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[*] posted on 4-9-2008 at 11:07 PM
INSIDE STRAIGHT EDGE on National geographic Channel


Just watched this while downing a bottle of wine and eating a burritto. Actually a pretty balanced documentary on straight edge. Strangely focuse a little too much on Reno Navada, but other than that not bad. Nice to see Down To Nothing and Ramallah tee shirts sported in the documentary.

After talking to Jeff nelson of Minor Threat on the phone last week for a while, it was rad to see MT lyrics on the screen.

Somehow, I felt impassionned about the show even though I was hypocritically drinking at the same time.

I suppose it was because to me, the whole documentary felt more like a one on hardcore than straight edge.

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[*] posted on 4-9-2008 at 11:09 PM


wow. given the spelling typos above, i probably shouldnt drink any more wine
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[*] posted on 4-9-2008 at 11:42 PM


It's not hypocritical to drink while enjoying something about straight edge. I've spent many nights getting loaded while listening to edge bands.



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[*] posted on 4-10-2008 at 12:03 AM


Was this just on? Playing again soon?



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[*] posted on 4-10-2008 at 12:13 AM


Not sure if it will be on again soon. I just stumbled along on it as it was starting. Pretty cool though. Only guy i knew it though was James from FSU.

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[*] posted on 4-10-2008 at 12:17 AM


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It's not hypocritical to drink while enjoying something about straight edge. I've spent many nights getting loaded while listening to edge bands.


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[*] posted on 4-10-2008 at 06:52 AM


i was channel surfing last night and BANG all of a sudden Roger Miret's mug was on TV. IFC was playing some thing called Punk: Attitude. I caught the tail end of it with Rollins, Bad Brains, Ray Crappo...who looked rather gay, Jello and some others.
a nice surprise.
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[*] posted on 4-10-2008 at 08:02 AM


I DVRed that last night and will probably watch it today when I get home from work. I found out about it at the last minute so Im glad I got to record it.

Dave - if its not playing again or you cant find it in your area, I can get you a VHS copy if youre interested.

Juan - Ill have to try and find 'punk attitude' and see if I can record that. Side note: the picture in your signature is amazing!!




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[*] posted on 4-10-2008 at 08:30 AM


Juan, I watched that Attitude thing last night. That was pretty good.

Honus, managed to watch the Inside Straight Edge from 1 AM to 2 AM. 15 minutes on "posi" 15 minutes on Elgin James and erroneously making FSU look like a straight edge crew... and then 30 minutes on SLC and (mostly, as Andy said) Reno and the whole "is straight edge a gang." In the end, I thought it was somewhat misleading. Plus some new jacks getting edge tattoos and talking about "straight edge brotherhood" which was gay.




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[*] posted on 4-10-2008 at 09:10 AM


I DVR'd the SXE deal last night and got up at 4:45 and watched it. I thought it was pretty balanced but still slanted it as a "gang". That was mainly due to the SLC violence stuff and Nevada just being a violent state.

What I liked about it was obvioulsy the music part (Saw Budah from Blood For Blood) on there. I liked how they posed it as "Your suburban kids have come full circle to abstain. Now some of the group have splintered off into Militans". I thought the whole show was rather though provoking.

I will check out the IFC show for sure.
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[*] posted on 4-10-2008 at 10:15 AM


I dig the fact they used the Edge Day show in Haverhill (I'm a Haverhill girl), I have a few friends that helped out on it. I think it came out well, except who knew the Straight Edge was all about gang violence? Maybe I've just been too busy getting drunk to notice.

It's playing again tonight at 1AM.




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[*] posted on 4-10-2008 at 10:23 AM


damn... how do I join the gang??



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i was channel surfing last night and BANG all of a sudden Roger Miret's mug was on TV. IFC was playing some thing called Punk: Attitude. I caught the tail end of it with Rollins, Bad Brains, Ray Crappo...who looked rather gay, Jello and some others.
a nice surprise.


