How many murders so far this year in your town?

clevohardcore - 8-1-2007 at 10:05 AM

Lorain Ohio has 7 so far. We are 20 minutes outside/Westside of Cleveland.

This is 1 block away. they found the suspect across the street from me in the Church parking lot/street.

http://www.morningjournal.com/site/news.asp?brd=1699

Glad to be moving.

JawnDiablo - 8-1-2007 at 10:19 AM

Philadelphia ha! we add a few every day!
have to be up to around 240 or so by this week....

Discipline - 8-1-2007 at 11:17 AM

Toronto is at 46.

thedog - 8-1-2007 at 12:09 PM

i live right next to Camden, and just over the bridge from Philly.
both probably have alot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camden,_New_Jersey#High_crime_r...

Based on statistics reported to the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Camden was the third-most dangerous city in the United States during 2002, and has been ranked the nation's most dangerous city in 2004 and 2005.[citation needed] "Most dangerous city" is based on crime statistics in six categories: murder, rape, robbery, aggravated assault, burglary, and auto theft.
City Councilman Ali Sloan-El, responding to 2004 news about the 2003 statistics, cites Camden's poverty as an important contributing factor to its high crime rate. The demographic data from the Census indicates about a third of the city's residents live below the poverty line.

However, in 2005, homicides in Camden dropped sharply, to 34 ? fifteen fewer murders than were reported in 2004.[10] Though Camden's murder rate is still much higher than the national average, the reduction in 2005 was a drop of over thirty percent.

Former mayor Milton Milan was infamous for his connections to organized crime. On June 15, 2001, Milan was sentenced to serve seven years in prison on 14 counts of corruption, including accepting mob payoffs and concealing a $65,000 loan from a drug kingpin.[11]

In 2004, Camden was declared "America's Most Dangerous City" by the Morgan Quitno Corporation,[12] up from third place in 2003 and topping the 354 cities studied.

The city was named "Most Dangerous" again in 2006 out of 369 cities ranked nationwide[13], with Detroit, Michigan and St. Louis, Missouri in second and third place respectively.

In the 2007 survey, Camden dropped down to the fourth spot ? behind St. Louis, Detroit, Memphis, Tennessee and Compton, California ? out of 371 cities included nationwide in the 13th annual Morgan Quitno survey.[14]

JUICE MAYNE MSHC - 8-1-2007 at 12:09 PM

For Memphis, from 1/1/07 to 8/1/07: 82

Siczine.com - 8-1-2007 at 01:38 PM

Too many.

CR83 - 8-1-2007 at 02:24 PM

I'm sure the animals in STL are trying to defend the title:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/12/06/national/main53216...

AP) St. Louis has become the nation's most dangerous city, snapping Detroit's three-year run with that inauspicious label, according to a Kansas company's yearly ranking.

A spokesman for Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick said the city expects to fall farther down the list in coming years.

"Basically, we're not surprised that's Detroit fallen from the top of the list like that," Jamaine Dickens said. "We found that while crime is going up in other parts of country, in Detroit it's going down."

Dickens said crime in the city dropped 5 percent across the board last year. Generally, however, he said he doesn't put much weight behind such rankings.

"Every community is totally different and very unique," Dickens said.

Detroit, however, ranks most dangerous among cities with populations of 500,000 or more.

According to the ranking by Lawrence, Kan.-based Morgan Quitno Press, Flint is the fourth most dangerous among cities with populations between 100,000 and 499,999, while Sterling Heights is the fifth-safest.

St. Louis' marketers and criminologists quickly scoffed, dismissing the findings as another meaningless bid to satisfy America's craving for rankings of everything from college sports teams to the most-beautiful people alive.

"People are inundated with this type of things, and they read it for what it is," the St. Louis Convention and Visitors Commission's Nancy Milton said. "I think people generally look at studies like this with a practiced, critical eye."

Milton said the city's roughly 17 million guests each year wouldn't be coming - or in many cases, returning - to shop, visit the Gateway Arch or the city's historic neighborhoods, or dine at ethnic eateries if they felt threatened. Few, she says, ask beforehand about St. Louis' safety.

Using FBI crime figures for 2001, Morgan Quitno Press declared Amherst, N.Y., America's safest city for the third year in a row, followed by Brick Township, N.J.; Newton, Mass.; and the California communities of Thousand Oaks and Sunnyvale.

