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SAW 3 or 4 or whatever.

clevohardcore - 9-11-2007 at 02:12 PM

I saw the preview during the movie last night. My cousin is all about it but its not really my thing. Are these movies really that good? He was going apeshit over it. Says they are the best horror series movies ever. I thought they were teen movie bullshit.

DeathByForce - 9-11-2007 at 02:19 PM

They're not horror movies at all. They're just psycho-thrillers.

JawnDiablo - 9-11-2007 at 02:28 PM

exactly.
yet there was some gross stuff in there.

Siczine.com - 9-11-2007 at 02:35 PM

Saw I was amazing...considering the sad state of affairs the US movie industry has been in over the last decade, especially in regards to these types of movies it was amazing. Saw II was merely a bridge to three and wasn't all that great but still better than half of the shit that comes out and the third one was more gorey than the first and had lots of great twists.

I cannot wait for the 4th one, hopefully it'll conclude one of my favorite series in proper fashion.

JawnDiablo - 9-11-2007 at 03:02 PM

waait, there is a 4th one?

DeathByForce - 9-11-2007 at 03:09 PM

Boring. It's just movies playing on the whole gore aspect. It's a shame that people think that this is what a horror movie is. I miss the good slasher flicks.

joemaconmovies - 9-11-2007 at 03:15 PM

they're working on saw 5 & 6 but the main character is dead. they're whipping this series to death. i'm bored already.

newbreedbrian - 9-11-2007 at 03:53 PM

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Originally posted by DeathByForce
Boring. It's just movies playing on the whole gore aspect. It's a shame that people think that this is what a horror movie is. I miss the good slasher flicks.


If you're talking about Saw I, I can't help but feel like you didn't watch it all the way through. That was an extremely well done movie, and hardly relied on gore at all except to introduce a character. Fucking great psychological thriller that one was. Now if you're talking about Saw II, you're dead on. Cliche paint by numbers characters, terrible storyline, predictable outcomes all the way through. All around a terrible fucking movie. Saw III was much better but nowhere near as good as the first one.

morgan - 9-11-2007 at 04:11 PM

Not a huge fan of the series but they are still better than most of the horror movies that have been released lately. But they really are whiipping the series to death. I can only hope they stop after 4.

Siczine.com - 9-11-2007 at 04:41 PM

Yeah a 5th and 6th one is just too much, there hasn't been a single series that has had more than 2-3 movies.

Murk - 9-11-2007 at 05:04 PM

i've liked 'em all, so far.

Discipline - 9-11-2007 at 05:27 PM

I liked all three. The first was definitely the best overall, but the 2 and 3 were a lot of fun for what they were.

Jason the Magnificent - 9-11-2007 at 05:35 PM

I don't understand people not thinking there isn't good horror going on...just in the past 5 years theres been a resurgence of above average to great horror movies not catering to the PG-13 big draw crowd.


28 Days Later
Cabin Fever
Dog Soldiers
Haute Tension
House of 1000 Corpses
Wrong Turn
The Descent
Wolf Creek
Hostel
Devils Rejects
Silent Hill
the Saw series

plus a few tolerable remakes...
Dawn of the Dead
The Hills Have Eyes
Texas Chainsaw Massacre

plus theres tons of others I haven't had the chance to see, but a lot of the grittiness of the genre is coming back.

morgan - 9-11-2007 at 06:03 PM

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Originally posted by Jason the Magnificent
I don't understand people not thinking there isn't good horror going on...just in the past 5 years theres been a resurgence of above average to great horror movies not catering to the PG-13 big draw crowd.


28 Days Later
Cabin Fever
Dog Soldiers
Haute Tension
House of 1000 Corpses
Wrong Turn
The Descent
Wolf Creek
Hostel
Devils Rejects
Silent Hill
the Saw series

plus a few tolerable remakes...
Dawn of the Dead
The Hills Have Eyes
Texas Chainsaw Massacre

plus theres tons of others I haven't had the chance to see, but a lot of the grittiness of the genre is coming back.


You are right about the genre coming back but for a while the PG-13 bullshit reigned supreme. I will give the first Saw credit for coming out when shit like The Ring and The Grudge were popular.

tireironsaint - 9-11-2007 at 06:18 PM

I saw the first one and thought it was slightly above average for what it was, but definitely nothing special. I had absolutely no desire to see them pull that out into a series as I don't think the character warrants that treatment, so I've never watched 2 or 3 and 4 just looks ridiculous from the previews.

