Thorp and Sailor's Grave Board

Working Class Hero

Newt80 - 2-28-2005 at 07:53 AM

here's a quetion for you to all ponder. the other night my friend and i were talking about john lennon, we both agreed we liked his music and his messages but we both agreed that he was a sell-out and a total pipe-dreamer.

it's easy for someone with fortune 500 stocks and a sky-rise apartment to belive in pieace and utopia: they aint got shit to worry about!

so in the john lennon song working class hero he states that "a working class hero is something everyone should be." do any of you think this is possible? when the person spreading this message was in fact a rich hippie?

it just makes me wonder if there's hope in this society to defend working people's rights yet make a living off of it.

jonnynewbreed - 2-28-2005 at 08:32 AM

I've got two words for you... Billy Bragg. There is a more relevant working class musician. If it's punk you're looking for check out my band The New Breed. We are a working class band and write about the stuff that gets us down. Either record: Port City Rebels or Off the Beaten Path would do.

bystanderfanzine.com - 2-28-2005 at 11:07 AM

Billy Bragg > the beatles

Discipline - 2-28-2005 at 11:09 AM

Fuck John Lennon. Another stupid drug-addled hippy.

Killthehumans - 2-28-2005 at 11:09 AM

ME>everyone

MyOwnWay - 2-28-2005 at 11:12 AM

I've never been a Beatles fan. I'm familiar with their music thats about it. But I gotta say that track 'Imagine' that Lennon did, one of the best songs radio has played. Now a working class hero, I'd say no...

GabeTexasGAMC - 2-28-2005 at 11:13 AM

i hate hippies.
Id sell out in a second.
Fuck being poor.

Discipline - 2-28-2005 at 11:14 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by GabeTexasGAMC
i hate hippies.
Fuck being poor.


Hells yeah

Newt80 - 2-28-2005 at 04:16 PM

i love Bragg, i think i have about 5-6 of his cd's. i've been meaning to check out his side broject the Blokes. i also have the mermaid avenue collection where him and Wilco got together to creat music for the legendary activist/folk singer Woodie Guthrie. great stuff :)
Quote:
Originally posted by jonnynewbreed
I've got two words for you... Billy Bragg. There is a more relevant working class musician. If it's punk you're looking for check out my band The New Breed. We are a working class band and write about the stuff that gets us down. Either record: Port City Rebels or Off the Beaten Path would do.

gavin - 2-28-2005 at 07:11 PM

lennon came from a working class/poor backround.
he was raised in liverpool, which is a dock town and at the time was the shits.
he made a ton of $ singing song with hius band.
that does not change where he came from.
and if you listen to the rest of the song, he's not saying you should be a working class hero, he is saying that if you are working class, you are fucked.

RomanticViolence - 2-28-2005 at 11:57 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by MrBadVibes
lennon came from a working class/poor backround.
he was raised in liverpool, which is a dock town and at the time was the shits.
he made a ton of $ singing song with hius band.
that does not change where he came from.
and if you listen to the rest of the song, he's not saying you should be a working class hero, he is saying that if you are working class, you are fucked.


Agreed (in some what) Music would not be where it is today if it wasn't for the rebels... being rockin' roll ..heavy metal or Punk

Newt80 - 3-1-2005 at 09:16 AM

true dat before punk and hardcore there was Chuck Berry and B.B. King.