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HOw long will it be before the idiotic media and public will realise that OBAMA is not BLACK.
The dude is mixed. He is neither black nor just white. He is mixed.
SO why are people that are black simply voting for him because they believe him to be just black.
Also does that make someone "black". What constitutes a "black person".
CHICAGO - Barack Obama would not be leading the Democratic presidential race without the enthusiasm and high turnout of black voters.
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They spearheaded his comeback win in South Carolina, where Obama trounced Hillary Rodham Clinton and John Edwards with the backing of four out of
every five black voters. They provided his margin of victory in many other states, and will play a key role in Tuesday's primary in Mississippi, where
Clinton is the underdog.
But Obama's campaign saw the limits of black support in last week's losses in Ohio and Texas, which kept Clinton's campaign alive. And the role black
voters will play in the next big contest, Pennsylvania's April 22 primary, is unclear.
Moreover, some analysts think it's possible Obama's heavy black support is nudging some working-class white Democrats into Clinton's camp. If true, it
could be an important factor in a contest that remains remarkably tight after a year of campaigning.
Obama, the son of a white mother from Kansas and a black father from Kenya, won slightly more white votes than Clinton in Wisconsin, Virginia and a
few other states last month, helping him to a string of wins and the overall lead in delegates to the party's national convention.
But Clinton won nearly two out of every three white votes in Ohio, and 56 percent of those in Texas, where she also ran well among Latinos.
Strategists are pondering the results, wondering if Pennsylvania's demographic similarities to Ohio will deliver another important win to Clinton in
six weeks.
Ronald Walters, a University of Maryland political scientist who tracks racial trends and is writing a book on Obama, thinks Obama's strong support
from blacks made it easier for some whites in Ohio and Texas to vote for Clinton.
"There's some of that," Walters said in an interview. He pointed to exit polls from Ohio, where 62 percent of all whites lack college degrees and many
are anxious about their jobs in a weak economy.
"This is a racially sensitive group," he said, referring specifically to whites who earn less than $50,000 a year and did not attend college.
"They are the quintessential Reagan Democrats," he said. "They feel they've been left" and their resentment can have social and racial overtones.
Ohio exit polls support Walters' view. Eighteen percent of white Ohio voters said race was an important factor in their decision, and of that group,
three in four voted for Clinton.
In general elections, which pit Democrats against Republicans, the racial sensitivity of white voters has been pronounced and well-documented for
decades. It's a chief cause of the realignment of the South, where blacks remained intensely loyal to the Democratic Party as whites moved to the GOP
by the millions.
In the intraparty world of Democratic primaries, however, racial divisions are much less prevalent, and hard to measure. Many white Democrats,
especially in the South, tend to be liberal, racially tolerant and usually happy to join blacks in opposing Republicans.
The Obama-Clinton rivalry may be straining that comity. Some blacks resented remarks Clinton made in New Hampshire, which they viewed as minimizing
Martin Luther King Jr.'s role in achieving landmark civil rights laws. And after Obama's South Carolina victory on Jan. 26, former President Clinton
seemed to equate the Illinois senator with Jesse Jackson as a candidate who could not draw widespread white support.
Many blacks felt the Clintons "were trying to use race to their political advantage, to cede the black vote to Obama and take the rest," said David
Bositis, senior political analyst for the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies, which tracks issues important to black Americans.
The Clintons said they intended no slights, and many blacks still hold great affection for the former president and his eight-year term. But Hillary
Clinton's sharp-elbowed campaign is alienating others, Bositis said, and it could hurt the New York senator in November if she becomes the nominee.
Bositis said it was unclear whether Obama's black support is driving some working-class whites into Clinton's corner, but he noted the steep drop in
Obama's share of the white vote in Ohio compared to Wisconsin. One possible factor other than race, Bositis said, was Clinton's strong support within
the Ohio Democratic establishment, starting with the governor.
One thing is not in doubt: Obama's candidacy and the closeness of the contest are triggering record turnout among black voters. "In many states, the
black vote has doubled," Bositis said.
Similar turnout in Philadelphia's black neighborhoods could help Obama next month. But he would have to make deeper inroads into Pennsylvania's white
electorate than he did in Ohio if he is to avoid another solid defeat.
