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[*] posted on 9-28-2011 at 07:34 PM
A new book on NEW YORK HARDCORE is coming....


A while back in 2008 I was interviewed for a book about NYHC which is now going to see the light of day in November! This is the part 2 to a book that dropped in 1999 by a German author and it is called "NEW YORK CITY HARDCORE VOL 2 - The Sound of the Big Apple" - check it out!

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[*] posted on 11-18-2011 at 01:39 AM


I got my copy in the mail today. Looks great!

Yes, this is LONG, but I could not get it to copy/paste on FACEBOOK for some reason, so here is the Inhuman segment of the book. Again, done in 2008, but holds up well for 2011.






Questions relating to Inhuman A-Z entry:

-You played your first gig on October 13th 1995 in Pennsylvania, is
that
correct? Along with Shutdown? Shutdown has been described as your
brother band, what does that mean?
Answer: Yes, our first show was in Pennsylvania, instead of New York. It just worked out that way. The very next day we did play in NY, in Queens at a place called Castle Heights that my brother Kevin was the promoter at. As for Shutdown, they got us on the show in PA and the singer Mark is my younger brother, so there is the “brother band” connection. That was the first of many shows with Inhuman and Shutdown on the same stage.

- In 1996 you entered the studio to record six songs for a single to
come out on a New Jersey label. The label went bust, what was the name
of the label and what were the circumstances of them folding before
they
ever put out a single release?
Answer: Those 6 songs ended up being half of our first cd, “Evolver” so the tracks were not done in vein. The label that disappeared on us was called Nevermore Records based out of NJ. It was ran by a guy named Joe Kuzemka. He put out a 7” from a band called Autumn and a good compilation too. We did the songs, paid for them ourselves and when the time came after we sent him the tapes, he stopped answering phone calls! It was really odd. Many years later, I got to talk to him via email and in person and he explained that he went through some bad personal problems and went away from Hardcore for a while. At one point, we were going to go over to his house in NJ and hunt him down, ha! As of this writing, he is a friend of mine who I talk to all of the time on instant messenger and emails so we are cool with each other. We are both big horror fans too. So as for the songs, we sent a tape of them to Eyeball Records and they loved it. Eyeball wanted it to be a full length, so they paid for us to go in and do 5 more songs and thus “Evolver” was made. Looking back though, I wish it was just the 6 songs on cd because the recording of the other 5 songs was terrible. But such is life.

-In 1997 you recorded your debut album for Eyeball records, how would
you judge “Evolver” in retrospect?
Answer: Looking back now, I think “Evolver” should have been a cdep like I mentioned earlier. I love the songs on it, but I hate the fact that there are 2 different line-ups on one record, you know? If you have a decent ear, you can totally hear the difference too. Thankfully, the cd sold pretty well and was pressed 2 or 3 times I believe. It got a lot of nice press and there are songs on it like “Theme” and “My Dedication” that Inhuman still does to this day.

-Suburban Voice named the album “record of the year”, which is
quite a feat as they don’t give praise away lightly.
Answer: I was very happy that “Evolver” made the list as one of the best records of 1997 as I highly admire and respect Suburban Voice. I have also seen it listed as one of the best NYHC records of the 90’s and that makes me proud as well.

- “Rebellion” was your second longplayer and a step up from
“Evolver”. Does your voice sound a bit like Choke from Slapshot at times?
Answer: Although it is somewhat taboo to admit it being a NYHC guy, I am and always was a huge fan of Slapshot. As far back as when I started to sing in 1995, I was told that my voice resembled Choke’s and I found that to be quite flattering. Over the years people have compared my voice to Choke, Mike from Judge, Jules Side By Side, John Brannan from Negative Approach and Lou Koller from Sick of It All. I take it all as compliments for sure. At the end of the day, I think I have my own voice though, it just happened to be a mix of those I admire I guess.

