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a new face named OBAMA will help! |
i don't even know how honestly i believe him and how much he's just blowing smoke up our asses. i dunno. like i said. i'm fed up so...ignore me.
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i only meant that putting a brown man named Barack Hussein Obama in office would likely affect the opinion of other nations. |
that i do agree with. plus i'd love to give a big fuck you to all the racist red necks who wouldn't vote for him for that reason.
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Lets go Socialist workers party! My presidential candidate is a convicted felon and green card carrying immigrant.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBadVibes
obama is ok i guess
i dunno
i liked him ok until that rev. of his opened his mouth
i know it shouldnt change my opinion of him but it did
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What was it that you didn't like about what the Rev. said? Just curious.
And I think Obama is the 'lesser of two evils' from the Dem party. And McCain isn't bad for a rep. but I still won't vote for him. I wish Ron Paul
still had a chance but as far as I know McCain is locked in as the rep.'s nomination so no chance for Guiliani (noticed someone mention him).
Obama is relying heavily on the race card and this whole "change movement" that Jason echoed on, and man does it reek of (bull)shit.
With that said, I will vote for Obama in the election like I did for him in the primary. He will be under a lot of scrutiny, and sadly just for his
color but I think that may keep him on the right track.
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I think the Reverends statements were great...even if I don't agree with what he said, thats some real fuckin patriotism. I was amazed to see such an
amazing display of honest opinion amongst todays watered down and appeasing nature. Shake things up goddamnit!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by barc0debaby
I think the Reverends statements were great...even if I don't agree with what he said, thats some real fuckin patriotism. I was amazed to see such an
amazing display of honest opinion amongst todays watered down and appeasing nature. Shake things up goddamnit! |
Definitely!
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Got a card to register to vote the other day. It's in the trash can as we speak.
Support the arts, shoot a rapper.
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You should all vote.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Mark Lind
I'd like to think that some of what Obama is saying about getting out of Iraq ASAP is a bit of acceptable lip service. People want to hear that and as
long as he rolls up his sleeves on Day 1 and starts working on it then it makes the promise come true. But in all reality it will have to be a much
more complicated process. I'm excited about the idea of really exploring all the diplomatic avenues available. I feel like our current leadership is
willing to just let it linger on and on. We need solutions. If it turns out to partially be a military solution then so be it. But we need to take
steps in the direction of resolving the problem. That's my 2 cents.
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This is exactly what needs to be done. Not a rapid removal of forces (which could end up being bloodier than the initial invasion) but a change in
policy and a smart method of getting all of us the hell out of here that leaves something tangible and workable intact. What is siad of sacrifice in
this war is true, if we pull out and leave chaos in our wake, the lives of 4000+ has been completley wasted on nothing. We are commited to this now no
matter what.
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4000 soldiers plus all the iraqis.
i saw this graph on another forum:
i don't know if it's accurate but i wouldn't be surprised. although they don't mention iraqi insurgents. moving out too soon would probably add a
whole lot more to the iraqi bar.
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do these people think before they speak?
http://www.nypost.com/seven/05232008/news/nationalnews/why_h...
| Quote: | Hillary Clinton today brought up the assassination of Sen. Robert Kennedy while defending her decision to stay in the race against Barack Obama.
"My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby
Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. I don't understand it," she said, dismissing calls to drop out. |
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My vote...
www.gravel2008.us
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Tie between Lemmy and Larry Flynt.
Silence is golden but violence is platinum. |
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Funny movie.
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i dont like anything any fuckin reverend or such has to say
once i hear of someone who may end up in a position of power having close ties to ANY outspoken religious figure, i turn off.
you come at the king....you best not miss
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBadVibes
i dont like anything any fuckin reverend or such has to say
once i hear of someone who may end up in a position of power having close ties to ANY outspoken religious figure, i turn off.
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I feel ya.
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joemaconmovies
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Siczine.com
| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBadVibes
i dont like anything any fuckin reverend or such has to say
once i hear of someone who may end up in a position of power having close ties to ANY outspoken religious figure, i turn off.
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I feel ya. |
sigh. damn people for having beliefs in a religion.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Siczine.com
| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBadVibes
i dont like anything any fuckin reverend or such has to say
once i hear of someone who may end up in a position of power having close ties to ANY outspoken religious figure, i turn off.
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I feel ya. |
sigh. damn people for having beliefs in a religion. |
no man not at all
i dont knoock anyone for their beliefs
whatever gets ya through the day
what i do have a problem with is its insertion into politics
religion and ones faith has NO PLACE in politics
none
i dont want to hear who is into what religion or what god one prays to
do it on your time
not when you are in a position of power and influence
and not when it will replace common sense and sway one in a decision making position where religion has no place
you come at the king....you best not miss
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joemaconmovies
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBadVibes
| Quote: | Originally posted by joemaconmovies
| Quote: | Originally posted by Siczine.com
| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBadVibes
i dont like anything any fuckin reverend or such has to say
once i hear of someone who may end up in a position of power having close ties to ANY outspoken religious figure, i turn off.