That's a pretty decent documentary. I have the dvd. It comes with a pile of extra shit.




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[*] posted on 4-10-2008 at 12:28 PM


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[*] posted on 4-10-2008 at 12:31 PM


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damn... how do I join the gang??


Apparently, apply x's to ones hands = Done. Never knew I was a gang banger when I was younger. Good to know, I guess.
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[*] posted on 4-10-2008 at 07:51 PM


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i was channel surfing last night and BANG all of a sudden Roger Miret's mug was on TV. IFC was playing some thing called Punk: Attitude. I caught the tail end of it with Rollins, Bad Brains, Ray Crappo...who looked rather gay, Jello and some others.
a nice surprise.


That's a pretty decent documentary. I have the dvd. It comes with a pile of extra shit.


i may have to get one on netflix if its on there
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I just watched the edge documentary. I think it was kind of shitty. I know that it was only an hour (with comercials), but I feel like you have to go back to the start of the 'movement' in each city to show where it came from. They spent like 30 seconds on Minor Threat with NO mention of any other stuff in DC. They spent 15 minutes on FSU (which IS a gang and is probably less than 50% straight edge) and no mention of the original Boston Crew.

To many young kids too... Oh Im 19 with my full sleeve and my brand new sailor style edge tattoo on my kneck. Time to go practice with my ultra stereotypical moshcore band.

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More friends of mine could start to drink
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[*] posted on 4-10-2008 at 08:02 PM


Hopefully I'll be able to find this online, so far no dice though.



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Hopefully I'll be able to find this online, so far no dice though.


I can make a VHS copy if that helps.




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[*] posted on 4-10-2008 at 08:53 PM


Don't have a VCR any more lol



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[*] posted on 4-10-2008 at 09:04 PM


It comes on : 4/13/08 3:00 PM Central and 4/16/08 5:00PM Central
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[*] posted on 4-11-2008 at 12:19 AM


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It's not hypocritical to drink while enjoying something about straight edge. I've spent many nights getting loaded while listening to edge bands.


I party while enjoying me some xTyrantx all the time. hahhah.

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I just watched the edge documentary. I think it was kind of shitty. I know that it was only an hour (with comercials), but I feel like you have to go back to the start of the 'movement' in each city to show where it came from. They spent like 30 seconds on Minor Threat with NO mention of any other stuff in DC. They spent 15 minutes on FSU (which IS a gang and is probably less than 50% straight edge) and no mention of the original Boston Crew.

To many young kids too... Oh Im 19 with my full sleeve and my brand new sailor style edge tattoo on my kneck. Time to go practice with my ultra stereotypical moshcore band.

TRUE TILL 21!



You lost the edge
and that's not the worst
The sad thing is you're not the first
Our friendship's done, it really hurts
But maybe I could have
All of your old shirts
Your Wide Awake record
and Chung King too
They can't be worth that much to you
Maybe this is not so bad
Because now i own
all the things you had
More friends of mine could start to drink
I could use a new X-watch I think.
You swore you'd be edge to eternity
But now you're pledging a fraternity


My thoughts exactly.

If you're going to talk about straight edge hardasses you should at least mention the Boston Crew and SSD. It bothered me just how much the whole Boston Beatdown video was featured...

Then, of course, with the SLC portion they attributed the bombing of a mink farm and the burning of a McD's to straight edge... which isn't even remotely the reason those kids did either of those things. That's called militant veganism/animal liberation. And, again, what are they going to do? Label every vegan a "gang member" because of a few incidents? Patently rediculous. I like how the dude with the "posi" shirt was saying that two things the authorities do when they label straight edge a "gang" is 1) attract people that are looking for gang-banging to straight edge and 2) mud-sling a lifestyle that is... even for so-called militants... very very positive.




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[*] posted on 4-11-2008 at 07:51 AM


I also think it was lame that theyre was a really long segment on Reno and NOT ONE MENTION of 7 Seconds!



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