- I think “Invisible” was maybe the catchiest song you wrote up to
this point in time, would you agree? Does the “o-o-o-oh” sing-along
remind me a bit of Pennywise’s “Bro Hymn”, a fantastic number?
Answer: Thanks for the compliment. That was the first time Inhuman experimented with a really melodic style and vocal pattern and I think it is a great song. At the time “Invisible” was written, I think Walter ( our ex guitarist) was on an Ignite/Pennywise/California kick, so I’m sure those influences crept in there somewhere. I like a lot of those bands as well, especially Ignite. There is a huge Ignite influence on “Evolver” for sure if you listen close.

- „This Is Not an Exit“ was influenced by the book “American
Psycho”, did you read the book first and then saw the film? Are you reading a lot of fiction?
Answer: The book “American Psycho” came out in 1991 and I bought it in early 1992. The Inhuman song “This Is Not An Exit” was written in 1999 and the film came out in 2000, so we were way ahead of the curve. I love books, especially fiction and horror novels. Lately I am reading a lot of horror stuff from American authors like Jack Ketchum, Brian Keene and Richard Laymon. I have been influenced by writers and film makers about as much as I have by musicians.

- What about the lyrics to “Outsider”? Who are they dedicated to?
You speak of “All the cliques and all the crews, they’re out to make
the hardcore news” ...
Answer: Inhuman from day one have been “outsiders” and in some ways we still are. We were never the “cool” band or the “crew” band or the “straight edge” band, so we had to make our own way and still do. I did make up a crew called the “Brooklyn Bastards” though. But it is just a way of saying you are an Inhuman fan and not a real gang. It has caught on and we now have a bunch of different t-shirts with the “Brooklyn Bastards” on it so it’s cool.



- When did this “darkness” started to creep in into the sound of
Inhuman? Some of you also started to wear T-Shirts of bands like
Sisters of Mercy. I mean, bands like Sheer Terror, Darkside N.Y.C. and maybe even Carnivore also had this dark N.Y.C. element ...
Answer: For me personally, the darkness was always there with Inhuman. You just had to read the lyrics and dig a bit deeper to see it. But in 2000, when Walter left and Joseph James moved over from bass to guitar and Hank stepped in on bass, that was when you could say “Inhuman Part 2” began. In 2000 we made a decision to be the band we wanted to be and look the way we wanted to as well and never looked back since. I have been a Sisters of Mercy fan since 1994 and that picture of me in the Sisters shirt was from 2002. I am still a Sisters fan by the way. But to get to the point, I have always loved dark music. Bands like Sheer Terror, Carnivore and Darkside NYC are all a part of the huge group of influences that make up Inhuman. Along with Sick of It All, Leeway and Gorilla Biscuits as well.

-2000 was not a good year for Inhuman, a lot people left the band, did
you ever think of giving up at this point in time?
Answer: As a matter of fact yes, we did. In the spring of 2000, we did this really bad show in Massachusetts somewhere and afterwards we were all sitting in the van. Then Walter announced he was leaving for good and I contemplated breaking us up right then and there, but I didn’t. Joe and I had a long talk and we decided that he would move over to guitar ( he was the guitarist in a band called Step Aside before joining Inhuman) and our friend/roadie Hank would come in on bass. The rest is history you can say. It may be one of the best things to happen to the band though. It changed everything for the better.

- “Black Reign” was the first release of the “new” Inhuman. I
think the sound was not very good on the four new studio tracks, were they demos or official recordings?
Answer: The sound on “Black Reign” isn’t very good because it actually IS a demo. It was a demo recorded in 2001 that was released in late 2002 as a cdep. We put it out for a few reasons. One was that the label RPP in Belgium really liked it and wanted to put it out. Another reason was that it had been 3 years and no new music from Inhuman and we needed something out there. Also, this cdep got us to Europe, so it wasn’t such a bad thing after all.

-On a song like “Killing Me” your vocals sounded a lot more
versatile and melodic. Was that a conscious decision? Did you start to get influenced a bit more by Punk Rock and Oi!?
Answer: To me, Punk Rock goes hand in hand with Hardcore. One couldn’t have existed without the other. I am a big fan of singers in Hardcore who can actually “sing” like Zoli from Ignite, Eddie Sutton from Leeway and Richie from Underdog. I also love Glenn Danzig and Dave Vanian from The Damned. I knew I could scream pretty well, but I also knew that I had it in me to actually sing a little as well and we gave it a shot with “Killing Me”. We got a lot of good press and radio play from that song and it made us all pretty happy. There are some people who love that aspect of Inhuman and want to hear more songs like “Killing Me” and then there are some who only like our 100% Hardcore songs, which is fine too. Inhuman will always mix it up, otherwise it gets very boring.

