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[*] posted on 6-13-2008 at 01:44 PM


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I'd put Iggy Pop in there.
That's just me though.
Iggy's pretty hardcore as per definitionof hard core




agreed
same with charlie harper




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[*] posted on 6-13-2008 at 03:53 PM


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it should be the whole thing as one thing.
it gets too weird when someone says hardcore.
cuz like alot of people think hatebreed is hardcore and to me it sounds like shitty shitty metal with some baseball hat wearing jock screaming over it.

so thats why im thinking as a whole as opposed to splitting it up into classifications

i have no beef with dkm being in
i wouldnt put them there but im cool with it if they are


Exactly. Despite the ridiculous number of sub-genres there are these days, at the end of the day it all comes from punk. The Pistols, Clash, and Ramones influenced all of the bands that started hardcore. Interview any of the old school guys like Brannon and they'll tell you the same thing. Oi ain't hardcore, but there's a lot of guys/bands I'd add to this list.

Bruisers
Business
Anti-Heros
Cock Sparrer
Cockney Rejects
Sham 69
Last Resort

to name a few.




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[*] posted on 6-13-2008 at 04:30 PM


There's the guys that started it, but there's also the guys who keep it going. You could break it into decades. And personally I think anybody who's out there bustin' their ass for little to no money deserves a tip of the hat. I'm sure we could come up with a list of 52 people from every scene and every era. And I can't believe nobodhy's mentioned GG, none more hardcore than GG.



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[*] posted on 6-13-2008 at 04:34 PM


Let us not forget the fairer sex:

Penelope Houston
Wendy O'Williams
Becky Bondage
Polly Styrene




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[*] posted on 6-13-2008 at 04:39 PM


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[*] posted on 6-13-2008 at 04:50 PM


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Originally posted by MrBadVibes

johnny rotten
joe strummer
johnny, deedee and joey ramone
lemmy
stiv
darby crash
john doe and exene from X
keith morris
greg ginn
chuck dukowski
henry rollins
ian mccaye
john brannon
tesco
biafra
h.r.
roger and stigma
harley and john
danzig
wattie
lee ving
jerry a and pig from poison idea
paul bearer
jimmy from sham 69
jimmy g.
ray from warzone
choke


I agree with them all... just curious, why no Marky Ramone?


Here are some other good possibilities....

Wendy O. Williams (I know someone else said her too)
Rob Lind
Iggy Pop (even though I'm not a big fan)
G.G. Allin
Kevin Seconds
Mike Muir
Pepper Keenan
Walter Schreifels
Dave Smalley
Milo Aukerman




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[*] posted on 6-13-2008 at 06:51 PM


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Originally posted by MrBadVibes
it should be the whole thing as one thing.
it gets too weird when someone says hardcore.
cuz like alot of people think hatebreed is hardcore and to me it sounds like shitty shitty metal with some baseball hat wearing jock screaming over it.

so thats why im thinking as a whole as opposed to splitting it up into classifications

This could have come right outta my mouth. I get into the arguments about genres and such and younger kids accuse me of sticking too much to the definitions of it that I have, but I see it as them doing that from the other side of the issue and while I exclude bands like Hatebreed and all that garbage, they exclude bands like DKs or Big Boys because it doesn't fit their idea of the proper sound.




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[*] posted on 6-13-2008 at 07:52 PM


tommy ramone before marky ramone because tommy created the drumming style



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[*] posted on 6-13-2008 at 09:11 PM


this is such a rough question for me because:

1. I am not much for guru/people worship...you are a legend when the music "hits" you..therefore anyone can be a legend...that is what is cool about hardcore

2. The spirit of hardcore music, in my opinion, is traceable right back to the roots of black music in america...should we give son house some respects on this jawn?!?

i swear i am not trying to be a dick......this is a hard question.
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