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Holy Fuck...i cannot believe this.......
FUCKING UNBELIEVABLE...
http://www.calgaryherald.com/Health/Ruling+expected+beheadin...
WINNIPEG The man who beheaded a passenger on a Greyhound bus in one of the most gruesome crimes in Canadian history has been found not guilty of
second-degree murder.
Queen's Bench Justice John Scurfield ruled Thursday morning that Vincent Li was not criminally responsible for his nightmarish actions of July 30,
2008, when he killed 22-year-old Tim McLean near Portage la Prairie, Man.
Details of the crime which made news around the globe emerged this week at a trial marked by tight security and fears that vigilantes might try to
harm the 40-year-old Li.
Li was hearing voices in his head which he believed came from God telling him to eliminate "the force of evil" by attacking the sleeping McLean,
psychiatrists said.
Li stabbed the carnival worker to death, then beheaded and cannibalized the body.
Terrified passengers fled the bus with RCMP officers arriving on scene only to watch for several hours as Li continued to stab and defile McLean's
body.
He was seen by police eating some of McLean's remains. Police later discovered McLean's eyes, part of his heart and other pieces of his flesh were
missing.
That Li committed the crime was never in doubt. All that the judge was asked to determine was Li's mental state at the time a finding which would
decide whether he would be sent to prison or a mental hospital.
Both the Crown and defence argued in favour of finding Li not criminally responsible.
Dr. Jonathan Rootenberg, a forensic psychiatrist who met with Li at the request of his lawyers, told court Wednesday he believes Li didn't know what
he was doing when attacked the sleeping McLean without warning or provocation.
"He certainly didn't know it was wrong. He was quite psychotic during that time period," said Rootenberg. He said Li likely didn't view McLean as a
"human being" as he attacked him.
"He viewed the unfortunate victim as a demon. He believes it wasn't his hands doing that, but it was God's hands, through him."
Rootenberg echoed the findings of the Crown's lone witness, Dr. Stanley Yaren, who told court this week how Li claims voices from God in his head
caused him to single out McLean for death.
Yaren said Li is slowly beginning to realize what he's done, but still doesn't accept the fact he consumed some of McLean's body parts.
"It may be he's blocked it from his consciousness . . . that it's just too awful for him to contemplate," he said.
Yaren believes Li could make a significant recovery in the next few years under rigorous treatment and medication, but still continues suffering some
delusions, including a belief he will one day be executed.
"He is not 100 per cent out of his psychotic phase yet," he said. "But over time, as he recovers, he will have to come to terms with the awful things
that have occurred."
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Yeah, I'm pretty pissed about that.
Do you know what a love letter is? Its a bullet from a fucking gun. Straight through your heart.
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I wish we could just put a bullet in his head and be done with him. Fuck Canada and its bleeding heart justice system.
You know its funny, there are so many assholes running around that believe in God, but the second God talks to someone the person is deemed as insane.
Its ok to have a fucking imaginary friend, but if he talks to you then you are crazy. Whatever you cunts.
MM.
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I feel like that sets a president that no on can be guilty of any crime! Thats nuts!
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If someone is that crazy to not know better, isn't it better to keep him out of society? I hate the insanity plea. Yeah they are fucked up, if they
weren't they wouldn't cut peoples heads off. Punishment should fit the crime in my mind. Call me crazy. Off with his head. God told me to say that.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ShawnRefuse
Off with his head. God told me to say that. |
Suits me just fine. Seriously though what the fuck? Does anyone else think that if a person is insane they should be as far removed from society as
possible? Don't send somebody to a mental institution for a few years then let them back loose in society, lock their ass up in prison for as long as
you can or fix the problem entirely with the death penalty.
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It's not only Canada that wouldn't punish the guy for being criminally insane. The US would put him in a psych ward or something.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by metal mulisha
I wish we could just put a bullet in his head and be done with him. Fuck Canada and its bleeding heart justice system.
You know its funny, there are so many assholes running around that believe in God, but the second God talks to someone the person is deemed as insane.
Its ok to have a fucking imaginary friend, but if he talks to you then you are crazy. Whatever you cunts.
MM. |
Exactly. Our justice system treats criminals better than it treats the victims of violent crimes.
Do you know what a love letter is? Its a bullet from a fucking gun. Straight through your heart.
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treat him for his "illness", then when he's fit, send his ass to prison, for the rest of his life.....not back out on the streets. so that the voices,
can come back again, and another person, loses a life...
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You think it sucks for us to know that this fucking asshole is not guilty. Imagine what the victims family is thinking. I am pissed about this.
Each aspect of the soul has it's own part to play, but the ideal is harmonious agreement with reason and control.
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i hate lawyers.
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He never should have walked off that bus.
Well, its this place where nobody works, and the pigs don\'t give you any shit. Everyone smokes weed and gets drunk all day. Its a place where
cunts like me and you can truly take it easy and relax. Know what I mean?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by upyerbum
He never should have walked off that bus. |
That's the biggest crime.
But, this dude is never going to get out of the institution he's in. I generally hate the insanity defense as much as anyone, but, this seems pretty
legit.
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Yeah.... he'll never get out again. What's the benefit of putting him in prison? He'd just have the potential to kill another person in general
population. They'll have him in a rubber room until the day he dies.
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So basically this guy gets a free ride to sit on his ass, take meds and watch tv for the rest of his life while the tax payers pay for it...
no fear of the bubba late night encounters, no big punishment at all...
all he has to do is drool a little, speak in tongues, and he gets a remote control, 3 healthy square meals and no more bills or rent...
i'm not a fan of capitol punishment, but the dude eat a motherfucker on the bus....
a ton of fucking witnessses
dude did it... and needs to pay for his crime
if his god spoke that clearly to him, than he can discuss this more with his god face to face.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by defstarsteve
the dude eat a motherfucker on the bus.... |
I am not one for capitol punishment, but that sums it up right there. I am not one for get out of jail free cards either. Let him hold his own in jail
for the rest of his life (which I am sure wouldn't be long if any of the prisoners had a say) not a vacation.
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this inspires me to decapitate a mother fucker on a bus and eat his still-beating heart.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by defstarsteve
So basically this guy gets a free ride to sit on his ass, take meds and watch tv for the rest of his life while the tax payers pay for it...
no fear of the bubba late night encounters, no big punishment at all...
all he has to do is drool a little, speak in tongues, and he gets a remote control, 3 healthy square meals and no more bills or rent...
i'm not a fan of capitol punishment, but the dude eat a motherfucker on the bus....
a ton of fucking witnessses
dude did it... and needs to pay for his crime
if his god spoke that clearly to him, than he can discuss this more with his god face to face. |
He probably would be in solitary in the joint if he'd gone there.
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