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upyerbum
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This guy was cool:
http://www.zpub.com/sf/history/bart.html
Well, its this place where nobody works, and the pigs don\'t give you any shit. Everyone smokes weed and gets drunk all day. Its a place where
cunts like me and you can truly take it easy and relax. Know what I mean?
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clevohardcore
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Siczine.com
| Quote: | Originally posted by clevohardcore
I like to see them die. I have desire to wonder what makes a child rapist tick. I would like to see them hunted for sport though.
Now if your talking thiefs? Well? That can be summed up in 3 words. GET A JOB.
Serial criminals? No need to study them either. They are fucked up and need to die as well. I mean really. Does society need people who want to kill
because they desire it?
O WAIT! Does that make me a serial killer if I want to kill all child rapists? |
That's a very short-sighted view because how can we even attempt to rehabilitate criminals if we don't study them and their behaviors. Then would
would the need be for prisons/jails/rehab? You can't just kill everyone that commits a crime. Sure some criminals are just born inheritantly violent
but most are not. |
^^^^^^^^^ Rehabilitation is the exact reason Rapists and Pedofiles get out and commit more atrocities.
THEY MUST NOT EXIST. REHAB DOES NOT WORK. THE SOONER SOCIETY AND LIBERAL DOUCHBAGS SEE THIS THE BETTER. FOR THE SAKE OF MORE VICTIMS. PLEASE SEE THIS.
Each aspect of the soul has it's own part to play, but the ideal is harmonious agreement with reason and control.
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clevohardcore
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Jason the Magnificent
I read a lot of true crime because it interests me. Maybe that makes me a sociopath, maybe it doesn't bore me. For the life of me I can't imagine what
this thread is even supposed to be about. |
^^^^^^^^^^ I'm with you on that.
Each aspect of the soul has it's own part to play, but the ideal is harmonious agreement with reason and control.
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clevohardcore
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Here I lay me down to sleep
To wait the comming morrow,
Perhaps success, perhaps defeat,
and everlasting sorrow.
Let come what will I'll try it on,
My condition can't be worse;
And if there's money in that box
’Tis munny in my purse!
^^^^^^^^ Now that is funny.
Each aspect of the soul has it's own part to play, but the ideal is harmonious agreement with reason and control.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Discipline
Criminals can be interesting to study, but they aren't cool.
To me, cool people are those who bust their ass working day in and day out to take care of themselves and their family. |
Couldn't agree more.
Support the arts, shoot a rapper.
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Siczine.com
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| Quote: | Originally posted by clevohardcore
| Quote: | Originally posted by Siczine.com
| Quote: | Originally posted by clevohardcore
I like to see them die. I have desire to wonder what makes a child rapist tick. I would like to see them hunted for sport though.
Now if your talking thiefs? Well? That can be summed up in 3 words. GET A JOB.
Serial criminals? No need to study them either. They are fucked up and need to die as well. I mean really. Does society need people who want to kill
because they desire it?
O WAIT! Does that make me a serial killer if I want to kill all child rapists? |
That's a very short-sighted view because how can we even attempt to rehabilitate criminals if we don't study them and their behaviors. Then would
would the need be for prisons/jails/rehab? You can't just kill everyone that commits a crime. Sure some criminals are just born inheritantly violent
but most are not. |
^^^^^^^^^ Rehabilitation is the exact reason Rapists and Pedofiles get out and commit more atrocities.
THEY MUST NOT EXIST. REHAB DOES NOT WORK. THE SOONER SOCIETY AND LIBERAL DOUCHBAGS SEE THIS THE BETTER. FOR THE SAKE OF MORE VICTIMS. PLEASE SEE THIS.
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It seems you only think that rapist and pedophiles are criminals. Again, very short-sighted. You're making yourself sound like a good ole boy from
Texas with statements like that I'm sorry dude but you can't throw every criminal on death row.
And regardless people must study criminals if not to rehab them but to try to prevent them from ever becoming criminals and then even furtther, to
learn and study them to be able to apprehend the criminal.
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We're all criminals. Everyone of us has downloaded some shit or jaywalked or whatever.
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Jason the Magnificent
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Boycott Christian HC
| Quote: | Originally posted by Jason the Magnificent
I can't imagine what this thread is even supposed to be about. |
I've been noticing that most hardcore kids think gangs are the coolest thing on the planet, so I thought I'd ask if anyone else disagrees with that.
Because my opinion is more like that of MM and Discipline.
| Quote: | Originally posted by metal mulisha
I have never looked up to or admired a criminal. Really at the end of the day all they are is social parasites.
MM. |
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You probably could have elaborated on that point in the first place and this whole train wreck would have made more sense.
