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the term "white trash"
rubs me the wrong way when people, esp. white people, use it
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Its even worse when someone of another race uses it.
Each aspect of the soul has it's own part to play, but the ideal is harmonious agreement with reason and control.
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gavin
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| Quote: | Originally posted by clevohardcore
Its even worse when someone of another race uses it. |
ya think?
i feel like if a black dude uses it, its just to insult
but when i hear white people say it, it feels like a whole "i'm above you" type trip
its almost like a class issue in a way
like "im above you ya white trash because i dont aprove of the lifestyle you live or the choices you make"
i dunno
im looking to deeply into it
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I've always used it to describe someone who's an ignorant piece of shit regardless of their social standing.
Support the arts, shoot a rapper.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by morgan
I've always used it to describe someone who's an ignorant piece of shit regardless of their social standing. |
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That completely eliminates the B4B albums after Revenge... Instead of lyrics they just repeat 'white trash' to infinity.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBadVibes
| Quote: | Originally posted by clevohardcore
Its even worse when someone of another race uses it. |
ya think?
i feel like if a black dude uses it, its just to insult
but when i hear white people say it, it feels like a whole "i'm above you" type trip
its almost like a class issue in a way
like "im above you ya white trash because i dont aprove of the lifestyle you live or the choices you make"
i dunno
im looking to deeply into it |
nah, I pretty much know what you are getting at and I think yer right on the money. I hear the phrase white trash being thrown around a lot more these
days, and it usually seems as a way to make ones self seem superior to the one being slandered
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Jason the Magnificent
That completely eliminates the B4B albums after Revenge... Instead of lyrics they just repeat 'white trash' to infinity. |
kind of like rap dudes calling each other niggers all the time too
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Never bothered me. I got it tattooed on me when I was about 19-20.
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gavin
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its different for one to call ones self white trash
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So it's a politically correct arguement then? Akin to blacks being "able" to drop N bombs? I'm losing you.
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Jason the Magnificent
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I'm guessing this stems from the Britney thread...is there anyone here that actually believes she is not rich white trash? It's not a socio-economical
slur, trash is trash. Rich, poor, white, black...
and you didn't specify in the OP that white people could use it on themselves without rubbing you wrong, i.e. WT Rob, you just said white people
period.
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its not an argument at all
its a thought and was asking for opinions is all
it doesnt really stem from the brittney thread but thats what made me think of it
i didnt think about white people using it on themselves until it was brought up in the thread
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I think MBV is getting at the real point... it's definitely a slur. But white trash is a weird term because it refers to different things depending
on where you're at. Seems like in cities (at least in the northeast) it definitely refers to shit poor white people. Go to the south, and it usually
refers to, well, the stereotype of white southerners (insert hick, redneck, inbred, etc here).
The BFB thing I see as being very similar to old rap groups like NWA reclaiming the word nigger... more of a "You and society treat me like shit
because I grew up in a poor white/black ghetto, but I'm not gonna hate myself because of you" type of thing. In some sense, it's reclaiming a term so
it doesn't have the same impact on you... but then people get carried away with that shit (see every rapper today).
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when you think of it. White Trash. A white person who is only valued as garbage. Pretty mean spirited if it comes from someone else.
Each aspect of the soul has it's own part to play, but the ideal is harmonious agreement with reason and control.
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well...I don't think anyone ever thought they were using it as a compliment.
if white on white slurs are out...i'm never leaving the house.
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here's a question for youz...............
if brittney was black and the exact same situations were happening with her, would you call her a nigger?
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I'd likely call her ghetto trash.
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not anywhere near the same thing. not the same ballpark or even sport.
britney is white and she is trash...two adjectives together that describe her that bear NOWHERE near the same implications as the other word.
Someone surviving in a poor living situation that works hard, accepts their responsibilites and does what they have to do, day in and day out should
have respect from anyone, white, black, rich, poor...good people are good people. Sometimes people get dealt shit hands in life...that doesn't make
them trash, that makes them unlucky and/or underprivledged.
People that wallow in self pity, shun their responsibilites to family, friends, children, work and society are a totally differen't type of person.
They can be rich, poor, purple, fat, short or emo. When you output trash, you are trash. How one can make a sensitivity arguement about the use of the
term white trash really is beyond me. I can see your point about what a stereotypical slur white trash can be...but it has nowhere NEAR the same
impact as the other word, it doesn't have the same history behind it.
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White trash is perfectly fitting for so many people. It just rolls off the tongue.
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I have found myself using the term Yuppie in a derogatory sense more than once , when the acronym suggests nothing negative (Young Urban Professional)
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Perhaps the question isn't so much using the term "white trash" but, if trash is trash... why not just call it trash. You know what I mean? Why
qualify it with a racial indentifier at all? And why does "ghetto" have to be used as a qualifier for a black person? Why people live in ghettos, so
do all types.
In a way, I'd go so far as to say that the term "white trash" is less derogatory of white people acting trashy, but towards non-white people. It's
like saying this person is "trash" but is "white" and "white" people should be better than that. You know what I'm saying?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by juandiablo
I have found myself using the term Yuppie in a derogatory sense more than once , when the acronym suggests nothing negative (Young Urban Professional)
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Done the same thing more times than I can count.
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It's all about context.
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cunts like me and you can truly take it easy and relax. Know what I mean?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Jason the Magnificent
not anywhere near the same thing. not the same ballpark or even sport.
britney is white and she is trash...two adjectives together that describe her that bear NOWHERE near the same implications as the other word.
Someone surviving in a poor living situation that works hard, accepts their responsibilites and does what they have to do, day in and day out should
have respect from anyone, white, black, rich, poor...good people are good people. Sometimes people get dealt shit hands in life...that doesn't make
them trash, that makes them unlucky and/or underprivledged.
People that wallow in self pity, shun their responsibilites to family, friends, children, work and society are a totally differen't type of person.
They can be rich, poor, purple, fat, short or emo. When you output trash, you are trash. How one can make a sensitivity arguement about the use of the
term white trash really is beyond me. I can see your point about what a stereotypical slur white trash can be...but it has nowhere NEAR the same
impact as the other word, it doesn't have the same history behind it. |
ok
this is your definition of it
do you think everyone who uses the term thinks the same way?
and again, im not arguing this stuff at all
im just asking questions getting points of view
i dont feel strongly enough about it to argue honestly
im just interested in what people think about it
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