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[*] posted on 5-15-2008 at 07:33 PM


i'm on nothing, but have considered the option.

i definitely have my ups and downs, but reading this thread has me a bit spooked.
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[*] posted on 5-15-2008 at 09:24 PM


Seems I'm with the minority group here, no meds.



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[*] posted on 5-15-2008 at 09:26 PM


I don't take shit. Probalby should have, but never have. All I know is that life is tough for everyone this day in age. Honestly, it is really hard to be happy. But when it happens you do everything you can to never let it go or at the very least remember it.

Even though life is really fucking hard and a downer, it is there for you to live it. It is what it is and it is there for you to make what you can with it. I aint preaching at all and I aint nobody important, all I am only saying is what I tell myself sometimes. Don't give up. All you guys and gals are good peoples.




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[*] posted on 5-15-2008 at 09:28 PM


Watch FLETCH or FLETCH LIVES. You'll feel better.

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[*] posted on 5-15-2008 at 09:43 PM


The main reason I stay on the meds is to control my temper. I have severe anger management issues, and some severely violent tendancies. Basically, the pills keep me from losing it and killing somebody, which keeps me out of jail.



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[*] posted on 5-15-2008 at 10:04 PM


A few years back I was on Celexa (if I remember correctly) and it seemed alright until I had been on it for a while and then had to go without for a couple weeks. Every day I was off of it my anger got worse and worse until it was a constant rage that had me ready to kill anyone and everyone I came into contact with. I talked to my doctor and was told that I should stay away from that shit completely and maybe look into something else on down the road. Part of the reason I was taking the meds to begin with was for anger issues, so to see that come back in an ultra-mega-mutated form just from being off them again for a short time was pretty fucking scary. I was diagnosed with long term depression with occasional spikes of extreme depression in conjunction with anger issues on top of an addictive personality when I got on that shit and I had actually gone in to have myself locked up to keep from killing myself not long before I started seeing that doctor. I'm really really glad that my head had cleared enough by the time I was screened at the hospital for them to realize I was no longer a threat to myself because I really think being locked up would have been a very bad thing for me. Anyway, a month or two later I found a very cool doctor who hooked up services on the cheap and was very understanding and helpful for my situation. She prescribed the meds and like I said, they seemed to work pretty well up until I had to go off them for what was supposed to be a short time. With that kind of backlash from them I decided it was in the best interest of me and everyone around me to clear that completely out of my system and I have been much better ever since. Sure, I have the occasional spike of depression or anger, but I've learned to deal with it much better and haven't ever tried any other meds.

I did really enjoy the sexual side effect of that one because I could go for literally hours before finishing off with a massive explosion that left me feeling happy for days. My doc said that was the strongest reaction in that particular area that she had ever heard of, but that she thought it was probably a pretty damn nice addition to the anti-depressant result.




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[*] posted on 5-15-2008 at 10:25 PM


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I don't take shit. Probalby should have, but never have. All I know is that life is tough for everyone this day in age. Honestly, it is really hard to be happy. But when it happens you do everything you can to never let it go or at the very least remember it.

Even though life is really fucking hard and a downer, it is there for you to live it. It is what it is and it is there for you to make what you can with it. I aint preaching at all and I aint nobody important, all I am only saying is what I tell myself sometimes. Don't give up. All you guys and gals are good peoples.




i hear what you're saying here
but.............

being real deal depressed is not something that can be changed by having a better outlook on things
believe me i wish it could
its inbedded in your head
its in your heart and in your guts
you cant think it better
its in some peoples make up
a chemical thing

im one of these people
i wish there was a better way for me to deal with these things because overall im very anti-medication
i take next to nothing other than something for a heaache now and then

im not lashing out at you by any means
im happy for you that you were able to feel better and deal with things in such a positive way
just try to undersatnd some people, myself for one, can not control these things

its a real deal sickness
or so i have heard




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[*] posted on 5-16-2008 at 07:20 AM


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its a real deal sickness
or so i have heard


It certainly is. And not to be taken lightly. I actually had a very similiar situation to Saints. I had a very bad experience with the meds I was on. I quite nearly lost my mind. I actually ended up going to see a psychologist, it was gay as hell, but she helped me out with some good advice, and I slowly and sometimes painfully made small changes in some of my daily habits, I still struggle, but overall I'm much better. Clinical depression is a very serious thing, and different things work for different people. I totally understand when you say its in your head and heart, I also totally understand not wanting to take meds every day. The psychologist route helped me a lot.