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clevohardcore
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Siczine.com
| Quote: | Originally posted by clevohardcore
| Quote: | Originally posted by Siczine.com
| Quote: | Originally posted by clevohardcore
I like to see them die. I have desire to wonder what makes a child rapist tick. I would like to see them hunted for sport though.
Now if your talking thiefs? Well? That can be summed up in 3 words. GET A JOB.
Serial criminals? No need to study them either. They are fucked up and need to die as well. I mean really. Does society need people who want to kill
because they desire it?
O WAIT! Does that make me a serial killer if I want to kill all child rapists? |
That's a very short-sighted view because how can we even attempt to rehabilitate criminals if we don't study them and their behaviors. Then would
would the need be for prisons/jails/rehab? You can't just kill everyone that commits a crime. Sure some criminals are just born inheritantly violent
but most are not. |
^^^^^^^^^ Rehabilitation is the exact reason Rapists and Pedofiles get out and commit more atrocities.
THEY MUST NOT EXIST. REHAB DOES NOT WORK. THE SOONER SOCIETY AND LIBERAL DOUCHBAGS SEE THIS THE BETTER. FOR THE SAKE OF MORE VICTIMS. PLEASE SEE THIS.
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It seems you only think that rapist and pedophiles are criminals. Again, very short-sighted. You're making yourself sound like a good ole boy from
Texas with statements like that I'm sorry dude but you can't throw every criminal on death row.
And regardless people must study criminals if not to rehab them but to try to prevent them from ever becoming criminals and then even furtther, to
learn and study them to be able to apprehend the criminal. |
^^^^^^^^^^^^ So what are you saying about people that live in Texas? Sounds like an assumption to me.
Look, I do nto think only rapists are criminals and that the only way to do away with all criminals is death. I understand that some people are locked
up for drugs offenses and petty theft. However we are talking of serious offenses. No one admires the kid who steals the neighbors bike becasue he
wants dope money or his parnets were not effective with him. However some people do think that a serial killer or mass murder are cool. I think that
is what this thread was originally about right? No murder is cool. You learn that Dalmer was fucked up and he would do it all over again. Same with
Bundy and every single other murder. You could not fix it. And if you could you would have every other liberal douche saying your brainwashing him
into being good. Thats mind control. Your not letting him be his true person or some shit. Or maybe he would sue the medical profession saying he is
not happy being nice and he wants to be a killer again.
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gavin
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this is an interesting thread on many levels.................
first, im not big on "rehibilitation"
for drug offences or theft, sure ok
for rape and child molestation and whatnot, NO!
its not happening bottom line and i would have no problem with these people being put to death
serial killers?
never went through a "phase" with them other than manson who i am to this day interested in
do i "worship" him?
no
do i think he is a scumbag?
yes
do i continue to follow any news on him and read new books about him?
yes
why?
i have no idea
as far as gang stuff goes, ive always had an interest in it since i was a little kid
i have read tons of stuff about things from biker gangs, to mafia stuff to street gangs to prison gangs ect.
im fascinated by the stuff, what can i say?
have i ever been in a gang?
no
although i was in a "gang file" in high school, whatever that is
you come at the king....you best not miss
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JawnDiablo
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Hey MrBadVibes, did you by chance read that book called Born To Be Wild written about this Warlock dude that all took place in the area we grew up in?
It was pretty good.
It's kind of hard to come by, but I have one somewhere on my shelves...
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never heard of it
sounds cool though
you come at the king....you best not miss
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Siczine.com
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| Quote: | Originally posted by juandiablo
Hey MrBadVibes, did you by chance read that book called Born To Be Wild written about this Warlock dude that all took place in the area we grew up in?
It was pretty good.
It's kind of hard to come by, but I have one somewhere on my shelves... |
Kind of in the same vein: Hell's Angels: The Strange and Terrible Saga of the Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs by Hunter S. Thompson.
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Siczine.com
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| Quote: | Originally posted by clevohardcore
| Quote: | Originally posted by Siczine.com
| Quote: | Originally posted by clevohardcore
| Quote: | Originally posted by Siczine.com
| Quote: | Originally posted by clevohardcore
I like to see them die. I have desire to wonder what makes a child rapist tick. I would like to see them hunted for sport though.
Now if your talking thiefs? Well? That can be summed up in 3 words. GET A JOB.
Serial criminals? No need to study them either. They are fucked up and need to die as well. I mean really. Does society need people who want to kill
because they desire it?