In 2003, you toured in Europe for the first time! What kind of feeling
was that for you? Which places in Europe did you like best? How did you
find Europe in compares to NewYork City?
Answer: We had such a great time in Europe. We did 20 shows in 21 days and we didn’t want to go home. We got treated so much better than in the states, got paid better and sold more shirts and cds. It was very expensive and we just about broke even, but I didn’t care. It was a dream come true as silly as that sounds. The best shows were all over Germany for sure. The German HC kids are awesome and have nothing bad to say about them. We are making plans to come back to Europe in late 2008.

Two more records followed “The New Nightmare” and “Last Rites”.
Again on different labels. Do you think it was a problem in the development of Inhuman that you changed labels nearly for every single new release?
Answer: In my opinion, our 2 best records are “the New Nightmare” and “Last Rites” so it matters little what label they are on as long as they are out there and kids can buy them. Do I wish we could have just been on one label for 2 releases in a row? Certainly. But A-F Records and Inhuman were not a good fit and I am glad to not be on that label anymore. Inhuman has not had an easy road with labels and it sucks, but we always land on our feet somehow.

“Last Rites” is a strange title for a new studio album, it does
sound more of a “farewell” or “Best of” kind of album to me.
Answer: “Farewell”? Absolutely not. “Best of”? You can say that to a degree. “Last Rites” takes elements of all of the things that make up Inhuman: Hardcore, Punk and Metal, with a dark twist to it. The title does not imply that the band is breaking up, it has to do with a concept about endings and death to be exact. There are 2 songs on “Last Rites” that were a bit risky for us and they are “The Lost” and “What You Wanted”. But again, many have said those are their favorite tracks on the record so you can never tell what people will think.

I take it that a song like “Brooklyn Bastards” is somehow related
to you as a band?
Answer: Absolutely. Some time in 2000 I believe, Inhuman as asked to play a show in NJ with Skarhead at a hall. The promoter was on the phone with me and he was telling me about these sayings or lines he was putting under the names of each band. He asked me what he should write under Inhuman’s name and I just said “put Brooklyn Bastards” and that was that. The rest of the band liked it and it fit us for sure.

You jammed to “Scratch The Surface” with Lou Koller, is he a friend
of the band, an influence?
Answer: I would say he is both a friend and an influence. In 2003, Sick of It All got Inhuman on 3 shows with them and Most Precious Blood in the Northeast and we got to know each other a bit then. I had been a fan of SOIA’s since 1988 so it was a thrill to be asked to open for them. Then over the years, I would see Lou at shows and at Horror and Comic Book conventions and we formed a friendship through that. In 2006 my brother Jon and I opened up a comic book store called the Brooklyn Monster Factory and Lou comes there and hangs out with us. When we were asked to be on the Black N Blue Bowl for 2008, I asked Lou to do a song with us and he said yes. It was awesome.

Sales wise, what was the most successful Inhuman album?
Answer: I can say with 100% honesty that I do not know the answer to that question. I do know for sure that “Evolver” was pressed 3 times and is out of press. I think 3,000 were made total and Inhuman now owns the rights to it as Eyeball gave it back to me about 2 years ago. “Rebellion” is pretty much out of press in America, but I have no idea who owns it anymore. I think Wreckage/Exit sold the catalog to Go-Kart Records. I’d like to get that back though. “Rebellion” is collectively Inhuman’s least favorite cd by the way, based purely on the recording, not for the songs themselves. “The New Nightmare” may be the biggest seller in America but it had no European release really, at least none that I know of. “Last Rites” is a new cd, but it has an American, European and Japanese release so I have a feeling that it will end up as the biggest seller. I hope it is because it is the one I am most proud of.