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[*] posted on 5-16-2008 at 09:31 AM


It just dawned on me that I told a bunch of strangers that I am on medication and have been for years...who says HC isn't family?



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[*] posted on 5-16-2008 at 09:57 AM


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I don't take shit. Probalby should have, but never have. All I know is that life is tough for everyone this day in age. Honestly, it is really hard to be happy. But when it happens you do everything you can to never let it go or at the very least remember it.

Even though life is really fucking hard and a downer, it is there for you to live it. It is what it is and it is there for you to make what you can with it. I aint preaching at all and I aint nobody important, all I am only saying is what I tell myself sometimes. Don't give up. All you guys and gals are good peoples.




i hear what you're saying here
but.............

being real deal depressed is not something that can be changed by having a better outlook on things
believe me i wish it could
its inbedded in your head
its in your heart and in your guts
you cant think it better
its in some peoples make up
a chemical thing

im one of these people
i wish there was a better way for me to deal with these things because overall im very anti-medication
i take next to nothing other than something for a heaache now and then

im not lashing out at you by any means
im happy for you that you were able to feel better and deal with things in such a positive way
just try to undersatnd some people, myself for one, can not control these things

its a real deal sickness
or so i have heard











^^^^ Dude, its all good. I am not saying I don't have issues because I do and I think everyone does but things effect them differently. I have been through some bad shit in my life like most have but its all in how you are wired I guess. What I meant to say is don't give up. Do what you got to do. If meds are it then don't stop. Do whateverit takes to help the fight of living life. Its tough all over and for everyone.




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[*] posted on 5-16-2008 at 02:27 PM


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A few years back I was on Celexa (if I remember correctly) and it seemed alright until I had been on it for a while and then had to go without for a couple weeks. Every day I was off of it my anger got worse and worse until it was a constant rage that had me ready to kill anyone and everyone I came into contact with. I talked to my doctor and was told that I should stay away from that shit completely and maybe look into something else on down the road. Part of the reason I was taking the meds to begin with was for anger issues, so to see that come back in an ultra-mega-mutated form just from being off them again for a short time was pretty fucking scary. I was diagnosed with long term depression with occasional spikes of extreme depression in conjunction with anger issues on top of an addictive personality when I got on that shit and I had actually gone in to have myself locked up to keep from killing myself not long before I started seeing that doctor. I'm really really glad that my head had cleared enough by the time I was screened at the hospital for them to realize I was no longer a threat to myself because I really think being locked up would have been a very bad thing for me. Anyway, a month or two later I found a very cool doctor who hooked up services on the cheap and was very understanding and helpful for my situation. She prescribed the meds and like I said, they seemed to work pretty well up until I had to go off them for what was supposed to be a short time. With that kind of backlash from them I decided it was in the best interest of me and everyone around me to clear that completely out of my system and I have been much better ever since. Sure, I have the occasional spike of depression or anger, but I've learned to deal with it much better and haven't ever tried any other meds.

I did really enjoy the sexual side effect of that one because I could go for literally hours before finishing off with a massive explosion that left me feeling happy for days. My doc said that was the strongest reaction in that particular area that she had ever heard of, but that she thought it was probably a pretty damn nice addition to the anti-depressant result.


I had the same problem the first time I came off the meds. You're supposed to ween yourself off with lower andlower doses as opposed to stopping cold turkey. I stopped cold turkey because I was out of money and I went crazy. I would attack people on the street if they looked at me funny or said something to me. I walked into my doctor's office one day with blood on my hands because I beat up a couple of smartass teenagers in the parking lot for saying something about the shirt I was wearing. When I explained to my doctor what happened he gave six months worth of free samples to get me back on as soon as possible. I tried coming off them (properly) another time and was okay for a few months, but then the depression, anger, and suicidal thoughts came back full strength and I wasn't able to function on a daily basis and was borderline agoraphobic, so my doctor put me back on them. I still have a lot of problems but the meds take the edge of and help me try to stay level-headed.

