Voodoobillyman
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August 29th 2006
NEW MOTORHEAD!!!!!!!!! Who here is picking it up besides myself and Discipline?
As a side note, there will be a cameo appearance from a woman by the name of Wafa Sultan.........she's an arab american psychologist in LA that has
some very interesting things to say about muslim culture, especially fundamentalists and extremists, google her and read if yer interested. Lemmy and
the boys are apparently supportive of her views and have her doing something on the new album. Did you know Lemmy is a history and war buff, a
fountain of knowledge in these fileds from what I understand. You learn something new every day.............Now go buy the new Motorhead, because
Motorhead rules.
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This going to be the best birthday ever for me.
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I know it's off topic...............but fuck it, it's my topic, heres an excerpt from the interview on Al Jazeera with the aformetioned woman who will
be making some kind of appearance on the new Motorhead album.
Arab-American Psychiatrist Wafa Sultan: There is No Clash of Civilizations but a Clash between the Mentality of the Middle Ages and That of the 21st
Century
Following are excerpts from an interview with Arab-American psychiatrist Wafa Sultan. The interview was aired on Al-Jazeera TV on February 21, 2006
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Wafa Sultan: The clash we are witnessing around the world is not a clash of religions, or a clash of civilizations. It is a clash between two
opposites, between two eras. It is a clash between a mentality that belongs to the Middle Ages and another mentality that belongs to the 21st century.
It is a clash between civilization and backwardness, between the civilized and the primitive, between barbarity and rationality. It is a clash between
freedom and oppression, between democracy and dictatorship. It is a clash between human rights, on the one hand, and the violation of these rights, on
other hand. It is a clash between those who treat women like beasts, and those who treat them like human beings. What we see today is not a clash of
civilizations. Civilizations do not clash, but compete.
[...]
Host: I understand from your words that what is happening today is a clash between the culture of the West, and the backwardness and ignorance of the
Muslims?
Wafa Sultan: Yes, that is what I mean.
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Host: Who came up with the concept of a clash of civilizations? Was it not Samuel Huntington? It was not Bin Laden. I would like to discuss this
issue, if you don't mind...
Wafa Sultan: The Muslims are the ones who began using this expression. The Muslims are the ones who began the clash of civilizations. The Prophet of
Islam said: "I was ordered to fight the people until they believe in Allah and His Messenger." When the Muslims divided the people into Muslims and
non-Muslims, and called to fight the others until they believe in what they themselves believe, they started this clash, and began this war. In order
to stop this war, they must reexamine their Islamic books and curricula, which are full of calls for takfir and fighting the infidels.
My colleague has said that he never offends other people's beliefs. What civilization on the face of this earth allows him to call other people by
names that they did not choose for themselves? Once, he calls them Ahl Al-Dhimma, another time he calls them the "People of the Book," and yet another
time he compares them to apes and pigs, or he calls the Christians "those who incur Allah's wrath." Who told you that they are "People of the Book"?
They are not the People of the Book, they are people of many books. All the useful scientific books that you have today are theirs, the fruit of their
free and creative thinking. What gives you the right to call them "those who incur Allah's wrath," or "those who have gone astray," and then come here
and say that your religion commands you to refrain from offending the beliefs of others?
I am not a Christian, a Muslim, or a Jew. I am a secular human being. I do not believe in the supernatural, but I respect others' right to believe in
it.
Dr. Ibrahim Al-Khouli: Are you a heretic?
Wafa Sultan: You can say whatever you like. I am a secular human being who does not believe in the supernatural...
Dr. Ibrahim Al-Khouli: If you are a heretic, there is no point in rebuking you, since you have blasphemed against Islam, the Prophet, and the Koran...
Wafa Sultan: These are personal matters that do not concern you.
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Wafa Sultan: Brother, you can believe in stones, as long as you don't throw them at me. You are free to worship whoever you want, but other people's
beliefs are not your concern, whether they believe that the Messiah is God, son of Mary, or that Satan is God, son of Mary. Let people have their
beliefs.
[...]
Wafa Sultan: The Jews have come from the tragedy (of the Holocaust), and forced the world to respect them, with their knowledge, not with their
terror, with their work, not their crying and yelling. Humanity owes most of the discoveries and science of the 19th and 20th centuries to Jewish
scientists. 15 million people, scattered throughout the world, united and won their rights through work and knowledge. We have not seen a single Jew
blow himself up in a German restaurant. We have not seen a single Jew destroy a church. We have not seen a single Jew protest by killing people. The
Muslims have turned three Buddha statues into rubble. We have not seen a single Buddhist burn down a Mosque, kill a Muslim, or burn down an embassy.