Apart from Negative Approach, do you play any covers?
Answer: A better question would be who hasn’t Inhuman covered over the years! We have only recorded covers by Negative Approach, Confusion and The Damned. But in the live setting we have covered The Misfits, Danzig, Bad Brains, Dead Kennedy’s, Social Distortion, Judge, Sick of It All, Leeway, Token Entry, Sex Pistols, Cro-Mags, Agnostic Front, Gorilla Biscuits, Darkside NYC, Sheer Terror and probably more I can’t think of.

Where do you get the inspiration for your lyrics from? I mean, you are
not writing typical hardcore lyrics, a lot of the texts are quite
personal and increasingly darker, more pessimistic, even suicidal?
Answer: The inspiration for me comes mostly from my own life and personal experiences and thoughts. I guess I can finally say what a few songs are about now in print. “Killing Me” is about a girl I was dating and in love with who was a heroin addict, hence the “Killing” in the title. She was this beautiful and amazing girl from California who loved Punk Rock, but was killing herself with drugs and it was in turn, killing me to see it happen and not be able to do much about it. The story has a happy ending though, today she is married and has a daughter and is doing fine. “What You Wanted” is about my ex girlfriend of nearly 4 years. It was a rough breakup and it caused a lot of pain, but I got through it and the song helped. Some of my songs are based in pure fiction too, like “Bloodlust” which was influenced by 2 Dario Argento films “Deep Red” and “Tenebre”, a tribute to Dario if you will.
Then I have songs about how I feel about Hardcore. There is at least one per record about Hardcore, but on “Last Rites” there are 2: “The Dream Is Not Dead” and “Fash-ist”. One is about pride and longevity while the other is about disgust and anger. At least I’m not signing about “unity” and being “stabbed in the back”. That’s been done to death.







Questions relating to “Questions and Answers” section:

What was the first record you bought in your life?
Answer: I don’t remember the first record I ever bought unfortunately. But I do remember the first Hardcore record I ever bought: “Jaybird” by Token Entry. Then, Youth of Today’s “Were Not in This Alone” a week or 2 later. The first 7” I ever bought was the X MARKS THE SPOT compilation. All of this was in 1988.

What was your “life-changing record”, the one which made you
entering the hardcore scene?
Answer: It was a record I didn’t own actually, but one I borrowed for like 3 months and listened to every day. It was “Beneath The Streets” from Token Entry. I was obsessed with it. The cover was a cool cartoon of 4 Hardcore guys (the band) and I thought it was the greatest thing ever. That record spoke to me because I was just like them: a city kid who was a skateboarder, wrote graffiti, and loved Hardcore. Another one was “Break Down The Walls” by Youth of Today. I wanted to be in that “crew” so bad when I was 15! Ha!

What was the first hardcore show you saw live?
Answer: It was May 26th 1988 @ the Ritz in NYC. I was 2 months shy of 15 years old. Supertouch, Token Entry, Murphy’s Law and the Bad Brains. Oddly enough, this was when HR had quit for what I believe was the first time and on vocals was a guy named Taj. What the hell ever became of that guy???

When did you first decide you want to be in a band?
Answer: In 1986 as a young Metal head. I was never any good at sports and I wasn’t the smartest kid in the class. Seeing music videos by Motley Crue, Van Halen and Iron Maiden did it for me. Then I discovered Hardcore and Punk later on and REALLY wanted to play music.

Living in Brooklyn, was it only New York bands that influenced you?
Which ones?
Answer: It wasn’t just NY bands that influenced me. I loved bands from California too like No For An Answer, Chain of Strength and Insted. I also loved Fear, Black Flag and the Circle Jerks too. The NYC bands that influenced me were SOIA, GB, AF, REST IN PIECES, TOKEN ENTRY, YOT, BOLD, JUDGE, ABSOLUTION, MURPHYS LAW and CRO-MAGS. Brooklyn bands I loved were Youth Defense League, Altercation, Carnivore, Lament, Merauder, Darkside NYC and Patterns.



