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youz ever see........

gavin - 8-29-2007 at 01:44 PM

the picture of ian stuart and suggs from madness on his moms couch?
pretty interesting stuff

upyerbum - 8-29-2007 at 02:14 PM

Suggs was NF, supposedly.

JawnDiablo - 8-29-2007 at 02:18 PM

lets see.

gavin - 8-29-2007 at 02:20 PM

i heard he was NF in the beginning but changed it up later on
i think a bunch of those english dudes had ties in the NF

JawnDiablo - 8-29-2007 at 02:23 PM

I was in the UD once....

upyerbum - 8-29-2007 at 02:30 PM

I remember hearing about that Madness/NF link years ago, but, yeah, you're right, a lot of those English bands had NF ties back then, especially on the Oi! side of things. Some NF leader made a blunder and said something to the effect of "all the skinheads would be lined up and shot once they gained power", so that kinda' put a damper on recruitment. That one comment inspired a lot of songs too.

DeathByForce - 8-29-2007 at 03:09 PM

Apparently Ian and Suggsy were friends from childhood.



there's the image by the way.

DeathByForce - 8-29-2007 at 03:10 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by MrBadVibes
i heard he was NF in the beginning but changed it up later on
i think a bunch of those english dudes had ties in the NF


yep. it was a different time and a different atmosphere.

CR83 - 8-29-2007 at 04:56 PM

This is so weird. I have been listening to The Oppressed. I looked them up on You Tube and saw that picture in a You Tube Video. I think this is it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0VjoFihyC8

I saw it this morning. This is seriously weird that it came up.

CR83 - 8-29-2007 at 04:57 PM

Yep, minute 1:55

thedog - 8-29-2007 at 08:12 PM

CHANGING THE SUBJECT SLIGHTLY, WHAT WAS YOUR INVOLVEMENT WITH THE MADNESS FILM ?TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT?, ALSO CAN YOU TELL US THE STORY BEHIND THE MUCH REPORTED FRIENDSHIP WITH SUGGSY ?
Suggsy used to be the roadie for Skrewdriver back in 1978 and I went back down to London for a while and stayed at this mothers flat cos he?d moved out of his room and bought a house so I had his room. I was only there for about seven months, that was basically it, the picture was taken in his mums front room. The Madness film was done in about 1981 or something like that, anyway because I didn?t have much money at the time, they just got me on the film, that?s all. I got the agency fee which was about ?60 or something, and that?s why I was in the film.


ARE YOU STILL IN CONTACT WITH SUGGSY, WHEN IS THE LAST TIME THAT YOU HEARD FROM HIM ?
No, I?m not in contact, not since the article in the Sun newspaper, I didn?t try and contact him and he didn?t try and contact me, which is fair enough, he?s got to make a living and if he?s mixing with a nationalist he is gonna find it hard to make a living. We didn?t fall out or anything like that and as far as I know we were still on good terms with eachother, I?ve got nothing against the bloke, he?s done me a lot favours in the past. He?s just trying to make a living. If he wants to make a living like that, its up to him. I?ve got no intention of slagging him off, and why should I ?





the whole interview is here....
http://www.rockorama.com/ian-interview.htm

joemaconmovies - 8-30-2007 at 12:59 AM

i'm gonna feel dumb for asking this but it's late and i'm tired so...what's "NF" stand for.

newbreedbrian - 8-30-2007 at 01:33 AM

National Front

XHonusWagnerX - 8-30-2007 at 07:55 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by joemaconmovies
i'm gonna feel dumb for asking this but it's late and i'm tired so...what's "NF" stand for.


Dont feel stupid, I wasnt sure either.

joemaconmovies - 8-30-2007 at 09:19 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by newbreedbrian
National Front


oh, ok.

and thanks honus.

Discipline - 8-30-2007 at 06:15 PM

Thought of this last night when I was watching The Young Ones. Madness was on two episodes of that show. Good times.

DaveMoral - 8-30-2007 at 06:28 PM

NF gayness. Yeesh.

upyerbum - 8-30-2007 at 06:28 PM

I just heard Madness on a Maxwell House commercial, guess what song?

DaveMoral - 8-30-2007 at 06:41 PM

Couldn't be the only Madness song that anyone ever tends to play could it?

upyerbum - 8-30-2007 at 08:06 PM

Maxwell "House". AAAARRRRRGHHHHHH!!!!!!

tireironsaint - 8-30-2007 at 09:57 PM

I think I remember reading some interview with Suggs where he said something to the effect of he and The One Who Cannot Avoid Trees being roommates in college or some shit. I remembered it because I thought it was pretty funny that someone like Ian Stuart went to college, especially at that time in England. Anyway, he said something about them growing up together and splitting off their separate ways when Stuart started getting involved with The National Front bullshit. Obviously, by that time Madness was already involved with the whole 2 Tone scene and the reason their friendship was swept under the rug was that it was more or less an unthinkable sin to ever be associated with anyone of "those leanings".