really don't see how anyone could say DB4D isn't metalcore... it is. It's just a wall of chug and that gets old so fast it ain't even funny.

Siczine.com - 4-19-2007 at 04:21 PM

Pulling Teeh is awesome and just signed to Deathwish Inc and DBD is still not metalcore.

ENDERA.x - 4-19-2007 at 05:43 PM

I in no way think that just because something is heavy its good.. lol what the hell.

DB4DH a hatebreed wannabe band.. wow.

From the dude in DB4DH whos in Trust In Few, if you read what I put that they said, they are sick of generic chug chug mosh parts and shit... I personally don't find that it's all that band and I tell you I've heard my share of boring generic mosh bands.

And lets get this straight, metalcore is like... as i lay dying/etid/norma jean/darkest hour/it dies today and shit. Basically, metal bands that have breakdowns in their songs... thats about it. Death before dishonor are in no way like that because they are not metal! They don't have solos, crazy guitar riffs, whiny vocals/higher pitched girl screaming style and they don't wear girls pants.

Whatever I'm done with this. I don't aim to change what people think about them here.... I'm just saying what I know and what I've seen.

I'd never thought I'd see so much ignorance before on here.
Sorry fellas.

upyerbum - 4-19-2007 at 05:52 PM

I don't think its ignorance so much as apathy for something that's been done to death.
Now there's a band name "Done To Death". I don't get how one band can be better than another when they all sound pretty much identical, granted some do it better than others.

ENDERA.x - 4-19-2007 at 05:58 PM

Haha. While many bands bore me that are of very similar sound. Some just do it for me. These guys just have a nice flow to me and I get into it... just do. So many bands now a days though that are heavy and whatever style for that matter, over done time and time again... I just stand there like "well this sucks."

Especially punk-youth crew style hardcore. Most of the bands from this area all sound pretty much exactly the same. I fucking hate it.

Where as some time ago, you'd have a bunch of bands from the same city that all had a unique sound but were all part of the same scene. Such as NYHC.

gavin - 4-19-2007 at 06:02 PM

i never heard this band
ima listen now and tell youz what i thinks

Discipline - 4-19-2007 at 06:02 PM

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Originally posted by ENDERA.x
I in no way think that just because something is heavy its good.. lol what the hell.

DB4DH a hatebreed wannabe band.. wow.

From the dude in DB4DH whos in Trust In Few, if you read what I put that they said, they are sick of generic chug chug mosh parts and shit... I personally don't find that it's all that band and I tell you I've heard my share of boring generic mosh bands.

And lets get this straight, metalcore is like... as i lay dying/etid/norma jean/darkest hour/it dies today and shit. Basically, metal bands that have breakdowns in their songs... thats about it. Death before dishonor are in no way like that because they are not metal! They don't have solos, crazy guitar riffs, whiny vocals/higher pitched girl screaming style and they don't wear girls pants.

Crumbsuckers, Merauder, late 80's AF, etc. are considered metalcore. The original metalcore bands were hardcore bands adding some metal aspects to their music, not metal bands adding hardcore elements. Those bands you mentioned are just shitty metal bands. I liked the bands that were the original metalcore bands, the current day bands not so much.

I put DB4D in the same category as 100 Demons, and 1000 other bands. They all sound alike, I can't tell them apart. A whole bunch of chugga chugga bands. It's the cool thing in hardcore these days. Try to sound heavy and brutal like a metal band, but call yourselves a hardcore band.

Simply my opinion, but I don't consider that ignorance. I call the opinion of somebody that's been listening to punk/hardcore/oi for a great number of years. I know what I like, and what I don't. These current bands to me are the opposite of what the hardcore scene was supposed to be.

gavin - 4-19-2007 at 06:07 PM

this band seems faster than most of these type of bands which i guess is a good thing
i dunno
im old
im not interested anymore

BKT - 4-19-2007 at 06:56 PM

Who the fuck cares you fucks. If you like Death Beofre Dishonor then listen to them, and if not piss off.

Bunch of faggots on this shit.

MM.

gavin - 4-19-2007 at 07:05 PM

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Originally posted by metal mulisha
Who the fuck cares you fucks. If you like Death Beofre Dishonor then listen to them, and if not piss off.

Bunch of faggots on this shit.

MM.

people are giving this thing called "opinions"
perhaps you have heard of them

this is a message board
people talk about things on them
people express different "opinions"(there's that word again. look it up) on them

ill say to you if there is a bunch of "faggots" on here, then perhaps you should take your tough internet talk and go somewhere else as you seem to be the only one on here who gets heated about all this stuff and stoops to second grade name calling

i have no problems with anyone who has a different view of something then i do
i have no problem with you even though i disagree with 95% of the shit you say on here
my only beef with you is that you are boring with your "tough" act and your "faggot" name calling shit

its old
you dont have to put on such a hard guy act on here
there's really no reason for it at all

Siczine.com - 4-19-2007 at 07:42 PM

Yeah I agree with Vibes. The point of a messageboard is supposed to exchange thoughts, ideas and most notably opinions. Obviously when more than one person is involved there is going to be a difference of opinion. And that's how it should be. Everyone shouldn't suck everyone off and agree with eveything.

With that said...

Discipline-I totally get you mean that metalcore was founded by hardcore bands adding metal influence into their music. Bands like Integrity are prime examples. But Merauder, All Out War, Integrity, etc., are much more metal influenced than DBD. And I'm with Enderra, I'm not trying to change anyones opinion but while DBD have some chugga riffs they are a lot more influenced by hardcore.

And when it comes to metalcore it is so hard to have a rational discussion. Some people honestly do not know what it is. Most people think it is the commercial brand of metal and hardcore ie As I Lay Dying, Atreyu, etc,. When it comes down to it, metalcore is the most broad term in all genres. It can spawn so many sounds and styles. Everything from All Else Failed to the deathcore stuff like Waking The Cadaver is under the metalcore umbrella.