I mean Biohazard are from Brooklyn, how did you judge their constant
bragging about being from Brooklyn?
Answer: Well, here is something many may not know about Biohazard. I mean, older people know this and people who were at Cb’s from say 1988-1990. Biohazard weren’t a part of the NYHC scene back then.
They were a part of the scene at L’amour in Brooklyn, which was more of a Metal/Crossover scene. As a matter of fact, I think Biohazard played one matinee in the late 80’s and it was early on when they were a total Carnivore rip-off band. I was a fan of Biohazard in 1989, but the only place I saw them was at the club L’amour, not Cbgb’s. Being a Brooklyn kid, I was cool with the whole “Brooklyn” thing. No one at Cb’s was waving the Brooklyn flag, it was all about Queens there. But now here it is in the 2000’s and Inhuman represents Brooklyn every time we hit the stage. History repeats itself.





Was there ever a rivalry between the different boroughs of New York,
bands from Brooklyn, Manhattan, the Lower East Side, Long Island,
Staten Island and New Jersey fighting for leadership?
Answer: If there was a rivalry, it wasn’t public. There were fights though, for sure. For example, in the late 80’s and early 90’s there was a large White Power movement in Staten Island and they would fight with Brooklyn and Manhattan people often. But NYC and GBGB’s were the central headquarters for all of the parts of NY. I think it was a pretty united front in NYC for the most part back then.

What role did the original N.Y.C.H.C. scene with bands like Agnostic
Front, Warzone, Cause For Alarm and The Abused play for you and for
Inhuman?
Answer: I started in this scene in 1988, at the second wave, so aside from Agnostic Front, Warzone and others that crossed into the 2nd wave, I have little connection with the first wave of NYHC other than that I like some of it and it paved the way for what came after it. Maybe it is my age, but I always felt that NYHC got better after 1986.

Would you say that Inhuman’s sound is a continuation of the classic
N.Y.C.H.C. sound?
Answer: Yes I would actually. There are times when I think Inhuman would have been a bigger band had we come out in the 80’s, and other times when I think we fit right in with when we came out in the mid 90’s. We continue the classic NYHC sound in spirit and attitude if we aren’t in the actual songwriting. Part of what makes Inhuman Hardcore/Punk is that we make our own way and follow no trends. Just like the classic bands did.
Is there still a N.Y.C.H.C. scene today and how have myspace, youtube
and the internet changed the scene?
Answer: Yes there is absolutely a NYHC scene today. At the Pyramid Club on Avenue A, there are Hardcore shows at least 2 times a month, sometimes more. The closing of Cbgb’s hurt, but thankfully there are places like the Pyramid and even ABC No-Rio where you can see a Hardcore show. There are also small spots in Brooklyn as well. Myspace is the best tool a band can have right now to promote your band for free as well as Youtube, so I have no problems with those sites at all in some respect. You can book a tour through Myspace if you wanted to.

What is your favourite N.Y.C. club?
Answer: As for active clubs, I like The Pyramid and the Knitting Factory. As for old clubs, Cbgb’s and L’amour were my favorites along with Coney Island High and the Wetlands. R.I.P. indeed.

Were you sad to see CBGB’s closing down or did the club no longer
play a role in today’s hardcore scene?
Answer: I was very sad to see it go, but happy I got to not only grow up there, but play there nearly 30 times as well. No matter what anyone says, CBGB’s was still of MAJOR importance to the Hardcore scene when it closed in 2006 and the music scene in general in NYC. But NYC isn’t “old NY” anymore and the Lower East Side died years ago. It’s filled with middle American transplants, yuppies and hipsters, not artists, musicians and freaks like it once was.

What current New York bands apart from Inhuman do you like?
Answer: Both old and new, I like Sick of It All, Murphy’s Law, Agnostic Front, Deathcycle, Celebrity Murders, Merauder, Everyday Dollars, Darkside NYC, Subzero, Step 2 Far, All As One, Bloodclot, Madball. From out of NY, I like Triple Threat and the Mongoloids from NJ and Ceremony and Terror from Cali. I also like The First Step from North Carolina.

How do you judge the fact that a lot of old scene people still cling to
Agnostic Front, Cro-Mags and the like and never give new bands a
chance?
Answer: Well, some people will like what they like and don’t care about newer bands. Inhuman turns 13 this year and to some people we are new, which is insane! The 80’s are over and they aren’t coming back, same for the 90’s. But there are bands that carry the old torch, the old spirit today and those are the bands I tend to like personally.