Among 271 metropolitan areas ranked, Danbury, Conn., was tapped the nation's safest, while the Memphis area came in as the most dangerous.

On the heels of St. Louis and Detroit among the nation's most-dangerous cities were Atlanta, Gary, Ind., and Baltimore, according to Morgan Quitno's rankings, now in their ninth year.

The rankings are based on a city's rate for six crime categories: murder, rape, robbery, aggravated assault, burglary and motor vehicle theft. All cities of at least 75,000 residents that reported crime data to the FBI for the six crime categories were included in the rankings.

Final 2001 statistics, released by the FBI in October, determined the rankings, Morgan Quitno said. For its methodology, Morgan Quitno plugged crime rates for the six categories per 100,000 population into a formula measuring how a certain city or metropolitan area compared to the national average for a given category.

That outcome then was multiplied by a weight assigned to each crime category. Each of the six crimes was given equal weight so that cities were compared based purely on their crime rates and how they stack up to the national average, the company said.

The weighted numbers then were combined for a city or metro area's final score.
University of Missouri-St. Louis criminologist Scott Decker called the St. Louis-related rankings misleading, arguing they fail to point out the city's 60 percent drop and the steady decline of overall crime here over the past decade.

Scott Morgan, Morgan Quitno's president, said his company's yearly rankings of states in terms of such things as quality of life, health and education seldom get scrutinized. But touchiness over crime rankings comes with the turf, he said.

"As a person who has made a career with numbers, I know they can dance the way you want them to. That's a legitimate argument," he said. "It's a moving target each year, but you need the snapshot to assess yourself against everyone else that's out there.

"I guess I don't understand it hurts someone to know how their city fares on something as basic as the crime rate."

BDx13 - 8-1-2007 at 03:38 PM

the philly inquirer runs a tally in the paper. 244 as of midnight last night. i think last year philly actually had more murders that new york city, which is crazy because there are like four million more people living in new york.

i don't remember the exact number, but baltimore has a ridiculous number of murders per capita. the number itself isn't that high, but compared to the number of people actually in the city... damn!

godabandonedme - 8-1-2007 at 04:24 PM

Philly represent! I get to see em all up close too...

JUICE MAYNE MSHC - 8-1-2007 at 04:39 PM

I googled some of this shit earlier...Philly, Baltimore, Detroit, Memphis, Camden, St Louis, Atlanta, Richmond, and a few other places are all in the top 10 murder capitals.

BDx13 - 8-1-2007 at 05:48 PM

watching the news here is sad. there are a LOT of kids getting killed every day. this past weekend a 16yo shot (and killed) another 16yo in the back, then stole his minibike. dumbass was in jail by tuesday because he was caught pushing the bike through his neighborhood.

JawnDiablo - 8-1-2007 at 06:24 PM

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Originally posted by BD
watching the news here is sad. there are a LOT of kids getting killed every day. this past weekend a 16yo shot (and killed) another 16yo in the back, then stole his minibike. dumbass was in jail by tuesday because he was caught pushing the bike through his neighborhood.

one of the things about that story that is fucked up is the homes in the neighborhood in which that kid lived in go for under $20k. it's a dangerous fuckin place too. why in the world is somebody buying a kid a birthday present like that? a $3000 dirt bike to cruise around in ghetto assed north philly. its a damn 2 stroke kawasaki, youre not even permitted to ride it on the street. besides that its in a part of philly where people get killed over a pair of sneakers, a gold chain or $5. why make your kid a target.
and the kid that killed him's mom...oh heres a good one too. shes like that bike belongs to that dead kid, get it out of our basement. not, oh fuck my kid murdered somebody for a dirtbike.
aside from that, philadelphia, with its incredible murder rate is a great city. all of these murders happen in certain areas and not places that draw tourists, business or entertainment.

DaveMoral - 8-1-2007 at 06:28 PM

^That's cuz poverty is kept FAR away from the touristy areas. It's like that damn near everywhere.

upyerbum - 8-1-2007 at 08:19 PM

I can't find any goddamn stats. But here's where I call home (and if anyone knows how to find this shit, help a brutha' out and check Halifax for me).........shits been goin' banana's...

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia/story/2005/11/25/ns-cri...