The sexual side effects are definitely awesome.:smilegrin:




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[*] posted on 5-16-2008 at 03:24 PM


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A few years back I was on Celexa (if I remember correctly) and it seemed alright until I had been on it for a while and then had to go without for a couple weeks. Every day I was off of it my anger got worse and worse until it was a constant rage that had me ready to kill anyone and everyone I came into contact with. I talked to my doctor and was told that I should stay away from that shit completely and maybe look into something else on down the road. Part of the reason I was taking the meds to begin with was for anger issues, so to see that come back in an ultra-mega-mutated form just from being off them again for a short time was pretty fucking scary. I was diagnosed with long term depression with occasional spikes of extreme depression in conjunction with anger issues on top of an addictive personality when I got on that shit and I had actually gone in to have myself locked up to keep from killing myself not long before I started seeing that doctor. I'm really really glad that my head had cleared enough by the time I was screened at the hospital for them to realize I was no longer a threat to myself because I really think being locked up would have been a very bad thing for me. Anyway, a month or two later I found a very cool doctor who hooked up services on the cheap and was very understanding and helpful for my situation. She prescribed the meds and like I said, they seemed to work pretty well up until I had to go off them for what was supposed to be a short time. With that kind of backlash from them I decided it was in the best interest of me and everyone around me to clear that completely out of my system and I have been much better ever since. Sure, I have the occasional spike of depression or anger, but I've learned to deal with it much better and haven't ever tried any other meds.

I did really enjoy the sexual side effect of that one because I could go for literally hours before finishing off with a massive explosion that left me feeling happy for days. My doc said that was the strongest reaction in that particular area that she had ever heard of, but that she thought it was probably a pretty damn nice addition to the anti-depressant result.


I had the same problem the first time I came off the meds. You're supposed to ween yourself off with lower andlower doses as opposed to stopping cold turkey. I stopped cold turkey because I was out of money and I went crazy. I would attack people on the street if they looked at me funny or said something to me. I walked into my doctor's office one day with blood on my hands because I beat up a couple of smartass teenagers in the parking lot for saying something about the shirt I was wearing. When I explained to my doctor what happened he gave six months worth of free samples to get me back on as soon as possible. I tried coming off them (properly) another time and was okay for a few months, but then the depression, anger, and suicidal thoughts came back full strength and I wasn't able to function on a daily basis and was borderline agoraphobic, so my doctor put me back on them. I still have a lot of problems but the meds take the edge of and help me try to stay level-headed.

The sexual side effects are definitely awesome.:smilegrin:
Yeah, I actually tried to wean myself off of them when that shit happened because I had been told that under no circumstances should I just go from full strength to nothing, but the effects were still that bad. I can't imagine how much worse it could have been had I just gone cold turkey. I was literally walking around in my every waking moment totally enraged and seeing everything through that red haze that comes along with the throbbing blood pounding in my temples when I'm that pissed off. What was really difficult about it for me was that I somehow didn't even put it together with being off the meds as the cause of it. My thoughts were so clouded by anger that it never even crossed my mind that it could have anything to do with that.



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[*] posted on 5-16-2008 at 04:34 PM


Been there and it fucking sucked. Unfortunately I think I'll be stuck on these things forever.



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[*] posted on 5-16-2008 at 08:39 PM


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It just dawned on me that I told a bunch of strangers that I am on medication and have been for years...who says HC isn't family?


hahahaa... shit like that definitely seems to happen on this board.





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It just dawned on me that I told a bunch of strangers that I am on medication and have been for years...who says HC isn't family?


hahahaa... shit like that definitely seems to happen on this board.









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[*] posted on 5-17-2008 at 02:19 AM


MrBadVibes, I forgot who I was talkin' to for a minute, and i forgot something that saves my soul everytime I get behind a microphone....start another band.



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[*] posted on 5-17-2008 at 03:43 AM


I probably should be medicated the fuck out. But on top of being a miserable cunt I'm hard headed as fuck so 9 times out of 10 I won't let myself get help. I hope you are able to get the help you need Badvibes.



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[*] posted on 5-17-2008 at 02:39 PM


Effexor turned my mom into an emotionless zombie, but I get her up on that PMA as much as possible. Now if I could only get her to excercise and start eating healthy.
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[*] posted on 5-17-2008 at 08:27 PM


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It just dawned on me that I told a bunch of strangers that I am on medication and have been for years...who says HC isn't family?


i rarely tell anyone about this depression and disability shit. if i do, i don't really go into much detail. thanks everyone for your concern. if you ever wonder why i disappear from this board it's usually due to the depression. the only reason i'm on any medication is to stop my tremors and so i don't have seizures. i think the depression is mainly from the disability but i think i have some depression issues. weed or booze usually helps if i'm feeling a little down.

yah, mark, they can't diagnose it. i've had this since like '99 and they are stumped as fuck. my slut of an ex broke up with me for it. it's also caused anger issues cause i get pissed off a lot and want a change of life but still live at home.

holy shit, i'm telling you all a lot of stuff i try and keep to myself.




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[*] posted on 5-17-2008 at 08:31 PM


actually, another thing that helps block the depression is my doing videos. that usually gets my mind off of it.



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