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[*] posted on 6-24-2005 at 12:32 AM
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[*] posted on 6-24-2005 at 12:33 AM


Rob Kleckner reports:
Exhibit A: Classic cover art for Minor Threat's self-titled 1984 compilation.
Exhibit B: Nike Skateboarding's poster image for its "Major Threat" 2005 East Coast Tour.

You don't need a degree in graphic design to notice the similarities here. They're the fucking same. Oh, wait-- one is blue, not red. And Major, not Minor. And there are some Nike logos tossed in there. This brings to mind an interview with Vanilla Ice, defending the differences between "Ice Ice Baby" and "Under Pressure" ("dun dun dun duh-duh-duh dun" vs. "DUN dun dun dun duh-duh-duh dun").

Come on, Nike, your Swoosh is one of the most iconic brand images in the world, perhaps a tiny notch below the Golden Arches and maybe Coca-Cola; you don't need to be appropriating another culture for yourselves.

But Nike is smart enough to know better, right? They must have asked permission. We spoke to a representative from Dischord Records, Minor Threat's label, if Nike had asked to borrow these images. They said the following: "No, they stole it and we're not happy about it. Nike is a giant corporation which is attempting to manipulate the alternative skate culture to create an even wider demand for their already ubiquitous brand. Nike represents just about the antithesis of what Dischord stands for and it makes me sick to my stomach to think they are using this explicit imagery to fool kids into thinking that the general ethos of this label, and Minor Threat in particular, can somehow be linked to Nike's mission. It's disgusting."

Dischord is not sure of what action they are going to take, but you can tell they are not happy with Nike's choice. We will keep you updated as we learn more about the situation.




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[*] posted on 6-24-2005 at 01:18 AM


FUCK nike
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[*] posted on 6-24-2005 at 04:21 AM


dont geet mad.
Nike needs to make money off of all the idiots of the world jus liek every other huge corperation.
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[*] posted on 6-24-2005 at 08:45 AM


in case you haven't seen it...





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[*] posted on 6-24-2005 at 09:55 AM


Yeah thats retarded I saw that about 5 minutes ago.



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[*] posted on 6-24-2005 at 10:05 AM


There is no way that Nike can deny they ripped off Minor Threat. It's blatant. Fuckin pricks.



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[*] posted on 6-24-2005 at 11:09 AM


I don't buy it for a second that NIKE ripped them off without any compensation to Ian. Honestly think about it. NIKE the biggest shoe company and they do not know how to advertise legally? I bet Ian and NIKE came to an agreement on money and Ian has the right to ACT like he is being ripped off by "da man". Nike knows what they are doing and so does Ian. Since it came out everyone is talking about it and it is getting MINORTHREAT -DISCHORD out in the spotlight as well and NIKE and this tour.



I'm going out on a limb and will say we may see a MINOR THREAT reunion. Maybe I'm going out on a limb but what band out of all harcore/punk hasn't gotten together and would bring EVERYONE in the scene into attendance? I can name a couple and 2 of them would be MINOR THREAT and THE MISFITS. All original members. Stranger things have happened. Honestly I don't think they will do that but it's always a possibility.
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[*] posted on 6-24-2005 at 01:00 PM


I would totally attend a Minor Threat show.
The dead kennedys would be interesting too.
I doubt you'll ever see Glenn onstage with Doyle anytime soon though.
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[*] posted on 6-24-2005 at 01:53 PM


i hope mackyes sues



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[*] posted on 6-24-2005 at 01:57 PM


could go either way - maybe it was a deal, maybe not. corporations know they can do whatever they want and just pay someone off at the end of the day. apple used an eminem song in one of their ipod ads after he turned them down. a year later, he sued, they settled, and apple sold a billion ipods.




