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DEATH METAL MURDERS
DEICIDE, MAYHEM Featured In 'Death Metal Murders' BBC Documentary - Nov. 15, 2005
DEICIDE frontman Glen Benton will feature in an hour-long BBC documentary called "Death Metal Murders" (part of the acclaimed "This World" series)
which explores link between heavy metal music (specifically death and black metal) and Satanism and murder.The show will air at 9:00 p.m. (GMT) on
Thursday, November 24 on BBC2. A program description follows:
"Of the young heavy metal fans in this picture, three are now dead; four are on trial charged with murder; one is serving 19 years; two more of their
friends are serving long prison sentences. They were called the Beasts of Satan and their story has gripped Italy for more than a year. With unique
access to them and their families, as well as graphic police footage, 'This World' asks ? how much did their addiction to satanic death metal music
influence their descent into torture, sacrifices and murder? The film also travels around the world, from Milan to Oslo to California, investigating
the bizarre underground scene that is extreme metal music. We interview the extraordinary musicians ? from Glen Benton of DEICIDE (who has an upside
down cross branded into his forehead) and Necrobutcher of Norwegian black metal band MAYHEM, to a Capuchin monk who struts the stage of a metal
festival in Northern Italy roaring out heavy metal songs, to self-confessed Swedish Satanists DISSECTION.
"'Bleeding on your knees/ My satisfaction is what I need/ The urge to take my fist/ And violate every orifice/ You're nothing/ Beaten into submission/
Raping again and again.' These are the lyrics of 'Sex. Murder. Art.' ? a 1995 track by American band SLAYER, who have sold millions of albums around
the world. They and other death metal bands sing about rape, torture, necrophilia, murder and Satanism. Over the years, this type of music has been
blamed for driving teenage boys to murder and suicide. The parents of Elyse Marie Pahler took SLAYER to a California court in a failed attempt to ban
the sale of this kind of music to children, after their daughter was murdered by SLAYER fans obsessed with Satanism.
"'No-one can contradict me when I say that heavy metal and satanism are closely linked. They go hand in hand, they're inseparable. I say this without
the shadow of a doubt," says Michele Tollis, father of Fabio, who was murdered in a Satanic ritual by the Beasts of Satan sect in Italy. Michele has
become something of an expert in the genre, having attended more than 80 heavy metal concerts during a six year search for his son which culminated in
the discovery of the body last year.
Not surprisingly, death metal musicians deny that they have any responsibility for the actions of people who profess to be their fans. "I say don't
blame people like me, and [Marilyn] Manson, because we never said, 'Hey, we're going to be role models for all your kids.' That ain't what this is
about. It's about entertainment,' says Glen Benton of Florida death metal pioneers DEICIDE ? who were the favourite band of the Beasts of Satan.
"And indeed there is little evidence to suggest that normal, well-adjusted kids can be driven to murder by music. And yet the concerns persist.
According to Don Roberts of Stanford University, it is not the majority of kids we should be worrying about. It?s the kids who already have problems
with violence or depression who perhaps should be kept away from death metal. 'What the music may well be doing is simply reinforcing beliefs that
they might have started with in the first place, and building on them and justifying their world view, legitimizing the way they feel. The lyrics are
violent, they lyrics are misogynist, the lyrics are depressed and depressing, the lyrics are satanic, they talk about suicide, they talk about
self-mutilisation. The very kinds of things we're worried that these problem kids will get engaged in.'
"This appears to be born out by the experience in Norway. In the 1990s, more than 40 churches were burnt down by followers of Norwegian black metal (a
fusion of Satanism, Norse Paganism and noise). State Prosecutor Bjorn Soknes interviewed many of the arsonists and found they had a lot in common.
'They were young, 16 to 22, they were lonely people. Many of them told us they were listening over hours to black metal music before they burnt
churches.' Yet the hysteria that the church burnings produced ? it is still something of a national obsession in Norway ? has only served to spread
the gospel of black metal around the world. Bands like Britain's CRADLE OF FILTH sell hundreds of thousand of albums.
"Necrobutcher is bass player of the most famous black metal band of all ? MAYHEM. He acknowledges that the huge controversy surrounding the band has
only fuelled the cult of black metal: 'The people we scared are scared and the people who understood the joke are still there, and just smiling about
the whole thing. It's not totally a joke, of course. It's something that the government couldn't control, you know? They tried to keep us down, and by
doing that, what happened? Cult fucking legends."
"So what should you do when your kids come home wearing upside down crosses and pentagrams? The mother of a 13-year-old extreme metal fan in Norway
thinks all you can do is engage with them. 'You have to go along with them I think. I think it is very important not to just deny it or say that
you're not supposed to do that and this, but to find out what it is, what he is thinking and why is he fascinated. What is it with this music?'
"And Mario Maccione, convicted in Italy of murdering his friends in a Satanic ritual? 'You can count on the fingers of one hand the number of people
who have done what we have done. Of the millions of people who listen to metal music, no-one, I repeat no-one has ever been involved in anything like
this. In fact many more people have done things like this who do not listen to metal at all."
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JawnDiablo
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i'll pray for these ass holes tonight...
nah just kidding
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CR83
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Here's someone seemingly trying to link Death Metal, Black Metal or Blood Dripping Metal to some crazy assed kid's actions. I think it comes down to
parenting in many cases. Not all but many. Glen said it right, "I say don't blame people like me, and [Marilyn] Manson, because we never said, 'Hey,
we're going to be role models for all your kids.' That ain't what this is about. It's about entertainment,"
WERD TO GLEN BENTON
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GabeTexasGAMC
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Bentons a douche...
The dude from Dissection is hard as fuck. He lured some fruit by promising sex at the lilihammer winter games, to some secluded woods, and then
stabbed him to death. Thats some fucked up shit.
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"So what should you do when your kids come home wearing upside down crosses and pentagrams? The mother of a 13-year-old extreme metal fan in Norway
thinks all you can do is engage with them. 'You have to go along with them I think. I think it is very important not to just deny it or say that
you're not supposed to do that and this, but to find out what it is, what he is thinking and why is he fascinated. What is it with this music?'
It does come down to parenting.
(on a side note, 20 years ago I never thought I'd be discussing parenting on a hardcore messageboard with people from all over the world....now that's
some fucked up shit)
Well, its this place where nobody works, and the pigs don\'t give you any shit. Everyone smokes weed and gets drunk all day. Its a place where
cunts like me and you can truly take it easy and relax. Know what I mean?
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