Of course, I will readily admit that I am predisposed to dislike franchises based around a specific character such as Friday The 13th, Halloween, Nightmare On Elm Street and the like. It takes a lot to make me give a shit about stuff that falls in or around the horror genre if it's more than a single movie. I just don't see the point in stretching these movies on and on until they're bad parodies of themselves. Even when I love the original movie, Texas Chainsaw Massacre for example, I have trouble seeing a need for sequels and generally find them to be a huge waste of time as well as a pathetic money grab.

joemaconmovies - 9-11-2007 at 07:59 PM

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Originally posted by Siczine.com
Yeah a 5th and 6th one is just too much, there hasn't been a single series that has had more than 2-3 movies.


they're writing 5 right now and it has a release date for around halloween '08. Tobin Bell has been signed on for 4-6. they're being made.

Siczine.com - 9-11-2007 at 10:44 PM

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Originally posted by morgan
Quote:
Originally posted by Jason the Magnificent
I don't understand people not thinking there isn't good horror going on...just in the past 5 years theres been a resurgence of above average to great horror movies not catering to the PG-13 big draw crowd.


28 Days Later
Cabin Fever
Dog Soldiers
Haute Tension
House of 1000 Corpses
Wrong Turn
The Descent
Wolf Creek
Hostel
Devils Rejects
Silent Hill
the Saw series

plus a few tolerable remakes...
Dawn of the Dead
The Hills Have Eyes
Texas Chainsaw Massacre

plus theres tons of others I haven't had the chance to see, but a lot of the grittiness of the genre is coming back.


You are right about the genre coming back but for a while the PG-13 bullshit reigned supreme. I will give the first Saw credit for coming out when shit like The Ring and The Grudge were popular.


Man, I thought Cabin Fever was horrible. Same with Wrong Turn. But pretty much every other movie you named is good. Really liked Hostel 1, 2 was a big let down.

Murk - 9-11-2007 at 11:18 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jason the Magnificent
I don't understand people not thinking there isn't good horror going on...just in the past 5 years theres been a resurgence of above average to great horror movies not catering to the PG-13 big draw crowd.

28 Days Later
Cabin Fever
Dog Soldiers
Haute Tension
House of 1000 Corpses
Wrong Turn
The Descent
Wolf Creek
Hostel
Devils Rejects
Silent Hill
the Saw series

plus a few tolerable remakes...
Dawn of the Dead
The Hills Have Eyes
Texas Chainsaw Massacre

i had fun watching all those.

i need to see Dog Soldiers again.

tireironsaint - 9-11-2007 at 11:34 PM

Dog Soldiers is awesome. I was just discussing how great that is today with a coworker.

XHonusWagnerX - 9-12-2007 at 09:42 AM

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Originally posted by Murk
i've liked 'em all, so far.

JawnDiablo - 9-12-2007 at 10:05 AM

funny story:
A friend of mine, and my girlfriend's brother too actually,
were in this band.
they were called Dog Soldiers.
years ago.
turned out the drummer, unbeknownst to them, was part of some militia group that had robbed like 15 banks in the midwest and taunted the law enforcement and stuff.
anyway.
one day they are at the studio, and the FBI raided it.
he one FBI dude is like do you know what that name means? about the bannds name and all. dudes like yea....
im not entirely sure but it has something to do with a group on indians who killed an FBI agent or something....

DaveMoral - 9-12-2007 at 06:04 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jason the Magnificent
I don't understand people not thinking there isn't good horror going on...just in the past 5 years theres been a resurgence of above average to great horror movies not catering to the PG-13 big draw crowd.


28 Days Later
Cabin Fever
Dog Soldiers
Haute Tension
House of 1000 Corpses
Wrong Turn
The Descent
Wolf Creek
Hostel
Devils Rejects
Silent Hill
the Saw series

plus a few tolerable remakes...
Dawn of the Dead
The Hills Have Eyes
Texas Chainsaw Massacre

plus theres tons of others I haven't had the chance to see, but a lot of the grittiness of the genre is coming back.


I just watched Silent Hill last night. Creepy as shit. It had that weird surreal other world vibe that'd you'd get with Nightmare on Elm Street in the dream world... but then it had this whole revenge haunting theme that was very Japanese like the Grudge or The Ring. I could dig that movie. Interesting that there was no real resolution for the mother and daughter...

morgan - 9-12-2007 at 08:27 PM

Silent Hill definately nailed the atmosphere of the games.

Murk - 9-12-2007 at 08:31 PM

looking at that list again, i fell asleep during High Tension and Silent Hill.

JawnDiablo - 9-12-2007 at 08:46 PM

was high tension the one that he is getting head from a decapitated head in the beginning?

morgan - 9-12-2007 at 09:08 PM

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Originally posted by juandiablo
was high tension the one that he is getting head from a decapitated head in the beginning?


That would be the one.