Only the Muslims defend their beliefs by burning down churches, killing people, and destroying embassies. This path will not yield any results. The
Muslims must ask themselves what they can do for humankind, before they demand that humankind respect them.
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Voodoobillyman
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Kid Ugly
This going to be the best birthday ever for me. |
My birthday is on the 20th, so this os close enough for me to consider it a late, GREAT birthday gift!!!!!
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Voodoobillyman
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I'm actually going to go into work late so I can go straight to the record store when it opens to be the first kid in my neighborhood to buy this
bitch..............I havent done anything like that in YEARS
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I love the new stuff but I will have to see with my money situation.
Each aspect of the soul has it's own part to play, but the ideal is harmonious agreement with reason and control.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Voodoobillyman
| Quote: | Originally posted by Kid Ugly
This going to be the best birthday ever for me. |
My birthday is on the 20th, so this os close enough for me to consider it a late, GREAT birthday gift!!!!! |
Nice. I'm going to be 21 on that day too, and my sister is taking me to a Yankee that day. Now I find that MOTORHEAD is on top of all that. Fuckin'
awesome.
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Voodoobillyman
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Kid Ugly
| Quote: | Originally posted by Voodoobillyman
| Quote: | Originally posted by Kid Ugly
This going to be the best birthday ever for me. |
My birthday is on the 20th, so this os close enough for me to consider it a late, GREAT birthday gift!!!!! |
Nice. I'm going to be 21 on that day too, and my sister is taking me to a Yankee that day. Now I find that MOTORHEAD is on top of all that. Fuckin'
awesome. |
Sorry to hear about the Yankees game bro.........at least you got Motorhead
Happy birthday, get fuckin smashed and rock out to Lemmy and the gang.
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Motorhead rule all.
‘Do you know what a love letter is? It’s a bullet from a fucking gun. Straight through your heart.’
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Voodoobillyman
I know it's off topic...............but fuck it, it's my topic, heres an excerpt from the interview on Al Jazeera with the aformetioned woman who will
be making some kind of appearance on the new Motorhead album.
Arab-American Psychiatrist Wafa Sultan: There is No Clash of Civilizations but a Clash between the Mentality of the Middle Ages and That of the 21st
Century
Following are excerpts from an interview with Arab-American psychiatrist Wafa Sultan. The interview was aired on Al-Jazeera TV on February 21, 2006
.
Wafa Sultan: The clash we are witnessing around the world is not a clash of religions, or a clash of civilizations. It is a clash between two
opposites, between two eras. It is a clash between a mentality that belongs to the Middle Ages and another mentality that belongs to the 21st century.
It is a clash between civilization and backwardness, between the civilized and the primitive, between barbarity and rationality. It is a clash between
freedom and oppression, between democracy and dictatorship. It is a clash between human rights, on the one hand, and the violation of these rights, on
other hand. It is a clash between those who treat women like beasts, and those who treat them like human beings. What we see today is not a clash of
civilizations. Civilizations do not clash, but compete.
[...]
Host: I understand from your words that what is happening today is a clash between the culture of the West, and the backwardness and ignorance of the
Muslims?
Wafa Sultan: Yes, that is what I mean.
[...]
Host: Who came up with the concept of a clash of civilizations? Was it not Samuel Huntington? It was not Bin Laden. I would like to discuss this
issue, if you don't mind...
Wafa Sultan: The Muslims are the ones who began using this expression. The Muslims are the ones who began the clash of civilizations. The Prophet of
Islam said: "I was ordered to fight the people until they believe in Allah and His Messenger." When the Muslims divided the people into Muslims and
non-Muslims, and called to fight the others until they believe in what they themselves believe, they started this clash, and began this war. In order
to stop this war, they must reexamine their Islamic books and curricula, which are full of calls for takfir and fighting the infidels.
My colleague has said that he never offends other people's beliefs. What civilization on the face of this earth allows him to call other people by
names that they did not choose for themselves? Once, he calls them Ahl Al-Dhimma, another time he calls them the "People of the Book," and yet another
time he compares them to apes and pigs, or he calls the Christians "those who incur Allah's wrath." Who told you that they are "People of the Book"?
