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XHonusWagnerX
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Are we part of the problem or part of the solution?
I know that I do it ALL the time, but is all the bashing of kinds wearing girls pants and white belts and eye liner etc. any different than people who
bashed on anything that was a silly 'old school' style?
T-shirt over a hoodie
X uped gardening gloves
Mike Judges chain belt
Dont get me wrong, Im not suggesting that ANYONE stop talking shit on all that crap because its really lame, Im just wondering if its just a modern
comparision of my grandmother telling my dad that The Beatles were just to damn loud!
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mike judge didn't look like a little cock sucking faggot though
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Im sure people thought that mohawks were stupid when people first started having them. I dont really see a difference here either. I try not to give
people too much shit for wearing girl pants and the like even though I think it looks stupid.
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im so removed from any sort of fashion that it dosent bother me
kids are kids
you come at the king....you best not miss
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I see what you mean, and it's a good point. But it seems back in those days they were dressing to rebel against fashion and materialism rather than
the kids today who are doing it to be fashionable. But I guess you could say dressing to rebel is a fashion statement in it's own right but it wasn't
such a parade.
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and really i dont see those kids as part of anything i know about
so why would i care?
they are not "hardcore" or whatever they think they are
what do i care?
its the same to me as people into rap or metal guys or whatever
its not my thing and they are nowhere near what im about
you come at the king....you best not miss
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| Quote: | Originally posted by moron
Im sure people thought that mohawks were stupid when people first started having them. I dont really see a difference here either. I try not to give
people too much shit for wearing girl pants and the like even though I think it looks stupid. |
When you've got a mohawk its empowering, if you've never had one, try it. I don't think I'd get the same feeling from girl-pants and white belts.
These guys are seriously more fruity than the fruits.
Well, its this place where nobody works, and the pigs don\'t give you any shit. Everyone smokes weed and gets drunk all day. Its a place where
cunts like me and you can truly take it easy and relax. Know what I mean?
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Good point Honus. The biggest difference I see is this,When I was younger and dressing "differently" to express myself I couldn't go to the local Hot
Topic to find all of my rebellious needs. It's very assembly line these days whereas back in my heyday you had a certain uniformity(even the skins and
punks of the eighties all looked alike for the time) to the look but it was all hand done and had a distinct personality to it.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Voodoobillyman
Good point Honus. The biggest difference I see is this,When I was younger and dressing "differently" to express myself I couldn't go to the local Hot
Topic to find all of my rebellious needs. It's very assembly line these days whereas back in my heyday you had a certain uniformity(even the skins and
punks of the eighties all looked alike for the time) to the look but it was all hand done and had a distinct personality to it.
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well said... the fact that ALL the stuff that these kids want to wear to "rebel" is available at any mall in America cheapens it a lot!
| Quote: | Originally posted by REV.PAULIE
HONUS-as much as i can't stand a great deal of what you really like (for my own reasons that i would never hold,nor impose,against you),YOU FUCKING
RULE!
YOU,HONUS,IS WHAT MAKES THE "EDGE" COOL.
YOUR FRIEND,
PAULIE |
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Solution. Definitely solution.
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Foot high 3-colour mohawk = rebelling
Girl pants and eyeliner = the first step to coming out of the closet, as well as looking wimpier than the Cure
‘Do you know what a love letter is? It’s a bullet from a fucking gun. Straight through your heart.’
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Seriously. If you want to wear your emotions on the outside go get a motherfuckin' tattoo.
Well, its this place where nobody works, and the pigs don\'t give you any shit. Everyone smokes weed and gets drunk all day. Its a place where
cunts like me and you can truly take it easy and relax. Know what I mean?
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Thats another thing that has gotten out of hand within the hardcore scene, tattoos. It's like kids just get sleeves to be "hardcore" looking.
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I don't know... I think we're problems just as much as they are. Nothing's worse than a bunch of bitter aging hardcore/punk dudes complaining about
the "kids these days." They cheapen what we loved and contributed to, and we walk away from it because of these kids. Like it or not we've all handed
over the reigns. Short of building a "shadow scene" it's all been taken over by long-hairs and sissies.
I'm realizing I don't even care anymore... not just about what these kids are doing with themselves and calling hardcore... but about hardcore in
general. What I loved, what my seniors in hardcore/punk loved before what I loved "ruined" it, and what these kids love that's "ruined" what we all
loved.... it's all pointless bullshit and I can put on something from any era that I dig and just jam to it. Fuck going to shows or buying most of the
new records... give me a little Cash, Merle and some Sinatra and I'm likely to have a better listening experience than even going back and trying to
rock some records I bought in the last year.
I think I'm going to go through my CDs and get rid of more than a few... stuff I don't listen to anymore, stuff that gives me a headache. That sort of
thing.