Meanwhile, Clinton continues to draw about 10 percent to 20 percent of black voters, who sometimes have to defend their choice.
"She has the most experience," said Elexis Griffin, a black worker at a law office who attended a Clinton fundraiser in Canton, Ohio. "Obama has only
been in the Senate three years. I'm not anti-Barack. I'm just pro-Hillary."
Griffin, who is 25 and considering law school, said, "I sit here almost every single day and hear debating: Hillary or Obama? My closest friends, I
have very much influenced their vote for Hillary. They accuse me of being against the social movement. And I accuse them of voting with their emotions
and not looking at the facts."
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Ice T and black either but they sure love him lol
A lot of people ask me what kind of music I like. I love "soul music". My "soul music" isn’t a style, genre or niche. It’s music that is genuine. It’s
a painful lyric, a dirty bassline, it’s a harrowing vocal, it’s feedback, it’s an anthem, it’s a love song, it’s anarchy. I’ve got my personal
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I know that under slavery laws they were considered black if it could be proven that a person had a drop of black blood in them. It seems kinda fucked
up to me to dispute shit like this, but then again I got an email forwarded from some of my family saying that since Obama was raised Muslim that he's
gonna help Al Qaeda take over the US. There's all kinds of shit people are buying into over this. Personally, I think that whatever the potential
elected official's religion or race is should have no real bearing on the election of them. Why does it matter what his lineage is anyway? The
overwhelming majority of us are mutts to some degree or another but we're more than happy to bring up a certain segment of our lineage when it suits
us, is that somehow not acceptable for someone to do if they happen to be of mixed race as well as or instead of less obvious mixtures?
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I've seen the same emails circulating about the Al Queda thing. Whatever, it's not like the "Christains" that've been running the show for so long
have been doing anything worth bragging about.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by juandiablo
I've seen the same emails circulating about the Al Queda thing. Whatever, it's not like the "Christains" that've been running the show for so long
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Precisely my thoughts. I nearly responded to my family
memebers about that too although it seemed funnier that the same email claiming he was some radical Muslim brought up all kinds of stuff about the
christian church he's a member of in order to point out how they're pro-Africa as if that would make him a bad candidate for some reason. That being
in the same email reminded me that pointing out inconsistencies and flawed logic isn't going to get me anywhere with them.
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Plus the dude wasn't even raised Muslim. Of course, "Muslim" is the same these days as "communist" was in the McCarthy era.
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I got a kick out of this prank email going around.
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Klu Klux Klan Endorses Obama
HISTORICAL EVENT STUNS MILLIONS
February 7th, 2008
by James R. Crowe
DAWSON SPRINGS, KENTUCKY - USA - Imperial Wizard, Ronald Edwards has stated that, "anything is better than Hillary Clinton."
White Christian Supremacist group the Klu Klux Klan has endorsed Barack Obama to be the next President of the United States of America.
Speaking from his Kentucky office in Dawson Springs, the Imperial Wizard exclaimed that anything or anyone is better than having that "crazy ass
bitch" as President.
This is the first time in Klan history that any member of the KKK has ever publicly supported an African American candidate for the presidency.
KKK lodges all over America have been gathering and holding rallies supporting the black presidential candidate.
KKK members in Tennessee rally against Hillary Clinton and support Barack Obama.
Grand Turk Cletus Monroe has also been very vocal about the election and has donated thousands of dollars to Obama's election fund.
"The boy's gonna do it. My Klan group has donated up to $250,000 to the Obama fund. Anything is better than Hillary Clinton. Hell I'll even adopt a
black kid from Africa before I vote for Hillary."
"A few years back we were lynching negroes. Now we're gonna vote for one to be president of the US of motherfu**ing A, damn it! Anyone or anything is
better than Hillary Clinton - anything!!"
Placards for Barack Obama have been put up around the Klan's Headquarters and the KKK have announced a television ad campaign to support the African
American candidate.
Visit our website from our compound located in Dawson Springs, Kentucky
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Grand Turk Cletus Monroe !
that name alone is priceless!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DaveMoral
Plus the dude wasn't even raised Muslim. |
that was my understanding as well.
