XHonusWagnerX
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you hate your records if you dont play them on this....
http://www.needledoctor.com/Clearaudio-Statement-Turntable?s...
Clearaudio Statement Turntable
The Clearaudio Statement turntable with its integral stand represents the state of the art. It is the result of more than 28 years of research and
development.
Clearaudio Statement Features
Patented magnetic-driven sub-platter (makes no contact with main platter)
Additional magnetic vertical platter bearing
All platters dynamically balanced
Kardan turntable chassis suspension
Automatic horizontal levelling device including tonearm platforms (no air pump or compressor)
80kg pendulum weight for self levelling of top platform
High speed microprocessor-controlled motor drive unit (as used in Mars Rover)
Oil damping devices for the main turntable chassis
Real-time speed control and active blue LCD display
Ergonomic fine speed adjustment (33, 45 and 78rpm)
Accommodates up to four different tonearms
Complete resonance control via damped and sandwiched bullet-proof wood (Panzer Holz), stainless steel and acrylic construction
Total weight approximately 350kg (770lbs)
Dimensions: 69cmWx57cmDx125cmH
| Quote: | Originally posted by REV.PAULIE
HONUS-as much as i can't stand a great deal of what you really like (for my own reasons that i would never hold,nor impose,against you),YOU FUCKING
RULE!
YOU,HONUS,IS WHAT MAKES THE "EDGE" COOL.
YOUR FRIEND,
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And don't forget that you need this for an additional $10,000.
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holy fuck.......
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for that amount of money it should suck your dick too. 
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beyond the sheer ridiculousness of "let's build this monstrosity for kicks" i don't see the point. is there really a market for this thing?
The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, ?You know, I want to set those people over there on
fire, but I?m just not close enough to get the job done.? George Carlin
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There is in a world of $5,000 shower curtains and $1,000 trash cans.
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I have 3 of these, they are really nice.
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BDx13
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well said, barc0de.
to be fair, i did listen to a $3000 turntable at an audio shop in berkeley that was unlike anything i had ever heard. obviously, they weren't playing
the crap we listen to!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BD
well said, barc0de.
to be fair, i did listen to a $3000 turntable at an audio shop in berkeley that was unlike anything i had ever heard. obviously, they weren't playing
the crap we listen to! |
don't get me wrong, good quality audio equipment/instruments/amps and really whatever anyone is into is one thing. i've got no problem with that
whatsoever. i wouldn't question the turntable for 3 large at all. this one just happens to be $150,000 and weigh 770lbs.
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fire, but I?m just not close enough to get the job done.? George Carlin
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It's pretty damn ugly too, I wouldn't want it in my house.
A lot of people ask me what kind of music I like. I love "soul music". My "soul music" isn’t a style, genre or niche. It’s music that is genuine. It’s
a painful lyric, a dirty bassline, it’s a harrowing vocal, it’s feedback, it’s an anthem, it’s a love song, it’s anarchy. I’ve got my personal
favourites but in the end it doesn’t matter who or where it comes from... so long as it’s good and it's real.
- Paul Morris, music director at 97.7 HTZ-FM
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XnMeX
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Isn't the whole point if vinyl to have that vinyl sound? Kinda defeats the purpose, just get a cd.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by XnMeX
Isn't the whole point if vinyl to have that vinyl sound? Kinda defeats the purpose, just get a cd. |
Well maintained vinyl to audiophiles is a better sound than CD. If you have the proper equipment. You're not supposed to be hearing crackles and stuff
like we normally do...
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^Nobody has had the "right" equipment since for fucking ever then!
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Personally I think the crackles and white noise add to the experience of listening to something on vinyl instead of the cd or a digital format.
Support the arts, shoot a rapper.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by morgan
Personally I think the crackles and white noise add to the experience of listening to something on vinyl instead of the cd or a digital format.
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100% agreed!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by morgan
Personally I think the crackles and white noise add to the experience of listening to something on vinyl instead of the cd or a digital format.
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Yeah, that is what I meant to say. Music does not get any more clear than digital / cd, so if that is what people want, vinyl is not the way to go.
Vinyl noise = charm.
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BDx13
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classical music on clean vinyl with a decent setup sounds absolutely amazing.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by XnMeX
| Quote: | Originally posted by morgan
Personally I think the crackles and white noise add to the experience of listening to something on vinyl instead of the cd or a digital format.
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Music does not get any more clear than digital / cd, so if that is what people want, vinyl is not the way to go. |
again, not true. see Big D's post above. I love vinyl and crackle, but to a true audophile there is no richer and cleaner sound than clean vinyl on a
top end turn table. Way beyond my scope of money and interest though.
these people believe CD's are the devil.
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I don't believe that vinyl could ever have a more clear sound than a high bitrate mp3. So, it's just 2 schools of thought.
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You're gravitating too much on the clear portion and not the rich I think. Though I don't see how anyone can actually hear the difference myself.
I'm pretty sure its 20% real and 80% snobbery, but heres a fairly broken down explanation.
"The key to this question is the difference between a digital and an
analog recording. Natural sound is by definition analog.
When a CD recording is created, this analog is sound is digitized. To
do this, they take a lot of snapshots of the analog sound. For a CD
recording they take 44,100 snapshots in a minute. These snapshots are
then converted to digital information with a certain precision. For a
CD recording this precision is 16 bits which means that every one of
the 44,100 snapshots needs to be converted into one of the 65,536
(2^16) possible values.
You can probably see where I am going: by definition a digital
recording doesn't include all the sound information. You could
visualize a CD recording as a really large chest with a lot of
drawers. Because the number of snapshots that are taken are not
infinite (the maximum is 44,100 per minute), the process of taking
snapshots results in the loss of information. Information is further
lost because each of these snapshots must be made to fit in one of the
65,536 drawers of the chest.
A record player which plays LP?s is strictly analog. A vinyl record
has a groove carved into it that mirrors the original sound's
waveform. The record player than transforms this groove to an analogue
sound signal which can be fed into an amplifier.
In this process, no information can be lost. No snapshots need to be
taken and the sound doesn't need be converted to one of the possible
65,536 values. There basically is an infinite number of 'snapshots'
and 'possible values'. Therefore vinyl recording sound richer than CD
recordings (as long as you have a decent vinyl record player).
Be aware that recent DVD Audio players and Super Audio CD players come
closer to vinyl recordings as they have a much larger number of
possible snapshots in one minute (up to 192,000) and because these
snapshots can be converted to a larger number of possible values (up
to 16,777,216 possible values, or 24 bit)."
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That description also requires us to believe that there exists a vinyl presser that can accurately capture that infinite number of possible pressings,
and I do not believe for one second that's true. If it were, it might be a valid point (but I still think there's some wicked cool shit in theater
digital surround sound that's not captured in analog). But if it were true, digital recordings also wouldn't be limited in the way they are described
as being, as the limitations are due to technological shortcomings that would certainly be present in existing vinyl-pressing technology.
Bottom line, it's fucking snobbery. Do they prefer the vinyl sound that can't be captured on vinyl? Sure. But don't give me some bullshit about how
these pressing plates are so fucking accurate that they recreate the exact sound with absolute precision and that digital is a step backwards. You
just like the vinyl sound. Fine. Admit it.
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