Love Songs For The Unloved

JawnDiablo - 8-14-2007 at 08:17 AM

Hadn't listened to this cd in ages. Many consider Just Can't Hate Enough to be their finest, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say it is this one. The lyrical content reminds me of my life when it came out in 1995. Failing relationships, alcohol abuse to the extreme, driving around ganked on speed at 6:00 in the morning. Ahhh to be 20 again. Thank you Rev. Paulie, thank you.....

MyOwnWay - 8-14-2007 at 08:23 AM

Just Cant Hate Enough is my favorite. Like you with Love song, that album is with me. But I will say this album is definitely a solid album. So many great songs on this one.

Jason the Magnificent - 8-14-2007 at 11:08 AM

My favorite "album" is Ugly and Proud. Best overall vibe and I like the raw sound much more than the polished Thanks Fer Nuthin...plus the extra songs don't hurt being they're some of the best tracks.

But as far as favorite overall release I'd say that Blackout Demos CD. Thats some dark dark shit right there.

JawnDiablo - 8-14-2007 at 12:16 PM

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My favorite "album" is Ugly and Proud. Best overall vibe and I like the raw sound much more than the polished Thanks Fer Nuthin...plus the extra songs don't hurt being they're some of the best tracks.

But as far as favorite overall release I'd say that Blackout Demos CD. Thats some dark dark shit right there.

Done All Wrong, and Blowout On Indiana Ave are def some of the best tracks on that record.
I was fortunate to find a No Grounds For Pity demo cassette a few years ago for a reasonable price on ebay. That earlier stuff in them years is killer. All in all, I really find no flaws in anything they did over the years. One of my favorite bands of all time.

Discipline - 8-14-2007 at 12:35 PM

"Ugly & Proud" is my favorite by leaps and bounds. The lyrics, the music, everything was just incredible. Love Songs..., Old, New..., and Just Can't Hate Enough are all tied for second. I wasn't big on Thanks Fer Nuthin, as I prefer the versions on Ugly & Proud. I did like the extra song though, Hymn 13 I think it was called.

gavin - 8-14-2007 at 01:09 PM

yeah hymn 13
its a jethro tull song

JUICE MAYNE MSHC - 8-14-2007 at 02:29 PM

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yeah hymn 13
its a jethro tull song

yes and both versions get stuck in my head for about a year every time I hear them

MikeFromInhuman - 8-14-2007 at 02:58 PM

My absolute least favorite SHEER TERROR record, sorry.
I like about 2 or 3 songs on LSFTU. It was way too Punk for a band like ST.

gavin - 8-14-2007 at 03:12 PM

depends on what one consdiers a "punk" band
sheer terror was alway a punk band to me
from the beginning to the end

JawnDiablo - 8-14-2007 at 03:13 PM

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depends on what one consdiers a "punk" band
sheer terror was alway a punk band to me
from the beginning to the end

my sentiments exactly.

MikeFromInhuman - 8-15-2007 at 09:19 AM

I dont know, of course ST were "Punk", but they were also very metallic and heavy.
When LSFTU came out, I was like "WFT? ST thinks they are Ranicd now?", but I grew to like some songs.

MyOwnWay - 8-15-2007 at 11:46 AM

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When LSFTU came out, I was like "WFT? ST thinks they are Ranicd now?"

You have got to be kidding.

JawnDiablo - 8-15-2007 at 01:39 PM

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When LSFTU came out, I was like "WFT? ST thinks they are Ranicd now?"

You have got to be kidding.

yeah not by a long shot

Discipline - 8-15-2007 at 01:48 PM

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When LSFTU came out, I was like "WFT? ST thinks they are Ranicd now?"

You have got to be kidding.

yeah not by a long shot

Rancid wish they were that good.

MikeFromInhuman - 8-15-2007 at 01:55 PM

I'm dead serious.

Sheer Terror were NEVER EVER as Punk sounding as they were before LSFTU. They were a Hardcore/Metal band. They sounded like the Hardcore CELTIC FROST for years! And on the ep before LSFTU, "Old New...." they didn't sound too Punk either to my ears. That's like a dark Rock record.

M.

gavin - 8-15-2007 at 02:19 PM

love songs has more of an oi sound to it maybe

the thing with sheer terror is that their sound changed with each record but still sounded like the band
ya know what i mean?

JawnDiablo - 8-15-2007 at 03:53 PM

I had Ugly and Proud on in the car on the way into work this morning. I forgot how good those "asshole and proud" tracks were.

Jason the Magnificent - 8-15-2007 at 04:40 PM

A friend of mine mostly into metal loved older Sheer Terror, when I played him LSFTU when it came out he says "What the fuck is this? Pirate music?"

hahaha

Discipline - 8-15-2007 at 04:52 PM

Pirate music? What the fuck is pirate music?

Jason the Magnificent - 8-15-2007 at 05:01 PM

I guess the "oi" sound of it reminded him of pirates? No idea, but next time you listen to it, you'll realize ST was going through their pirate phase, its undeniable.