O WAIT! Does that make me a serial killer if I want to kill all child rapists? |
That's a very short-sighted view because how can we even attempt to rehabilitate criminals if we don't study them and their behaviors. Then would
would the need be for prisons/jails/rehab? You can't just kill everyone that commits a crime. Sure some criminals are just born inheritantly violent
but most are not. |
^^^^^^^^^ Rehabilitation is the exact reason Rapists and Pedofiles get out and commit more atrocities.
THEY MUST NOT EXIST. REHAB DOES NOT WORK. THE SOONER SOCIETY AND LIBERAL DOUCHBAGS SEE THIS THE BETTER. FOR THE SAKE OF MORE VICTIMS. PLEASE SEE THIS.
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It seems you only think that rapist and pedophiles are criminals. Again, very short-sighted. You're making yourself sound like a good ole boy from
Texas with statements like that I'm sorry dude but you can't throw every criminal on death row.
And regardless people must study criminals if not to rehab them but to try to prevent them from ever becoming criminals and then even furtther, to
learn and study them to be able to apprehend the criminal. |
^^^^^^^^^^^^ So what are you saying about people that live in Texas? Sounds like an assumption to me.
Look, I do nto think only rapists are criminals and that the only way to do away with all criminals is death. I understand that some people are locked
up for drugs offenses and petty theft. However we are talking of serious offenses. No one admires the kid who steals the neighbors bike becasue he
wants dope money or his parnets were not effective with him. However some people do think that a serial killer or mass murder are cool. I think that
is what this thread was originally about right? No murder is cool. You learn that Dalmer was fucked up and he would do it all over again. Same with
Bundy and every single other murder. You could not fix it. And if you could you would have every other liberal douche saying your brainwashing him
into being good. Thats mind control. Your not letting him be his true person or some shit. Or maybe he would sue the medical profession saying he is
not happy being nice and he wants to be a killer again. |
The politicians in Texas are mostly Rep. and all are infaturated with the idea of the death penalty, after all Texas is the capital of the death
penalty isn't it?
And point blank, to say there is no reason in the least bit to study criminals of any sort is an inane statement, which you said for any criminal in
your opening statement.
And yeah obviously the whole "Clockwork of Orange" form wouldn't work but I highly doubt the criminal would have any leverage in lawsuit if he was
rehabed and killed again, maybe his/her victim but not the criminal.
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gavin
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Siczine.com
| Quote: | Originally posted by juandiablo
Hey MrBadVibes, did you by chance read that book called Born To Be Wild written about this Warlock dude that all took place in the area we grew up in?
It was pretty good.
It's kind of hard to come by, but I have one somewhere on my shelves... |
Kind of in the same vein: Hell's Angels: The Strange and Terrible Saga of the Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs by Hunter S. Thompson. |
yo read sonny bargers book
WAY better then hunters
for obvious reasons
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Siczine.com
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I'll have to track that down. You ever see the history channel special with Sonny on there?
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gavin
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yeah ive seen that show
the history channel has some killer stuff
you see the one on the aryan brotherhood in prison?
killer
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i saw that one,
there was a bunch of interesting stuff on there.
a book really worh checking out is called the Hothouse
it is a documentary on Leavanworth prison.
theres a bunch of stuff in there
i just got one called Inside Life Behind Bars in America.
dont asky why, i just find all this shit interesting
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Street gangs interest me. From skin crews, hardcore/punk crews to cholo gangs and shit. It's fascinating really. New tribalism.
I'm into subcultural shit, underworld stuff too. Wouldn't want to hero worship some of the foulest dudes on the planet, but the psychology of it all
is interesting.
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gavin
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yeah
read about that MS-13 stuff
thats shits HEAVY
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JawnDiablo
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mS-13 stuff i read of is nuts
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| Quote: | Originally posted by juandiablo
a book really worh checking out is called The Hot House |
i read that when it first came out almost 15 years ago. crazy shit.
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gavin
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| Quote: | Originally posted by juandiablo
mS-13 stuff i read of is nuts |
look em up on yputube holmes
crazy tattoos
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Rehabilitation is a crock of shit. Punishment, period. Spare the rod, spoil the child.
Whipping, public beatings/humiliation, etc. is how you deter crime. How many people would be drinking and driving if they had to walk around for a
year wearing a sign that stated their crime?
Well, its this place where nobody works, and the pigs don\'t give you any shit. Everyone smokes weed and gets drunk all day. Its a place where
cunts like me and you can truly take it easy and relax. Know what I mean?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by upyerbum
Rehabilitation is a crock of shit. Punishment, period. Spare the rod, spoil the child.
Whipping, public beatings/humiliation, etc. is how you deter crime. How many people would be drinking and driving if they had to walk around for a
year wearing a sign that stated their crime? |
I see plenty of baggy pants kids where I live sporting shirts that proclaim "Hustlaz" and shit so who knows.....
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