Hatebreed musically could go either hardcore or metalcore but to me I think the lyrics bring them more towards the hardcore spectrum and the same with DBD.

Siczine.com - 4-19-2007 at 07:51 PM

Hardcore and Metal in general are like wine. People laugh at wine connoisseurs who can tell the most subtle difference in taste between a $2000 bottle and a $500 bottle. Same with metalcore, metal, hardcore. Most if it sounds the same it seems but the ones who listen to it enough should be able to seperate one band from the next.

ENDERA.x - 4-19-2007 at 07:53 PM

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Originally posted by Siczine.com
Hardcore and Metal in general are like wine. People laugh at wine connoisseurs who can tell the most subtle difference in taste between a $2000 bottle and a $500 bottle. Same with metalcore, metal, hardcore. Most if it sounds the same it seems but the ones who listen to it enough should be able to seperate one band from the next.

Exactly ^^ true.

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Originally posted by Discipline
Crumbsuckers, Merauder, late 80's AF, etc. are considered metalcore. The original metalcore bands were hardcore bands adding some metal aspects to their music, not metal bands adding hardcore elements. Those bands you mentioned are just shitty metal bands. I liked the bands that were the original metalcore bands, the current day bands not so much.

I put DB4D in the same category as 100 Demons, and 1000 other bands. They all sound alike, I can't tell them apart. A whole bunch of chugga chugga bands. It's the cool thing in hardcore these days. Try to sound heavy and brutal like a metal band, but call yourselves a hardcore band.

Simply my opinion, but I don't consider that ignorance. I call the opinion of somebody that's been listening to punk/hardcore/oi for a great number of years. I know what I like, and what I don't. These current bands to me are the opposite of what the hardcore scene was supposed to be.

Merauder are definetly very metal.

And yes, metalcore. Real metalcore though, metalcore can be defined as metal - with hardcore influence or hardcore with a metal infuence as far as I'm concerned but if you can't tell 100 demons and death before dishonor apart then you need to listen more carefully in a more objective manner. I know when it comes to electronic music I hate all of it and it all sounds pretty much the fucking same, but I don't know that much about it and everyone swears that theres a difference. Hardly. And we both know anyone that listens to any "rock" with screaming/yelling vocals thinks it all sounds the same. So really. All it takes is a more in tune listen.

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Originally posted by Siczine.com
I think the lyrics bring them more towards the hardcore spectrum and the same with DBD.

Yes, as we talked about before on what hardcore is to us. And I mentioned that to me, its not just a sound. It's more than that! It's about the going out to the shows, the common-interest in a subculture we all can relate in that way. Etc... I'm not going to go into detail on this, but basically yes - the lyrics are very important with a band and I know many do go unnoticed. Friendship, Unity. Dedication. Respect. Seriously...

Whatever! Yes we all like our different shit... we know this.

Six66Mike - 4-19-2007 at 08:41 PM

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Finally someone who has the same point of view on metalcore as me!! Merauder, AF, All Out War...fuck I said before Cro-Mags were metalcore with all their killer metal riffs & shit haha.

Unearth, Darkest Hour and all those popular bands right now are metal with basically nothing core about it. Metalcore is over-used & mever accurate.

Siczine.com - 4-19-2007 at 10:12 PM

No I would call Unearth metalcore...not only are they metal as fuck with some awesome breakdowns but you cant tell me they didnt come up in the hardcore scene. They played Hellfest, when they started they played with just as much HC bands as they did metal. Shit if anything Unearth is the epihany of modern metalcore.

Siczine.com - 4-19-2007 at 10:17 PM

And Discipline are you going to tell me AF are metalcore rather than hardcore? I think if you told Roger Miret that he would have a hearty laugh at that.

ENDERA.x - 4-19-2007 at 11:09 PM

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Originally posted by Siczine.com
No I would call Unearth metalcore...not only are they metal as fuck with some awesome breakdowns but you cant tell me they didnt come up in the hardcore scene. They played Hellfest, when they started they played with just as much HC bands as they did metal. Shit if anything Unearth is the epihany of modern metalcore.

Unearth oh the eulogy days.

They are still a great band, awesome music but you know what. LIVE they aren't SHIT compared to what they were like 5 years ago.

They've become, \m/ mETALLL!

Siczine.com - 4-19-2007 at 11:42 PM

Yeah you can tell they are different dudes now. I remember when Trevor (vocalist) had the cargo pants and short hair with the fade and shit now he's like the stereotypical metal front man.

And I agree they were more nasty back in their Eulogy days but they are still nasty today. They've always had good showmanship haha.

BDx13 - 4-19-2007 at 11:51 PM

i think the 'what is metalcore' debate is actually becoming an annual tradition on this board!

newbreedbrian - 4-19-2007 at 11:53 PM

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Originally posted by metal mulisha
Who the fuck cares you fucks. If you like Death Beofre Dishonor then listen to them, and if not piss off.

Bunch of faggots on this shit.

MM.

truth. as for arguing semantics about metal-core or whatever the fuck no thanks. hardcore is a fucking joke and I'd rather listen to hank williams.

Discipline - 4-20-2007 at 12:05 AM

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Originally posted by Siczine.com
And Discipline are you going to tell me AF are metalcore rather than hardcore? I think if you told Roger Miret that he would have a hearty laugh at that.

AF are a hardcore band, but their late 80's output helped define what became known as metalcore later on. It's also the stuff I like the least from them.

Discipline - 4-20-2007 at 12:07 AM

Whatever, I'm over it. Like them if you want, I still think DB4D sound like another generic band.