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[*] posted on 6-29-2006 at 03:25 PM
more on that vaccine debate...


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060629/ap_on_he_me/cervical_can...

Vaccine advice seen as sensitive issue
By MIKE STOBBE, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 10 minutes ago

ATLANTA - Taking up a sensitive issue among religious conservatives, an influential government advisory panel Thursday recommended that 11- and 12-year-old girls be routinely vaccinated against the sexually transmitted virus that causes cervical cancer.

The Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices also said the shots can be started for girls as young as 9, at the discretion of their doctors.

The committee's recommendations usually are accepted by federal health officials, and influence insurance coverage for vaccinations.

Gardasil, made by Merck & Co., is the first vaccine specifically designed to prevent cancer. Approved earlier this month by the Food and Drug Administration for females ages 9 to 26, it protects against strains of the human papilloma virus, or HPV, which causes cervical, vulvar and vaginal cancers and genital warts.

Health officials estimate that more than 50 percent of sexually active women and men will be infected with one or more types of HPV in their lifetimes. Vaccine proponents say it could dramatically reduce the nearly 4,000 cervical cancer deaths that occur each year in the United States.

The vaccine is considered most effective when given to girls before they become sexually active. About 7 percent of children have had sexual intercourse before age 13, and about a quarter of boys and girls have had sex by age 15, according to government surveys.

The committee's vote was unanimous, with two of the 15 members abstaining because of they have worked on Merck-funded studies. The committee also voted to add the HPV vaccine to the coverage list for the federal Vaccines for Children program, which pays for immunizations for uninsured and underinsured children.

Some health officials had girded themselves for arguments from religious conservatives and others that vaccinating youngsters against the sexually transmitted virus might make them more likely to have sex. But the controversy never materialized in the panel's public meetings.

Earlier this year, the Family Research Council, a conservative group, did not speak out against giving the HPV shot to young girls. The organization mainly opposes making it one of the vaccines required before youngsters can enroll in school, said the group's policy analyst, Moira Gaul.

The government advisory panel did not recommend that the vaccine be required by schools, though some organizations ? including Planned Parenthood ? have advocated such a step.

Surveys suggest the shots will have little effect on youngsters' sexual behavior, said Nicole Liddon, a behavioral scientist with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. In a recent survey of virgins 15 to 19, only 10 percent of boys and 7 percent of girls cited fear of disease as a reason not to have sex, Liddon said.

The vaccine comes as a $360 series of three shots, and in tests has been highly effective against HPV. The vaccine is formulated to address the subtypes of HPV responsible for 70 percent of cervical cancer cases and 90 percent of genital warts.

In a public comment session at Thursday's meeting, all nine speakers supported recommending the vaccine to females 9 to 26, the broadest possible group under FDA license. The speakers included a state senator from Maryland and the chief medical officer of AmeriChoice, a UnitedHealth Group company that manages state Medicaid programs.

The panel focused on 11- to 12-year-olds in part because children that age already routinely get two other shots.

Several speakers also called for the immunization of boys, as soon as studies are completed on the vaccine's safety and effectiveness for males. HPV has been linked to penile, anal, and head and neck cancers and a tumor-like condition of the respiratory tract.

Merck officials said clinical effectiveness studies in males should be completed by 2008.

Merck officials also said they can provide the more than 19 million doses that health officials expect would be used in the next year.





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[*] posted on 6-30-2006 at 10:43 PM


I just love the mistruths and misguiding done to promote this bullshit.

Just looking at the URL and constantly calling Gardasil a CANCER vaccine is a crock. They said it right when they said "it protects against strains of the human papilloma virus, or HPV, which causes cervical, vulvar and vaginal cancers and genital warts."

They did forget to say it MAY leade to... rather than causes. Not all people who get HPV will get cancer or warts, so HPV doesn't solely CAUSE cervical cancer.

I hate the vaccine industry & the government & media's blind faith in promoting them. But that's been known for a while here with my posts about them.

Merck admits not knowing what the long term effectiveness is of Gardasil, they only know that just over 2000 women who received the shots didn't get cancer in te 4 year study period. Wow, really convincing shit...not. What happens when half the group has cancer in 10 years down the road or longer when Merck is no longer doing followups with these people?

Nobody will ever know the long term effectiveness because nobody will keep in contact with the study group or they will blame the cancer on smoking, pollution etc. They will say other factors caused the cancer & continue to claim Gardasil is 100% effective.

There is way too much spin & not enough truths out there on ANY vaccine on the market. This is why my kid is not being vaccinated for anything. Ever.




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[*] posted on 7-1-2006 at 12:24 AM


if it helps its important to get.



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[*] posted on 7-1-2006 at 02:35 AM


Hahaha I found this to be fucking hilarious:

For 2 weeks straight The Advertiser in Adelaide blasted this "cancer" vaccine on the front page.

2 days later on page 30 or so, a small article called "Condoms prevent Cervical cancer".

Use a dome, they've been around decades with no adverse reactions unless someone is allergic to latex. Its been proven effective in stopping the spread of HPV & countless other STD's whereas Gardasil protects against 4 strains of HPV and thats about it. You can still get pregneant or catch other STD's.

Not to mention Gardasil has not been effectively tested by any means.




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[*] posted on 7-1-2006 at 02:41 AM


For every shitty medical vaccine or solution out there, you can find 10 more alternatives that are just as or more effective.

- Eggs cut bad cholesterol. Changing your diet cuts bad cholesterol. Don't take Lipitor, change your eating.

- Multi-vitamins prevent or lessen the effects of the common cold. Cough medicine etc suppresses the cold, doesn't do anything to fight it off. I pop a Centrum KIDS, yes KIDS one and every time my throat started to get sore or had a sniffle it was gone by days end. I caught a cold too eventually, was gone in 2-3 days, cough medicine would not have done that, because I used to try.

The medical industry is fucked & has never proven itself to be correct. "Alternatives" are actually far more popular worldwide and have been proven effective for thousands of years.

http://www.evehillary.org/ This chick has a lot of info on the coming crisis in medicine with Codex being passed in countries around the world limiting access to vitamins and supplements. Prince Charles has been a practitioner of "alternative" medicine for decades.

If the Prince is doing it there must be some validity to how useful it actually is. Fuck the fear mongering & scare tactics the pharmaceuticals use, I don't buy it. Not unless than can show valid evidence their products have been properly tested & proven to work with minimal side effects & long term safety.




A lot of people ask me what kind of music I like. I love "soul music". My "soul music" isn’t a style, genre or niche. It’s music that is genuine. It’s a painful lyric, a dirty bassline, it’s a harrowing vocal, it’s feedback, it’s an anthem, it’s a love song, it’s anarchy. I’ve got my personal favourites but in the end it doesn’t matter who or where it comes from... so long as it’s good and it's real.
- Paul Morris, music director at 97.7 HTZ-FM
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[*] posted on 7-1-2006 at 02:43 AM


That's really funny about the condom article! Its one ot those things thats funny becayse its true. To bad it won't get any further than page 30 of that paper!



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