They are not the People of the Book, they are people of many books. All the useful scientific books that you have today are theirs, the fruit of their
free and creative thinking. What gives you the right to call them "those who incur Allah's wrath," or "those who have gone astray," and then come here
and say that your religion commands you to refrain from offending the beliefs of others?
I am not a Christian, a Muslim, or a Jew. I am a secular human being. I do not believe in the supernatural, but I respect others' right to believe in
it.
Dr. Ibrahim Al-Khouli: Are you a heretic?
Wafa Sultan: You can say whatever you like. I am a secular human being who does not believe in the supernatural...
Dr. Ibrahim Al-Khouli: If you are a heretic, there is no point in rebuking you, since you have blasphemed against Islam, the Prophet, and the Koran...
Wafa Sultan: These are personal matters that do not concern you.
[...]
Wafa Sultan: Brother, you can believe in stones, as long as you don't throw them at me. You are free to worship whoever you want, but other people's
beliefs are not your concern, whether they believe that the Messiah is God, son of Mary, or that Satan is God, son of Mary. Let people have their
beliefs.
[...]
Wafa Sultan: The Jews have come from the tragedy (of the Holocaust), and forced the world to respect them, with their knowledge, not with their
terror, with their work, not their crying and yelling. Humanity owes most of the discoveries and science of the 19th and 20th centuries to Jewish
scientists. 15 million people, scattered throughout the world, united and won their rights through work and knowledge. We have not seen a single Jew
blow himself up in a German restaurant. We have not seen a single Jew destroy a church. We have not seen a single Jew protest by killing people. The
Muslims have turned three Buddha statues into rubble. We have not seen a single Buddhist burn down a Mosque, kill a Muslim, or burn down an embassy.
Only the Muslims defend their beliefs by burning down churches, killing people, and destroying embassies. This path will not yield any results. The
Muslims must ask themselves what they can do for humankind, before they demand that humankind respect them. |
Hmm... I suspect this woman doesn't know a whole hell of alot about different regions of the world. For instance, in Burma, a Buddhist dictatorship,
it is illegal for Muslims and Christians to have houses of worship.
Jews "won" Palestine by terrorizing the Brittish colonial presence there way back when. And they did indeed use "terrorism" against German forces in
Warsaw when they were under occupation.... very much what Palestinians are doing.
This broad would not want to get into it with me when it comes to drawing parallels between current "terrorist"/freedom fighter groups and those of
the past.
I agree that Wahhabists definitely have a primitive backwardness to them, but I cannot concede that Western culture is the antithesis to that... it's
not. I'm not sure feminists would agree with this woman regarding the status of women in this culture versus that of Wahhabists.
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Motorhead rule all. |
If I fail math, there goes my chance at a good job and a happy life full of hard work.
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That's my b-day as well.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by joemaconmovies
That's my b-day as well. |
but are you going to treat yourself to the new Motorhead?
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I've been hearing a rumor of an overseas tour with Motorhead and Clutch.
Dear god I'd love to see this tour.
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lemmy makes love to mountain lions
i fuck da sheeps
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BDx13
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MyOwnWay
I've been hearing a rumor of an overseas tour with Motorhead and Clutch.
Dear god I'd love to see this tour. |
it's almost worth the trip...
FALL 2006 U.K. TOUR
11/2/06
City Hall
Newcastle
11/3/06
OFF
OFF
11/4/06
Carling Academy
Glasgow
11/5/06
Apollo
Manchester
11/6/06
OFF
OFF
11/7/06
St. Geroge's
Bradford
11/8/06
City Hall
Sheffield
11/9/06
Academy
Birmingham
11/10/06
OFF
OFF
11/11/06
University Students Union
Cardiff
11/12/06
New Theatre
Oxford
11/13/06
De Montfort Hall
Leicester
11/14/06
OFF
OFF
11/15/06
UEA
Norwich
11/16/06
Corn Exchange
Cambridge
11/17/06
Regent Theatre
Ipswitch
11/18/06
OFF
OFF
11/19/06
Rock City
Nottingham
11/20/06
Colston Hall
Bristol
11/21/06
Pavillion
Plymouth
11/22/06
OFF
OFF
11/23/06
Guildhall
Portsmouth
11/24/06
Leas Cliff Hall
Folkestone
11/25/06
Brixton Academy
London
If I fail math, there goes my chance at a good job and a happy life full of hard work.
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