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DaveMoral
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There are Iraq war vets out there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT2r78OZwns&feature=player_em...
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There's a lot of vets out there, BD posted photos before.
A lot of people ask me what kind of music I like. I love "soul music". My "soul music" isn’t a style, genre or niche. It’s music that is genuine. It’s
a painful lyric, a dirty bassline, it’s a harrowing vocal, it’s feedback, it’s an anthem, it’s a love song, it’s anarchy. I’ve got my personal
favourites but in the end it doesn’t matter who or where it comes from... so long as it’s good and it's real.
- Paul Morris, music director at 97.7 HTZ-FM
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BDx13
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http://rebuildthedream.com/move-your-money/
If I fail math, there goes my chance at a good job and a happy life full of hard work.
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A very appropriate video both visually and lyrically for this subject :
http://www.actionrecon.com/2011/11/block-mccloud-vinnie-paz-...
BKT.
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Six66Mike
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Melbourne was booted last week, Sydney recently booted too. Brisbane group released a video and announcement yesterday at how happy they were with
the treatment local cops have given them and the total lack of trouble.
Pre-dawn this morning they were raided and evicted by cops on order of Brisbane council. The reason was under a parks and recreation clause about
maintaining the park, not to cause harm etc.
Said they were occupying the grass too long and they need to let the ground restore themselves. lol
So they're relocating to the park beside the casino I think, last update I read anyway.
Meanwhile NY authorities are confiscating heaters there, probably in a justifiable attempt to prevent a fire but has an impact on keeping warm as
storm's and winter roll in.
A lot of people ask me what kind of music I like. I love "soul music". My "soul music" isn’t a style, genre or niche. It’s music that is genuine. It’s
a painful lyric, a dirty bassline, it’s a harrowing vocal, it’s feedback, it’s an anthem, it’s a love song, it’s anarchy. I’ve got my personal
favourites but in the end it doesn’t matter who or where it comes from... so long as it’s good and it's real.
- Paul Morris, music director at 97.7 HTZ-FM
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Jason the Magnificent
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Not trying to rabble rouse.
Just curious, for those that follow/followed this closely...it's been over a month since this thread has moved. Does anyone feel anything has/was/is
still being accomplished?
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DaveMoral
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I think that OWS has changed much of the political conversation. Before them all the talk was about deficit reduction and spending cuts, after them
there's more serious talk about income inequality and just what role money plays in our political system. And while most of the camps have been shut
down, demonstrators are regularly coming out in most of the cities they had initially had encampments in. So there's hope that this thing hasn't lost
steam and once the winter has passed they'll still be going strong in spring. Maybe with more people joining in.
My fervent hope is that this ends up growing to the extent that it shapes the next election in a big way.
As I see it OWS is nothing short of revolutionary. They are, in essence, talking about a complete overhaul of what our political system has become
where lobbyists for multinational conglomerates can keep throwing money at Congressmen and women to get the legislation that they favor and favors
them passed while the rest of us get the short end of the stick. I mean, look at the recent Congressional declaration that pizza is a vegetable. They
were bombarded by lobbyists from the frozen food providers that clog our schools with the kinds of processed foods that are making American kids fat
and sick. And that's not to mention all the subsidies that oil producers get and major tax cuts for the wealthy, loopholes that corporations like GE
exploit so they don't end up paying any income tax, etc. To change that is in essence a revolution. And that's going to take time. I don't see that
happening like Egypt or Tunisia.
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Jason the Magnificent
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Fair enough...I just don't see money so deep that can get pizza called a vegetable giving two shits about any of us this. That kind of money is power
and that kind of power doesn't dissipate because people have signs.
It just seems to me like this has almost become completely out of sight out of mind and I don't believe the American people have enough of an
attention span to remember they were doing this by the spring...hopefully I'm wrong.
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I haven't really paid much attention to any of this becasue I am working most of the time
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Quote: Originally posted by Jason the Magnificent  | Fair enough...I just don't see money so deep that can get pizza called a vegetable giving two shits about any of us this. That kind of money is power
and that kind of power doesn't dissipate because people have signs.
It just seems to me like this has almost become completely out of sight out of mind and I don't believe the American people have enough of an
attention span to remember they were doing this by the spring...hopefully I'm wrong. |
I think it's got to have longevity to garner that kind of attention. It took a long time for white America to pay much attention at all to the Civil
Rights movement... and very dramatic events as well.
OWS needs better PR.
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I think more people are now more aware of some of the shit going on in front of them. There's more people signed up to more facebook groups etc
getting information and sharing news.
Shit like this, Governor of Michigan taking over small cities and threatening to overtake Detroit, overturning the electoral process - http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/state-michigan-step-run-d...
We've already seen it across Europe, elected leaders being replaced by non-elected, usually ex-bankers who had no prior roll in government and no
right to be in power. Europe is now literally run by a bunch of Goldman Sachs workers, Italy, Greece, Portugal... all of the installed leaders have
worked for Goldman Sachs in the past. These people aren't elected, they have no representation of the people. Now they're in charge.
2011 is the year the democratic process truly died and the 2012 US election will be yet another in a line of farcical elections as well.
I'm honestly sick of the sit ins though, passive action. When the mayors and feds send in riot cops, pepper spray kids peacefully standing their
ground and nobody strikes back then fuck it. I know they want to continue peaceful resistance but something's gotta give. Thousands died across the
Middle East to get change, Syria is still fighting for change. Until some people are willing to die and fight back with force fuck all is gonna
change.
I've gone from loving the movement to being completely militant. Fuck them all, I wanna see a financial and political holocaust, I want these fucks
to occupy a gas chamber, I want their system of capitalism abolished in a sea of flames, literally. A small group of bankers and greedy fucks have
literally ruined the US & Europe, coming up with obscene gambling schemes and calling it legitimate banking, defrauding millions of people. And
they're still there, they're still getting tax dollars to help them when the governments are going to them for loans... it makes no sense. 100% no
bullshit I'm all for a holocaust to cleanse the planet of these fucks.
A lot of people ask me what kind of music I like. I love "soul music". My "soul music" isn’t a style, genre or niche. It’s music that is genuine. It’s
a painful lyric, a dirty bassline, it’s a harrowing vocal, it’s feedback, it’s an anthem, it’s a love song, it’s anarchy. I’ve got my personal
favourites but in the end it doesn’t matter who or where it comes from... so long as it’s good and it's real.
- Paul Morris, music director at 97.7 HTZ-FM
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Six66Mike
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Why isn't Kucinich running?
http://youtu.be/Ftj_P1YKMlc
A lot of people ask me what kind of music I like. I love "soul music". My "soul music" isn’t a style, genre or niche. It’s music that is genuine. It’s
a painful lyric, a dirty bassline, it’s a harrowing vocal, it’s feedback, it’s an anthem, it’s a love song, it’s anarchy. I’ve got my personal
favourites but in the end it doesn’t matter who or where it comes from... so long as it’s good and it's real.
- Paul Morris, music director at 97.7 HTZ-FM
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Because every time he does, the press treats him like the mayor of Hobbiton in the big city.
One thing I can say that was acheived during the time of OWS is that something like $10B was moved out of big banks and into credit unions and local
community banks. I don't know that that can all be attributed directly to the protests, but it does make the point that enough people are fed up with
the crap from the big banks that they're voting with their feet and their wallets. That's definitely given some of those in power a little pause.
And I believe there is a bill in Congress right now that basically tells SCOTUS to go fuck themselves in regards to their views on corporations having
the same rights as people. Too tired and lazy right now to find links to this, but I'm sure if you searched through Huffinton Post you could find it.
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