Kid Ugly - 8-15-2007 at 06:12 PM

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love songs has more of an oi sound to it maybe

the thing with sheer terror is that their sound changed with each record but still sounded like the band
ya know what i mean?

Agreed. This, to me, is the true mark of a quality band.

JawnDiablo - 8-15-2007 at 06:46 PM

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Agreed. This, to me, is the true mark of a quality band.

indeed.

Spoiler - 8-15-2007 at 07:31 PM

I could listen to Ugly and Proud on a daily basis and never get tired of it....it's by far my all time favorite album.

tireironsaint - 8-15-2007 at 11:00 PM

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Agreed. This, to me, is the true mark of a quality band.

Truth.
I think that, if anything, Love Songs has a more Rock 'N Roll sound to it. There's definitely no way in hell it could be compared to Rancid, of all fuckin' things.

Let's see, what's that one spoken part from an old Sheer Terror song? Something like, "This ain't none of that posi-core crap, this is New York Punk Rock and if you don't like it, you can kiss my big, fat, ass."

BDx13 - 8-20-2007 at 05:29 PM

i've been listening to sheer terror for 19 years and i love it all.
that said, i've probably listened to love songs the most since it was released.

mark lind and i were talking about this just a week or two ago...
do you think joe coffee's first cd was that much of a leap in a new direction compared to love songs exclusively.

Discipline - 8-20-2007 at 05:45 PM

The first Joe Coffee cd could be viewed as a logical continuation from Love Songs, but the new J.C. is in a category and class all its own.

gavin - 8-20-2007 at 05:47 PM

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i've been listening to sheer terror for 19 years and i love it all.
that said, i've probably listened to love songs the most since it was released.

mark lind and i were talking about this just a week or two ago...
do you think joe coffee's first cd was that much of a leap in a new direction compared to love songs exclusively.

no not at all
the biggest difference in sound on the sheer terror albums is in the tuning
if you listen to the "riffs" its all pretty much the same sort of vibe, hard punk rock
the "metal" sound in the first few albums was more about the tuning then what weas being played
dig?

JawnDiablo - 8-20-2007 at 05:54 PM

i LOOk at it this way. people progress. some dramaticly some more subtlely. early sheer terror stuff appealed to me as a younger man, full of anger and depression, while later like Joe Coffee appeal to me more as I got older and refined my tastes a bit. My friend Steve said something of that liking to Paul last time we saw them and he thanked him for it. I think he knew where he was coming from with the compliment.

Jason the Magnificent - 8-20-2007 at 06:10 PM

Sheer Terror was one of the most respectable and listenable examples of a band growing that has EVER existed. They started off amazing and ended amazing...there are some high points and low points in between as can be expected with anything. Their lows are todays highs though, thats the problem.

Too bad hardcore is a tribute genre now.

JawnDiablo - 8-20-2007 at 06:17 PM

Too bad hardcore is a tribute genre now.
well said

hardtone - 8-20-2007 at 08:14 PM

You CAN'T go wrong with any Sheer Terror IMO, they did things musically most bands wouldn't even attempt. Every record had a different vibe, yet they never lost their identity. To think they started right in the middle of the 80s youth crew days and came with a sound most people didn?t get at first. My first listen was like ?what the hell is that?, after about 3 spins you would have thought I wrote the songs myself?

tireironsaint - 8-20-2007 at 10:25 PM

I think the first Joe Coffee is pretty close to a direct continuation of the stuff Sheer Terror was toying with on Love Songs, but even closer to what they did on Old, New, Borrowed & Blue. Those two albums both made me see another side of ST that was a bit buried further down on other releases, but in hindsight I can see it all as a nice progression, which I don't think most people noticed when those records came out. I know I sure as fuck felt like that stuff came out of left field when they came out, but I still knew they were amazing songs.

The second Joe Coffee album sounds like the culmination of everything they've been working for, to my ear anyway. It's a big jump from the first record to the second, but at the same time, it's more of an obvious and direct progression than the two previously mentioned Sheer Terror records are as far as leading up to the first JC. I'll be beyond impressed if the next thing they do shows as much growth from this album as this one does from the first, but I won't really be too surprised. I think the only drawback for the Joe Coffee guys now that they've shown what they can do is that I'm really hoping they'll do it again. That album is still my candidate for album of the year (if not past few years) and I have to say that I'll be a little disappointed if their next one doesn't floor me to quite the same extent. And yes, there fuckin' well better be another one, or I will be a very unhappy camper. Not that they'd care about that, but still...

Discipline - 8-21-2007 at 07:37 AM

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I think the only drawback for the Joe Coffee guys now that they've shown what they can do is that I'm really hoping they'll do it again. That album is still my candidate for album of the year (if not past few years) and I have to say that I'll be a little disappointed if their next one doesn't floor me to quite the same extent. And yes, there fuckin' well better be another one, or I will be a very unhappy camper. Not that they'd care about that, but still...

I feel the exact same way. No album has come out in the last few years that I enjoy as much as the new JC. I don't care if they take a few years to come out with a new record if the next one is anywhere near as good as When the Fabric Don't Fit the Frame.