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Fuckin' hilarious, JD.
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tireironsaint
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By the way, I'm totally down to represent you in court for plane fare and a place to crash.
I can see it now :
"Are you legally licensed to practice law in this state?"
"No your honor, I'm just an asshole who argues like a bastard on an internet messageboard frequented by the defendant."
"..............I see. Go ahead with your argument."
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Discipline
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Can I second-chair during the proceedings?
‘Do you know what a love letter is? It’s a bullet from a fucking gun. Straight through your heart.’
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better hope that judge isn't an earth crisis fan
The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, ?You know, I want to set those people over there on
fire, but I?m just not close enough to get the job done.? George Carlin
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"Has there been a progression of sorts in the sound of Hard Core? I suppose it's safe to say that, but instead of branching out and growing in a
healthy way, it's funneled down to where everything out there now sounds like yet another version of the same shit that was pretty fucking boring to
begin with. Where there used to be a highly creative and broad range of styles that were all together under one banner because of their attitude,
spirit, views, and so on, now we have endless carbon copies of the same shitty metal with lyrics about beating people down for a variety of stupid
reasons"
There are many bands that claim hardcore that sound nothing like punk/hardcore/metal bands yet no one will give them the time of the day. It seems
like a lot of old and jaded dudes seem to complain the most about how stagnant and mundane hardcore has become yet anything semi-progressive is
trashed or given the title of being post-hardcore and most of the revival bands are trashed for being carbon copies of bands from a better time, at
least in that persons eyes. I have the utmost respect for the hardcore bands of the 80's and enjoy several of them but bands like Black Flag and
Poison Idea play some of really simple, straight forward music.
And I never thought I would say this because I myself have had disagreements with Mr. Moral but I have to side with him on this.
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Discipline
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I don't think I'd ever describe Black Flag's music as simple and straight forward.
‘Do you know what a love letter is? It’s a bullet from a fucking gun. Straight through your heart.’
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Quote: | Originally posted by tireironsaint
By the way, I'm totally down to represent you in court for plane fare and a place to crash.
I can see it now :
"Are you legally licensed to practice law in this state?"
"No your honor, I'm just an asshole who argues like a bastard on an internet messageboard frequented by the defendant."
"..............I see. Go ahead with your argument." |
Ypu'd be more than qualified in the courts in this town....trust me
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Quote: | Originally posted by Discipline
Can I second-chair during the proceedings? |
hell
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tireironsaint
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Quote: | Originally posted by Siczine.com
"Has there been a progression of sorts in the sound of Hard Core? I suppose it's safe to say that, but instead of branching out and growing in a
healthy way, it's funneled down to where everything out there now sounds like yet another version of the same shit that was pretty fucking boring to
begin with. Where there used to be a highly creative and broad range of styles that were all together under one banner because of their attitude,
spirit, views, and so on, now we have endless carbon copies of the same shitty metal with lyrics about beating people down for a variety of stupid
reasons"
There are many bands that claim hardcore that sound nothing like punk/hardcore/metal bands yet no one will give them the time of the day. It seems
like a lot of old and jaded dudes seem to complain the most about how stagnant and mundane hardcore has become yet anything semi-progressive is
trashed or given the title of being post-hardcore and most of the revival bands are trashed for being carbon copies of bands from a better time, at
least in that persons eyes. I have the utmost respect for the hardcore bands of the 80's and enjoy several of them but bands like Black Flag and
Poison Idea play some of really simple, straight forward music.
And I never thought I would say this because I myself have had disagreements with Mr. Moral but I have to side with him on this.
| Number one, I listen to such a wide variety of music that for someone to basically say I'm narrow minded and
only dig the stuff from a certain era with a certain sound is fucking ridiculous. I'm all for bands that branch out of the mold, but like I said
before, that's not being done much these days by bands that go under the banner of Hard Core. Number two, I don't know what Black Flag and Poison Idea
you've listened to, but both of those bands have a very wide array of sounds under their belts, especially Poison Idea. I find it hilarious that you
pinpoint them as an example of a generic sound when they've been bashed over and over for exactly the kind of experimenting and broadening of scope
that you were accusing others of doing.
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tireironsaint
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And before it's brought up, no, I don't consider bands who claim to be Hard Core yet actually play some shitty form of metal mixed with gangster rap
to be any kind of progression.
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Siczine.com
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Quote: | Originally posted by tireironsaint
And before it's brought up, no, I don't consider bands who claim to be Hard Core yet actually play some shitty form of metal mixed with gangster rap
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I enjoy some E Town Concrete (though I wouldn't call the rap moments gangster).
And yeah, you're right, those two bands weren't exactly the best choices (though I still think Black Flag was simple on Slip It In).
I should've just said, you seem like the type who automatically hates on a band because they weren't around during your 'period'. You seem to hate on
90% of the bands that have come out in the nineties or later.
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Quote: | Originally posted by newbreedbrian
better hope that judge isn't an earth crisis fan |
See, I'm in Philly so JD should probably have me there just in case the judge does like EC. Haha
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Quote: | Originally posted by tireironsaint
And before it's brought up, no, I don't consider bands who claim to be Hard Core yet actually play some shitty form of metal mixed with gangster rap
to be any kind of progression. |
If that was even half of what I liked I think you might have a point. Probably the only band that I listen to that meets that description in your book
is Madball... and when I think shitty metal mixed with gangster rap I think Skarhead. Then again, I think you can see alot of gangster rap type stuff
in Blood For Blood and I'm sure you'd disagree.
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tireironsaint
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Quote: | Originally posted by Siczine.com
I should've just said, you seem like the type who automatically hates on a band because they weren't around during your 'period'. You seem to hate on
90% of the bands that have come out in the nineties or later. |
That's not because of when they came out though, that's just because 90% of the bands from that time period suck shit through a straw.
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tireironsaint
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Quote: | Originally posted by DaveMoral
Quote: | Originally posted by tireironsaint
And before it's brought up, no, I don't consider bands who claim to be Hard Core yet actually play some shitty form of metal mixed with gangster rap
to be any kind of progression. |
If that was even half of what I liked I think you might have a point. Probably the only band that I listen to that meets that description in your book
is Madball... and when I think shitty metal mixed with gangster rap I think Skarhead. Then again, I think you can see alot of gangster rap type stuff
in Blood For Blood and I'm sure you'd disagree. | That wasn't directed at you at all, Dave. It was meant as
an added comment towards Siczine.
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Siczine.com
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mmm Madball and Skarhead.
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Quote: | Originally posted by tireironsaint
Quote: | Originally posted by Siczine.com
I should've just said, you seem like the type who automatically hates on a band because they weren't around during your 'period'. You seem to hate on
90% of the bands that have come out in the nineties or later. |
That's not because of when they came out though, that's just because 90% of the bands from that time period suck shit through a straw.
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Haha, that's such a gross thing to visualize...
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