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[*] posted on 9-6-2007 at 07:12 PM


i can't seem to understand why everyone is pissed about the time frame thing. this is a movie/book about the first wave of hardcore. get over it. that 's always been my favorite era of hardcore, been listening to most of those bands since i was a little kid. yea there were good bands after that era, but like geoff said alot of laughable shit as well that for some reason has become legendary now. of there has been a continuation of the scene the entire time but from a general perspective it's almost universally true that most of the original wave of bands either broke up, turned into shitty metal bands, or sold out to try and "make it" (whatever the fuck that means) by '86. if you're unhappy with your favorite shitty youth crew band not being included in this documentary, make your own. that's what this has always been about to me anyways. you're pissed at the way things are? get off your ass and do something about it. at the end of the day that's what really counts.



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[*] posted on 9-6-2007 at 07:51 PM


I didn't feel anybody here was pissed off because of what era they covered. That's the shit I first got into because it was considered a classic sound. Bands like Faith, Void, Bad Brains, DK, Minor Threat, Misfits, AF, Teen Idols, Black Flag were like classic rock to me.

I'm just stating that when I came around the older fucks were kind of miserable to the new kids (and the documentary reflects that). Like we are the blame for their scene being dead. So once the old heads stop hanging it opened up the opportunely for the new kids to start bands, labels, and zines?

Also the old heads are the ones that are pissed off, didn?t you hear someone say ?The young kids are having fun while I?m old and pissed off?. It sounds like they are the ones that resent the new generations of hardcore/punk rockers because of the potential of success?

Shit doesn?t bother me, there are plenty of younger bands doing better than mine financially speaking, I play for fun not getting my own tour bus. I think it?s funny that Ian McKay is pissed off, he should be happy that so many people hold him and his bands in high regard. If I left a mark like that, I would be happy that so many people connected to my music and just respected it?




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[*] posted on 9-6-2007 at 07:55 PM


That's the shit I first got into because it was considered a classic sound. Bands like Faith, Void, Bad Brains, DK, Minor Threat, Misfits, AF, Teen Idols, Black Flag were like classic rock to me.

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[*] posted on 9-6-2007 at 07:59 PM


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Originally posted by newbreedbrian
i can't seem to understand why everyone is pissed about the time frame thing. this is a movie/book about the first wave of hardcore. get over it. that 's always been my favorite era of hardcore, been listening to most of those bands since i was a little kid. yea there were good bands after that era, but like geoff said alot of laughable shit as well that for some reason has become legendary now. of there has been a continuation of the scene the entire time but from a general perspective it's almost universally true that most of the original wave of bands either broke up, turned into shitty metal bands, or sold out to try and "make it" (whatever the fuck that means) by '86. if you're unhappy with your favorite shitty youth crew band not being included in this documentary, make your own. that's what this has always been about to me anyways. you're pissed at the way things are? get off your ass and do something about it. at the end of the day that's what really counts.


Haha. The only "youth crew" band I like is Judge.

Point is, at the end of American Hardcore these guys are griping about younger kids today and presumably in the 20 years since they let the first wave of hardcore die.

I remember jamming Minor Threat, DK, Bad Brains, AF, Warzone and all types of shit from that era because it was essential to what hardcore was, is and will always be. It just sucks to have my experience invalidated, or at least attempted to be invalidated, by a bitter 40/50 something that didn't have the gas to keep the shit alive. I came in on what could be called the last gasps of the 3rd wave of hardcore. It could be the 2nd, I don't know, but shit. Seems to me that later years there was more drive to keep things going past the 3 or 4 years people did in the "hey day."

Why are there 2nd wave bands that have been going on for well over a decade... some for two... and yet the most lauded of the old old school died so swiftly? Far as I can tell hardcore didn't stop being edgy and dangerous until Hatebreed started touring with Slayer regularly.




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