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NJ woman sues Fishbone, claims injury by stage-diving singer
http://www.mycentraljersey.com/article/20100303/STATE/100303...
PHILADELPHIA — A New Jersey woman has filed a federal lawsuit against the rock band Fishbone claiming she was injured when its lead singer performed a
stage dive during a concert in Philadelphia.
Forty-two-year-old Kimberly Myers, of Voorhees, NJ, sued the band, lead singer Angelo Moore and World Cafe Live on Friday, claiming she suffered a
fractured skull and other injuries when Moore jumped from the stage into the crowd on Feb. 23.
The suit claims Myers also suffered a broken collar bone and perforated eardrum in the incident. According to the lawsuit Moore jumped into the crowd
without warning.
A spokesman for World Cafe Live says the venue had no advance warning there would be crowd-surfing.
Neither the band nor their managers were available for comment Tuesday.
The lawsuit is seeking damages in excess of $75,000.
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If you're a fan of Fishbone shouldn't you sort of be expecting that?
Could imagine trying to sue a venue or the guys that were moshing with you because you got hit hard in the pit?
Some bands or types of music you know ahead of time what you're in for, you have no excuse if you get hurt in that situation. I'd be worried
about the precedent a victory for this woman would set. Honestly.
You'll get the parents of 16 year old kids suing the pants off all sorts of venues because hardcore, punk and metal shows. There goes the scene folks!
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i'm not the biggest Fishbone fan but i know they have a song called Swim which is basically about stage diving and crowd surfing.
what's the chances they were playing that song at the time?
i saw them a loooong time ago with Bad Brains and Dog Eat Dog and literally the first thing the singer did was bolt out onstage and jump into the
crowd.
fuck, even the keyboard player was jumping into the crowd.
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hogwash.
everyone wants to sue somebody these days
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that's it I am suing the federal court system because I have no one to sue...
or the internet for wasting too much of my precious time
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If a parking lot for a business that you spend money at can be not liable for lost or damage property, can't a venue be not liable for personal
injury?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DaveMoral
If you're a fan of Fishbone shouldn't you sort of be expecting that?
Could imagine trying to sue a venue or the guys that were moshing with you because you got hit hard in the pit?
Some bands or types of music you know ahead of time what you're in for, you have no excuse if you get hurt in that situation. I'd be worried
about the precedent a victory for this woman would set. Honestly.
You'll get the parents of 16 year old kids suing the pants off all sorts of venues because hardcore, punk and metal shows. There goes the scene folks!
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There was an incident at a Ducky Boys' show in 1998 where this happened. A stagediver broke a girl's neck and her parents sued the club and attempted
to sue the stage diver (and threatened to sue us). It was a 3-ring circus of the highest order.... more than I could ever explain. I got depositioned
for it for like 3 hours and it was an ordeal. The girl knew the stage diver and didn't want her parents to sue him because it would make her look bad
in "the scene" etc but she couldn't tell them that so there were lies upon lies upon lies and there I was being interrogated by the lawyer that sued
Drew Bledsoe for stage diving. That was really fucked up.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Mark Lind
| Quote: | Originally posted by DaveMoral
If you're a fan of Fishbone shouldn't you sort of be expecting that?
Could imagine trying to sue a venue or the guys that were moshing with you because you got hit hard in the pit?
Some bands or types of music you know ahead of time what you're in for, you have no excuse if you get hurt in that situation. I'd be worried
about the precedent a victory for this woman would set. Honestly.
You'll get the parents of 16 year old kids suing the pants off all sorts of venues because hardcore, punk and metal shows. There goes the scene folks!
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There was an incident at a Ducky Boys' show in 1998 where this happened. A stagediver broke a girl's neck and her parents sued the club and attempted
to sue the stage diver (and threatened to sue us). It was a 3-ring circus of the highest order.... more than I could ever explain. I got depositioned
for it for like 3 hours and it was an ordeal. The girl knew the stage diver and didn't want her parents to sue him because it would make her look bad
in "the scene" etc but she couldn't tell them that so there were lies upon lies upon lies and there I was being interrogated by the lawyer that sued
Drew Bledsoe for stage diving. That was really fucked up. |
I remember that.... hope it all worked out okay for you at least!
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I guess the only person that matters in a situation like that is the victim. She could have been seriously ruined physically and she was lucky not to
be. I played such a secondary role by comparison that it's really not worth holding any resentment over. But there are many secondary victims in a
situation like this: the club is someone's business. And it feeds many employees and family members. Lawsuits really scare the crap out of me. We have
this culture in the US where you strike gold when you get hurt because you think you can just get free money. But it all comes from somewhere. There
really ought to be rules in place that prevent people from being able to sue beyond a set amount. Like, a club's insurance policy should need to cover
costs + some sort of restitution. And that's it.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Mark Lind
I guess the only person that matters in a situation like that is the victim. She could have been seriously ruined physically and she was lucky not to
be. I played such a secondary role by comparison that it's really not worth holding any resentment over. But there are many secondary victims in a
situation like this: the club is someone's business. And it feeds many employees and family members. Lawsuits really scare the crap out of me. We have
this culture in the US where you strike gold when you get hurt because you think you can just get free money. But it all comes from somewhere. There
really ought to be rules in place that prevent people from being able to sue beyond a set amount. Like, a club's insurance policy should need to cover
costs + some sort of restitution. And that's it. |
^^^^^^ Republicans are all for that when it comes to Doctor liability.