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[*] posted on 6-24-2005 at 02:00 PM


its a web only design i hear
no print ads
there is some fine line about this that they are able to do it without fear of being sued

either way, i dont think ian or dischord worked out anything with nike

if they had, more power to them
i for one would not have cared
let 'em make some $

but im sure nothing was ever discussed with dischord




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[*] posted on 6-24-2005 at 02:14 PM


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I'm going out on a limb and will say we may see a MINOR THREAT reunion. Maybe I'm going out on a limb but what band out of all harcore/punk hasn't gotten together and would bring EVERYONE in the scene into attendance? I can name a couple and 2 of them would be MINOR THREAT and THE MISFITS. All original members. Stranger things have happened. Honestly I don't think they will do that but it's always a possibility.


I agree Clevo. A Minor Threat and orginal Misfits line up would unite and make a TON of cash for them. Hell, Doyle is touring with Danzig on the Blackest of the Black tour. Everyone has a price. Mybe Doyle just hates his brother now. Who knows..........
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[*] posted on 6-24-2005 at 02:26 PM


isn't there a 20% law
you can alter an original desing 20 percent and use if freely, and the owner of the origianl can do nothing about it....
since they are clearly different photographs, nike will get away with it....
fuck whorperate america...
steal from the hard working people to sell more shoes made in a 3rd world country.

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[*] posted on 6-24-2005 at 03:50 PM


i used to work for skate company (capital / silverstar / nicotine / big east / smoke rings / intensity skates) in the mid-90s, and we used to steal corporate logos and design all the time. there were framed cease and desist letters hanging in our office. that's always the first step. if you don't cease and desist, THEN there's trouble.




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[*] posted on 6-24-2005 at 03:50 PM


Here's a good article on 3rd World Manufacturing. It's long but worth it.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8243331/
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[*] posted on 6-24-2005 at 07:42 PM


Breaking from my normal cranky attitude about reunion shows, I would crawl across broken glass to see Minor Threat. Had the chance to see Minor Threat, SSD, DYS, and god knows who else on the day of my graduation party from high school. I was threatened with great harm if I left the party. One of my big regrets.



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Breaking from my normal cranky attitude about reunion shows, I would crawl across broken glass to see Minor Threat. Had the chance to see Minor Threat, SSD, DYS, and god knows who else on the day of my graduation party from high school. I was threatened with great harm if I left the party. One of my big regrets.




agreed
i too would go to this
minor threat was unreal




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[*] posted on 6-26-2005 at 03:56 PM


ian mackye didnt agree to it, goto the dischord website, he will prboally do nothing though cause he is against lawers and stuff, but hopefully he will



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[*] posted on 6-28-2005 at 04:45 PM


Nike will probably say it's a parody and be able to get away with.



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[*] posted on 6-28-2005 at 05:05 PM


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June 27, 2005

To Minor Threat, Dischord Records and fans of both

Re: Major Threat East Coast Tour Poster

Nike Skateboarding sincerely apologizes for the creation of a tour poster inspired by Minor Threat's album cover. Despite rumors being circulated, Wieden & Kennedy and Odopod had nothing to do with the creation of this tour poster and should not be held accountable. To set the record straight, Nike Skateboarding's "Major Threat" Tour poster was designed, executed and promoted by skateboarders, for skateboarders. All of the Nike employees responsible for the creation of the tour flyer are fans of both Minor Threat and Dischord records and have nothing but respect for both.

Minor Threat's music and iconographic album cover have been an inspiration to countless skateboarders since the album came out in 1984. And for the members of the Nike Skateboarding staff, this is no different. Because of the album's strong imagery and because our East Coast tour ends in Washington DC, we felt that it was a perfect fit. This was a poor judgment call and should not have been executed without consulting Minor Threat and Dischord Records.

We apologize for any problems this may have caused, and want to make very clear that we have no relationship with the members of Minor Threat, Dischord Records and they have not endorsed our products.

Every effort has been made to remove and dispose of all flyers (both print and digital). Again, Nike Skateboarding sincerely apologizes to Minor Threat and Dischord Records.

Sincerely,
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[*] posted on 6-28-2005 at 05:35 PM


I was just about to post this.



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[*] posted on 6-28-2005 at 09:19 PM


84???
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[*] posted on 6-28-2005 at 11:18 PM


yar, i tihnk discography came out in 84



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that they\'ve been dying
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