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The point of this post was that black people throughout the US are voting simply because they believe him to be black, but what constitutes "black" A
drop of black blood? Ok fine, but isn't a insult to his mother who is white? I would be offended if he just claimed one race when he is really
several. Its like his mother doesn't matter. So he is really a drop of black blood AND a drop of white blood.
You can't have your cake and eat it too.
You are both. Not one over the other when it is convenient.
Take for instance Tiger Woods. He doesn't subscribe to either side of both his race. He just does his thing and doesn't let ignorance get involved.
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i'm a little out of my league here because i don't follow his campaign THAT closely, but from what i've read, he doesn't push the race issue that
much, in part because his parents were an interracial couple.
his wife, on the other hand, is know for speaking much more directly to the black community and referencing the challenges african americans have
faced and how important this race is for that demographic.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/96446
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Obama does use this card and uses it very well. He quotes and comapres himself to MLK and even urges people in "urban" communites to organise and vote
for him. In fact he targets them exclusively. Ya its strategy but it rascism.
I am not calling him out because will end up voting for him, but I think its wrong. It's a shady tactic and it is anonying the piss out of me to here
people at school, on the news, and in public admitting they are voting for him simpy becasue of his supposed race AND HE"S NOT EVEN BLACK!!!!!!!!!! or
as we put it black ADN white. He is now a Micheal Jackson song isn't he? In fact that should be his new campaign song.
He is using this race card more than anyone. Oprah Winfrey, Jesse Jackson etc.
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I'm trying very hard to stay away from all the election bullshit, so I'm not sure why I keep getting drawn into this conversation, but here I am
again.
The point I was trying to make earlier is that in the past, people of mixed race have been categorized as black in order to make them out as "less
than white" so it's kind of funny to me that people are up in arms now when someone claiming something that they have a legitimate claim on works to
their advantage.
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on a different note, I for one can't stand the sound of Hillary's voice.
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In the midst of all the Obama bashing emails, I got one that was all about Hillary. It was funny because all they could think of to criticize her for
was for being rude. Don't get me wrong, I can't stand her either, I just think it's funny when other people have mysterious ties to terrorist
organizations being created to slander them and the only thing they could come up with is that Hillary's a bitch.
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In the midst of all the Obama bashing emails, I got one that was all about Hillary. It was funny because all they could think of to criticize her for
was for being rude. Don't get me wrong, I can't stand her either, I just think it's funny when other people have mysterious ties to terrorist
organizations being created to slander them and the only thing they could come up with is that Hillary's a bitch.
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In the midst of all the Obama bashing emails, I got one that was all about Hillary. It was funny because all they could think of to criticize her for
was for being rude. Don't get me wrong, I can't stand her either, I just think it's funny when other people have mysterious ties to terrorist
organizations being created to slander them and the only thing they could come up with is that Hillary's a bitch.
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In the midst of all the Obama bashing emails, I got one that was all about Hillary. It was funny because all they could think of to criticize her for
was for being rude. Don't get me wrong, I can't stand her either, I just think it's funny when other people have mysterious ties to terrorist
organizations being created to slander them and the only thing they could come up with is that Hillary's a bitch.
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In the midst of all the Obama bashing emails, I got one that was all about Hillary. It was funny because all they could think of to criticize her for
was for being rude. Don't get me wrong, I can't stand her either, I just think it's funny when other people have mysterious ties to terrorist
organizations being created to slander them and the only thing they could come up with is that Hillary's a bitch.
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Sorry, my browser freaked out.
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see what happpens
talk shit about policitcs on this board all of sudden browsers start freaking out...
it' not safe and we as a board should just leave it alone
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| Quote: | Originally posted by defstarsteve
see what happpens
talk shit about policitcs on this board all of sudden browsers start freaking out...
it' not safe and we as a board should just leave it alone |
Like they say, it's never wise to discuss politics and religion at a party.
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Obama's church leader is outed for the same thing Obama was screaming about 6 months ago against Romney. Romney's church shunned blacks 140 years agoa
dn Romney had to answer to it. Now Obama doesn't want to answer to what his church leader has been saying for over a year about "white America".
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it struck me the other night that obama looks a little like on of the jungle brothers
If I fail math, there goes my chance at a good job and a happy life full of hard work.
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