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I feel ya. |
sigh. damn people for having beliefs in a religion. |
no man not at all
i dont knoock anyone for their beliefs
whatever gets ya through the day
what i do have a problem with is its insertion into politics
religion and ones faith has NO PLACE in politics
none
i dont want to hear who is into what religion or what god one prays to
do it on your time
not when you are in a position of power and influence
and not when it will replace common sense and sway one in a decision making position where religion has no place |
it's not his fault the media picked up on it and made it such a huge deal. obama didn't really bring it up. the media did, leaving him no choice but
to answer back. if you have a problem with it blame the media.
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gavin
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBadVibes
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Siczine.com
| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBadVibes
i dont like anything any fuckin reverend or such has to say
once i hear of someone who may end up in a position of power having close ties to ANY outspoken religious figure, i turn off.
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I feel ya. |
sigh. damn people for having beliefs in a religion. |
no man not at all
i dont knoock anyone for their beliefs
whatever gets ya through the day
what i do have a problem with is its insertion into politics
religion and ones faith has NO PLACE in politics
none
i dont want to hear who is into what religion or what god one prays to
do it on your time
not when you are in a position of power and influence
and not when it will replace common sense and sway one in a decision making position where religion has no place |
it's not his fault the media picked up on it and made it such a huge deal. obama didn't really bring it up. the media did, leaving him no choice but
to answer back. if you have a problem with it blame the media. |
i dont blame anyone
im turned off to the fact that he has this close, personal relationship with this outspoken religious figure
is it right that this turns me off?
probably not
but the bottom line is that it did
you come at the king....you best not miss
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there is supposed to be a seperation of chruch and state.
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did he say he was gonna rule by what his rev. said or his religion? if he's pro choice then he's not. and you get my idea. separation of church and
state doesn't mean the guy can't have a personal or close relationship with the rev. of his church. sometimes, when you go to a church for a
while...that does tend to happen. you guys can't give me one good argument other then you hate religion so...i'm done having this conversation.
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dude what the fuck are you arguing about here?
i said my opinion of the guy changed when that stuff came out
i also stated that it may not be right
but its how i feel
im not the one trying to give you a good argument
you're the one who continues to go after what i have said and all i stated was my opinion.
im allowed to not like someone for whatever reason i choose
whether you find it silly or not
i honestly dont know what you are so worked up about other than you may happen to support obama or are religious or both.
either way, more power to you.
im not arguing your opinions or trying to get you to justify them.
i couldn't care less what your or anyones elses political views are on here.
i like the people here regardless of their views on things.
im able to do that and not judge anyone.
im responding to this as nicely as i can as i dont know where you're coming from with the attitude and anger.
carry on........
you come at the king....you best not miss
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I'm not sure that religion doesn't have a place in politics. You'd probably get worked up with Obama was Muslim. Lots of people have just on the rumor
and because of his name. Let alone that guy that got elected to Congress, wanted to take his oath of office on the Qur'an and not the Bible because he
doesn't believe in it and the right wing had a shit fit.
The seperation between Church and state is not, and never was, about keeping people's religious beliefs out of their politics... it's about not having
one religion or denomination of one religion be the state religion and dictate what all others must teach and preach. Let alone allowing people of
other religions or denominations within the same religion hold public office.
Taking into account what a man believes in as the foundation of his morality in the form of the ethics his religion teaches is crucial to considering
a person's qualification for public office. Especially the highest office in the land. I mean, seriously, you want a guy in office whose religion
teaches him that anyone that doesn't follow his religion are literally devils and subhuman? Seeing a person following along with such things can give
you a hint into his character and his most deeply held beliefs. Or let's say a guy believes that its his job, as a good Christian, to do all he can to
hasten the second coming of Jesus and attempt to fulfill prophecies from the book of Revelations about the Temple in Jerusalem being rebuilt or other
such things that would only cause further discord? I think that's worthwhile stuff to know.
Besides, why get worked up about Rev Wright? The very sermon the dude was quoted out of context from he says "oppressors aren't just white" and goes
on about the Egyptian tyrants and their enslavement of the Hebrews. I read the transcript of that sermon, and I found nothing objectionable. Take the
shit out of context and away from the whole scope of the speech and you're going to provoke "Yikes, that negra hates whitey!" But shit, what's up with
white America that most of us expect black people, or brown people or red people NOT to be pissed off about the benefit that white America has taken
from the exploitation or decimation of their people and cultures? Fact of the matter is, we live in a white power nation and it shows. There is not
equal opportunity for all here, and there are folks that are pissed off about the raw deal they got from a white power society.
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"if one continues to dwell in the past, one will have no future"
geoffrey p. gavin 5-28-08
you come at the king....you best not miss
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