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Well it depends on the situation. If I was going in to have my left leg amputated and I woke up with the right leg amputated in error then you can bet
I'd want the doctor sued. But there is a lawsuit culture in this country that needs to end. If the Republicans are backing that then I have to agree
with them. But I suspect we're reaching the same conclusion from two very different perspectives. They seem to represent the haves while Democrats
represent the have nots.
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^Yep. Republicans tend to protect those with the money, but we're talking about small venues that are not huge money makers 9 times outta 10.
Mark, here's my question for you, do you think it's at all correct or even honest for the parents of that girl to have sued over the stage diving
incident? I mean, the girl surely knew full well what she was getting into when she went to the show. I'd think venues have insurance for a reason, so
that should've been covered unless they have some kind of notice at the door that says something to the effect of attendees being responsible for
their own safety in the mosh pit or at the foot of the stage, but other than that... if you're going into a thing knowing there's a possible but
rather slim danger of serious injury you're kind of responsible for that. Not anyone else.
To me that's like suing a skate park because a kid broke his leg falling off a ramp. Shit like that happens in skating and it's not something the park
could prevent short of not allowing anybody in to skate in the first place.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DaveMoral
^Yep. Republicans tend to protect those with the money, but we're talking about small venues that are not huge money makers 9 times outta 10.
Mark, here's my question for you, do you think it's at all correct or even honest for the parents of that girl to have sued over the stage diving
incident? I mean, the girl surely knew full well what she was getting into when she went to the show. I'd think venues have insurance for a reason, so
that should've been covered unless they have some kind of notice at the door that says something to the effect of attendees being responsible for
their own safety in the mosh pit or at the foot of the stage, but other than that... if you're going into a thing knowing there's a possible but
rather slim danger of serious injury you're kind of responsible for that. Not anyone else.
To me that's like suing a skate park because a kid broke his leg falling off a ramp. Shit like that happens in skating and it's not something the park
could prevent short of not allowing anybody in to skate in the first place. |
Stop introducing logic and accountability in this discussion. It's a very antiquated notion, and will never make you any free money.
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Yeah, I think it was expected that the parents would sue. That's their little girl that got hurt and it's a protective action to take. You know how
kids are.... she may have not told them where she was going or what the shows were really like. No matter how much parents like to think otherwise,
they really have no idea what their kids are up to. It's debatable as to whether they took it too far. But I'm not a parent so I can't really
understand what that particular emotion is like. Thinking about it practically I would have settled for the insurance payout plus some reasonable
amount for pain and suffering. I don't know how it actually ended. But I think that concept of insurance plus reasonable pain and suffering can be
applied to any club incident that doesn't involve gross misconduct on the part of the owner or staff.
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^My thoughts pretty much right there.
It's one thing if it's an injury in a fight that breaks out and the club didn't have proper security in place to deal with situations like that. It's
another if that's just the sort of show one is going to and it happens.
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my friend's wife got her arm broken at the Khyber when one of them cro mags spin offs was playing .
some guy just started spin kicking out of nowhere and she got a steel capped boot to the wrist.
i don't remember the outcome of that but it pretty much sucked.....but what can you do.
she knew what went on, just got caught off guard.
and spin kicks are for ass holes anyway.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by juandiablo
and spin kicks are for ass holes anyway. |
This should be put at the top of the board. Like "Thorp Records: spin kicks are for ass holes anyway"
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I mean seriously.....you ever seen the khyber?
it's like the size of my Mom's basement in front of the stage.
theres barely enough room to hold a pint when they pack people in.
the first time i saw some guy doing that crap when i was like 20 i sucker punched him.
maybe that makes me an ass hole, but i don't need bruce lees foot in my face.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Mark Lind
| Quote: | Originally posted by juandiablo
and spin kicks are for ass holes anyway. |
This should be put at the top of the board. Like "Thorp Records: spin kicks are for ass holes anyway" |
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Cha-ching!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by juandiablo
i sucker punched him.
maybe that makes me an ass hole, but i don't need bruce lees foot in my face. |
All that ninja spin kicking wind milling i'm Daniel-son shit gets on my tits too. I bet 90% of those mong's aint even seen a martial arts gym never
mind joined one..
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Hands of time wrap tight around my neck, and hit me so hard,
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staring at a ceiling,
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penning words in a notebook,
wondering why haven't slept.
sanity is tapping in a cell
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begging for redemption
after hearing what was said.
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plus he made ms spill half a beer so....
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He might as well have just raped your Gran.......That's just not cricket!!!!
Living a life kept shut by a dream,
I'm reaching out to grasp my reality.
Hands of time wrap tight around my neck, and hit me so hard,
leaving me eyes black.
staring at a ceiling,
wondering why i never left,
penning words in a notebook,
wondering why haven't slept.
sanity is tapping in a cell
inside my fucking head.
begging for redemption
after hearing what was said.
the nights, they will not sleep
cause the days, have played for keeps.
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