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[*] posted on 12-6-2008 at 01:43 AM


Yes Mark, there's some of us here with the sense to realize that Black Sabbath is fucking shit.
As for the comment that Led Zeppelin were great, the only thing they were ever great at is appropriating other people's music and not giving them any credit.




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[*] posted on 12-6-2008 at 08:49 AM


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Yes Mark, there's some of us here with the sense to realize that Black Sabbath is fucking shit.
As for the comment that Led Zeppelin were great, the only thing they were ever great at is appropriating other people's music and not giving them any credit.


That's partially true (the Who, etc), but their playing was actually groundbreaking. As far as a bands' "playing ability" goes, there's been few at their level (including those who they appropriated from).

Sabbath is shit?? Really? Do you like anything that doesn't fall into "punk, hardcore or oi" categories?
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[*] posted on 12-6-2008 at 09:55 AM


I love tons of stuff that doesn't fall into those categories. In fact, here we are in a thread talking about bands well outside any of those genres. Yes, we're now discussing two that I can't stand, but my first post in this thread mentioned how much I love The Rolling Stones and Elvis. I also listen to a lot of Blues, just picked up an amazing Howlin' Wolf box set, actually. I have a lot of love for old Rock N Roll, Outlaw and/or Old School Country, Rockabilly, Ska/Reggae, and on and on.

While I fully realize that there are bands I love that claim a Sabbath influence, I can't stand the actual band myself. I understand the impact they had and can appreciate that, but the sum of the parts is hellishly annoying to me.




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[*] posted on 12-6-2008 at 03:18 PM


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While I fully realize that there are bands I love that claim a Sabbath influence, I can't stand the actual band myself. I understand the impact they had and can appreciate that, but the sum of the parts is hellishly annoying to me.




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[*] posted on 12-6-2008 at 03:53 PM


I love Sabbath with Ozzy, but after that they turned to shit.



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[*] posted on 12-6-2008 at 10:52 PM


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I love tons of stuff that doesn't fall into those categories. In fact, here we are in a thread talking about bands well outside any of those genres. Yes, we're now discussing two that I can't stand, but my first post in this thread mentioned how much I love The Rolling Stones and Elvis. I also listen to a lot of Blues, just picked up an amazing Howlin' Wolf box set, actually. I have a lot of love for old Rock N Roll, Outlaw and/or Old School Country, Rockabilly, Ska/Reggae, and on and on.


I don't know for sure, but I'm assuming you're in your late 30s/early 40s? If so, that's all stuff I'd expect to find in the collection of an old oi boy/skin in that age group. (I actually should have included Johnny Cash/Rockabilly and ska as part of "oi" since it's so commonplace for skins.)
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[*] posted on 12-6-2008 at 11:05 PM


I'm 28 and I love Howlin' Wolf. :saint2:

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[*] posted on 12-6-2008 at 11:19 PM


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I love tons of stuff that doesn't fall into those categories. In fact, here we are in a thread talking about bands well outside any of those genres. Yes, we're now discussing two that I can't stand, but my first post in this thread mentioned how much I love The Rolling Stones and Elvis. I also listen to a lot of Blues, just picked up an amazing Howlin' Wolf box set, actually. I have a lot of love for old Rock N Roll, Outlaw and/or Old School Country, Rockabilly, Ska/Reggae, and on and on.


I don't know for sure, but I'm assuming you're in your late 30s/early 40s? If so, that's all stuff I'd expect to find in the collection of an old oi boy/skin in that age group. (I actually should have included Johnny Cash/Rockabilly and ska as part of "oi" since it's so commonplace for skins.)
I don't know if it's your intention or not, but this comes off sounding really assholish and condescending, just like the majority of the posts you made right after you joined this board. Maybe you should take a look at how you talk to people and do something about this high horse riding, know it all motherfucker persona of yours. Just a thought, champ.



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[*] posted on 12-6-2008 at 11:26 PM


Well said. :)
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I love tons of stuff that doesn't fall into those categories. In fact, here we are in a thread talking about bands well outside any of those genres. Yes, we're now discussing two that I can't stand, but my first post in this thread mentioned how much I love The Rolling Stones and Elvis. I also listen to a lot of Blues, just picked up an amazing Howlin' Wolf box set, actually. I have a lot of love for old Rock N Roll, Outlaw and/or Old School Country, Rockabilly, Ska/Reggae, and on and on.


I don't know for sure, but I'm assuming you're in your late 30s/early 40s? If so, that's all stuff I'd expect to find in the collection of an old oi boy/skin in that age group. (I actually should have included Johnny Cash/Rockabilly and ska as part of "oi" since it's so commonplace for skins.)
I don't know if it's your intention or not, but this comes off sounding really assholish and condescending, just like the majority of the posts you made right after you joined this board. Maybe you should take a look at how you talk to people and do something about this high horse riding, know it all motherfucker persona of yours. Just a thought, champ.


Hmm, how do I respond to this, bub? Let's see....
First off, I don't really see how ANYTHING has changed since I joined here. My general attitude is pretty much always the same and my tone in posting (and in real life).

Second, I don't see much "assholish (nice creation of a word) and high horse riding" about what I posted. Would it have been better if I'd phrased it like this:
"Those are all somewhat logical musical continuations from the skinhead/oi boy scene as you mature. I should have included them in my original comment."
How's that, chief?

And maybe you should worry less about what someone on the internet says? But, I've had plenty of time to "think about how I speak to people," thanks for your concern, champ. It's worked well for 31 years (well, less than that since we don't speak for some time, but I digress) and your "suggestion" is "noted" and filed.
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[*] posted on 12-8-2008 at 12:59 AM


It seemed like up until just recently you had decided not to play internet tough guy, but I guess you've gone back to that. For a while there I was starting to think maybe I had gotten the wrong impression of you.

Your post came across with a tone that implies that I fit some mold just as you expect, which is a snotty, condescending way to talk to anyone, let alone someone you don't know.

Gotta admit though, the way you try to jump on my way of talking as a jab back at me is pretty amusing.




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[*] posted on 12-8-2008 at 04:17 AM


Wow, disagreeing with someone is internet tough guy? Had no idea. I'm opinionated, and will go to great lengths to support my opinions.

Actually, it makes more sense to take that opinion with someone you don't know. You've, in many threads, made it pretty clear what your tastes are, musically. Don't think there's really anything wrong, snotty, condescending to drawing conclusions based on what you know. And in this case, its that people that listen to certain shit and of a certain age tend to have similar patterns. I make a living by knowing and tracking people in different demos likes and dislikes. Everyone fits a mold to some extent.

I jumped on your way of talking?? I made 1 comment about you making up a word. I think you might be a LITTLE too sensitive.
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