Funny too, recent additions to hardcore tend to give me a headache and make me tense... yet Judge and Breakdown are relaxing. Just all seems so damn
weird to me... I'd rather listen to the soundtracks for Crouching Tiger, Hero and House of Flying Daggers more than anything else these days anyways.
Must be all the meditation and philosophy shit I'm into...
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i'm giving up hardcore for my new years resolution for 2007
nice knowing yous
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| Quote: | Originally posted by upyerbum
Seriously. If you want to wear your emotions on the outside go get a motherfuckin' tattoo. |
Goddamit. I could not have said it better myself.
Post of the fucking year.
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A thought occurred to me. Back in the early to mid-eighties when hardcore was at its best, dudes who dressed like chicks were all listening to shit
like Wham, Culture Club, Duran Duran, etc. Faggy new wave and pop music. How did that turn into faggy looking dudes listening to shitty emo and
metalcore? 20 years ago these fruits would have gotten their asses stomped if they came to a hardcore show looking the way they do, yet these days it
seems to be a common trend. I just don't fucking get it.
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As stupid as a person dresses, it shouldn't give anybody the right to hit them because of it. That's doing the samething that the frat/jocks that
would try to gang up on a kid with a mohawk back in those times that you say are the best. You're reducing yourself to the very thing you hate. And
nothing is worse than hypocrisy.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBadVibes
im so removed from any sort of fashion that it dosent bother me
kids are kids |
^^^^^^^ true.
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I didn't say that I do such things. But remember how bad the battles were back in the 80's between skins and metalheads. I'm saying that back in
those days, if a guy came to a show dressed in eyeliner, girl pants, a white belt, and a poison shirt then it's likely he would have gotten his ass
handed to him. I'm not saying that that is necessarily a good thing, but when I see those kids being associated with hardcore I get pissed off. They
have nothing to do with hardcore music or the hardcore scene that I always associated myself with. They are a scene all to their own. Unfortunatley
the various forms of media like to lump us all together. Let's just say that I can't see Negative Approach or Black Flag playing a show with Atreyu
or Good Charlotte. I also don't see the fans of those bands going to eachothers shows. It's two different things being given the same name. That's
what bothers me.
‘Do you know what a love letter is? It’s a bullet from a fucking gun. Straight through your heart.’
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Discipline
A thought occurred to me. Back in the early to mid-eighties when hardcore was at its best, dudes who dressed like chicks were all listening to shit
like Wham, Culture Club, Duran Duran, etc. Faggy new wave and pop music. How did that turn into faggy looking dudes listening to shitty emo and
metalcore? 20 years ago these fruits would have gotten their asses stomped if they came to a hardcore show looking the way they do, yet these days it
seems to be a common trend. I just don't fucking get it. |
What about like TSOL... they wore frilly shirts and make up. Some of the Cali bands did in the early 80's.
| Quote: | Originally posted by REV.PAULIE
HONUS-as much as i can't stand a great deal of what you really like (for my own reasons that i would never hold,nor impose,against you),YOU FUCKING
RULE!
YOU,HONUS,IS WHAT MAKES THE "EDGE" COOL.
YOUR FRIEND,
PAULIE |
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Yeah I figured as much but I was just pointing out how stupid it is for people to act like fashion vigilantes.
| Quote: | Originally posted by Discipline
I didn't say that I do such things. But remember how bad the battles were back in the 80's between skins and metalheads. I'm saying that back in
those days, if a guy came to a show dressed in eyeliner, girl pants, a white belt, and a poison shirt then it's likely he would have gotten his ass
handed to him. I'm not saying that that is necessarily a good thing, but when I see those kids being associated with hardcore I get pissed off. They
have nothing to do with hardcore music or the hardcore scene that I always associated myself with. They are a scene all to their own. Unfortunatley
the various forms of media like to lump us all together. Let's just say that I can't see Negative Approach or Black Flag playing a show with Atreyu
or Good Charlotte. I also don't see the fans of those bands going to eachothers shows. It's two different things being given the same name. That's
what bothers me. |
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Wait a second. So wearing a pair of etnies, slightly baggy jeans and a normal fitting shirt is NOT cool now? Damnit.
\"Leave the gun....take the canolis.\"
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Boots, jeans, t-shirt. Thats the style I discovered when I was twelve and I've stuck with it for 23 years. Those emo kids are the same as the kids who
were raving in the 90's and glam metal dicks from the eighties. Fashion victims.
Well, its this place where nobody works, and the pigs don\'t give you any shit. Everyone smokes weed and gets drunk all day. Its a place where
cunts like me and you can truly take it easy and relax. Know what I mean?
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This should answer the question once and for all......
http://www.sailinganarchy.com/general/2002/cool_test.htm
Well, its this place where nobody works, and the pigs don\'t give you any shit. Everyone smokes weed and gets drunk all day. Its a place where
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