Is Inhuman only playing to fans of their generation or also to 80’s
veterans?
Answer: I think were playing to both 80’s and 90’s Hardcore fans and we are hopefully appealing to kids from the 2000’s as well. Without the support of new/younger kids you are in trouble. Without the youth, there is no future for Hardcore. Sure you have lifers like myself, but I won’t look too cool in 10 yrs at 45 on stage. NYHC needs more new blood.

Would you say that bands like No Redeeming Social Value are a late
answer to having set all too strict rules of absolute political
correctness within the hardcore scene?
Answer: In some ways yes. But don’t forget before NRSV you had Murphy’s Law who was un-pc. Sheer Terror of course. There aren’t many bands today that are like that. What’s controversial in Hardcore right now? Nothing I can think of. I miss that element. Perhaps it will come back.


You have also toured in Europe, would you say the hardcore scene in
Europe is bigger than in the States? I think the legend of the
N.Y.C.H.C. sound is still very much honored here in Germany.
Answer: I think that Hardcore is bigger and more popular in Europe for sure and it seems like it has been that way for well over a decade.
Metalcore and Emo haven’t fully polluted Europe thankfully.

What do you say of Steven Blush’s book and film “American
Hardcore”?
Answer: On one hand I liked both the book and the film a lot. In the book I loved the chapter about The Misfits and I was pissed that they weren’t in the movie at all! In the movie, it was cool to see footage of one of my favorite first wave bands, SSD. But on the other hand, I am waiting for my era’s movie. The 2nd and 3rd waves of Hardcore. Hardcore didn’t die in 1986, it just completely severed ties with Punk and became it’s own thing, especially in the Northeast.


What do you think of the DVD documentary “N.Y.H.C.”? Did anybody
approach you to take part in the film?
Answer: Well, all of those interviews were conducted in 1995, and in 1995 Inhuman had just begun. I was 8 years into the scene at that point, but the band I was in from 1990-1994, Confusion, was no longer around. If asked, I would have loved to have been interviewed for it though. I have a confession to make. The first time I saw the NYHC documentary was in March 2008! About a month ago, I kid you not. For some reason, I was never interested in seeing it and by the time I was, it was long out of press. I thought it was hilarious. There were parts with District 9 that were funnier than most stand-ups I see on Comedy Central.

Did you ever understand the fact that back in the 80’s people were
going on about bands like Agnostic Front, Cro-Mags, Leeway, Crumbsuckers and Killing Time selling out to Metal?
Answer: By the time I hit the scene, crossover was already a bit old. I fully understood Leeway, Crumbsuckers and AF as being metallic when I first heard them and I had no problem with it. To me, that was the beauty of the late 80’s scene, bands sounded different. Youth of Today didn’t sound like Supertouch, and Leeway didn’t sound like Bold. But they all made up NYHC. I never once thought Killing Time went “Metal” at all. Hell, if anything they went Rock/Grunge on the “Happy Hour” ep, not Metal. In the early 90’s, shit got weird with Token Entry going funk and other bands breaking up left and right. It was during this time that Brooklyn forged it’s own thing with bands like Confusion, Merauder, Lament, Life of Agony, Patterns, Nobody’s Perfect and even Biohazard. It was “our” Hardcore scene after the one at Cb’s ended from 1990-1994. Then of course, NYC came back in a big way by 1995.

Wasn’t that the New York style (maybe it even still is today):
Combining the aggression of Hardcore with the instrumental finesse of Metal?
Answer: I’d say that is a good assessment of Hardcore in general to a degree. Hardcore is the bastard child of Punk Rock. Or even punk’s younger brother who was faster, louder and angrier. NYHC takes elements of both Punk and Metal and makes it it’s own.






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Good stuff, will be reading that tonight when I get home :) Not enough time at work to read it all.



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Mike, I may be mistaken, but did I see in one of your FB posts somewhere along the way that there will be an English version printed eventually?
I'd love to own one, but German print isn't going to do it for me.
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MQ - hey man.
Not sure about that yet. Ill try to find out.




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