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clevohardcore

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posted on 2-25-2008 at 09:10 AM

I'll give you that. Supposedly these guys are STILL edge and VEGAN. That has to say something. And I like EC. I don't care that they release awful records now. THey were the shit and I'll remember that.

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posted on 2-25-2008 at 08:53 PM

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I'll say this for EC, they're still straight edge and vegan and all of them are about 40 years old now.

Like it fucking matters what PERSONAL choices people make? No matter the age. It's not affecting you either way. So to say that they are still sXe or veg is a moot point.

I'm the last person to defend those fucktards and honestly, aside from Dave's comment I had no idea whether they were still on that path or not, but the fact that they are still committed to those ideals is commendable. Having said that, I will say that I find their particular brand of SxE rather repulsive, but at least they have the strength of will to stick to their guns well past the time that most of their following went the easy route.

And what exactly is the easy route? Because I have been ALL kinds of ways and none of them have been easy.

All I was referring to there were the kids who decided to drop their beliefs to "fit in" or be "cool". Joining the herd is a lot easier than standing up for yourself, sober or not.

What he said.

Besides, I think the point is that they aren't reuniting as a band that was made expressly for the purpose of promoting the vegan straight edge lifestyle and then not themselves being vegan straight edge any longer. I find it absolutely disgusting when bands reunite and they don't even practice what they sang about in said band. Take this Strife reunion for example. That was a straight edge band, the fact that half the guys aren't edge anymore means alot.

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posted on 2-25-2008 at 09:29 PM

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I'll say this for EC, they're still straight edge and vegan and all of them are about 40 years old now.

Like it fucking matters what PERSONAL choices people make? No matter the age. It's not affecting you either way. So to say that they are still sXe or veg is a moot point.

And what exactly is the easy route? Because I have been ALL kinds of ways and none of them have been easy.

All I was referring to there were the kids who decided to drop their beliefs to "fit in" or be "cool". Joining the herd is a lot easier than standing up for yourself, sober or not.

It doesn't mean anything. If they wanna play great. Let them play. Edge or not. It doesn't matter.

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posted on 2-25-2008 at 09:59 PM

Doesn't mean anything? Obvious difference aside, imagine a white power band breaking up, some of the members realizing they don't follow that ideology anymore and then reforming the band and singing white power songs. Of course it matters.

Does it matter to me if a person is edge and then decides they'd like to have a drink or something? No, of course not, but that's not the same as the members of a band that was specifically established to sing about that ideology.

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posted on 2-26-2008 at 12:06 AM

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Doesn't mean anything? Obvious difference aside, imagine a white power band breaking up, some of the members realizing they don't follow that ideology anymore and then reforming the band and singing white power songs. Of course it matters.

Does it matter to me if a person is edge and then decides they'd like to have a drink or something? No, of course not, but that's not the same as the members of a band that was specifically established to sing about that ideology.

I understand you're point and agree to an extent. We'll just leave it at that.

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posted on 2-26-2008 at 12:48 AM

I know people on this board like EC, I just never got their sound. I've always been a Slap Shot / Judge type of person if I'm going to listen to the SE style at all.